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wilsnunn Apr 9, 2021 8:58 am


Originally Posted by bluemoon68 (Post 33164211)
Is the GP rejection because Mrs Wilsnunn is on maternity leave and therefore doesn't qualify as a health care worker? That seems odd as health care workers are listed in one of the high categories and I am surprised that the GPs are not more supportive. Are you speaking to a GP at the surgery, or being fobbed off before that point. Maybe an email would work?
I'm also surprised the online booking system won't allow her to book in, if necessary click the category nearest appropriate eg carer. When you get to the centre the registration system prompts to ask for evidence, a recent payslip or official ID would be accepted. Provided you have that, I can't see a problem at all. I would plan a day out to Stevenage, if the hospital can't guarantee a slot, there is a genuinely large mass vac centre at Robertson House, Stevenage. I would guess a doctor registered at the nearby hospital would be accommodated.

The GP surgery simply said "we are only offering vaccination appointments for over 50s, regardless of whether you are a doctor or not" she is getting rejected by the GP surgery receptionists. We tried emailing the surgery and the result was the same.

When I use the web booking system (here: https://www.nhs.uk/book-a-coronaviru...our-nhs-number) we enter Mrs Wilsnunn's NHS number and DOB and then the following message appears:

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Which I assume means that somewhere along she has been allocated a vaccine at the hospital hub, but as we were away and she is on maternity leave, she never found out about this booking.

Looks like we will just have to plan a day trip to the "slums" of Stevenage and give it a try!

corporate-wage-slave Apr 9, 2021 9:13 am


Originally Posted by wilsnunn (Post 33164814)
Which I assume means that somewhere along she has been allocated a vaccine at the hospital hub, but as we were away and she is on maternity leave, she never found out about this booking.

I agree that the GP has got this wrong, though the healthcare issue is of course more relevant to those working at the moment. I suspect they made up a rule there. But the message above suggests indeed the hospital was allocating the vaccine and what is more allocated Pfizer to your wife, hence they couldn't do any more on the national system. I think a trip to sunny Stevenage is in order, it's only a minor inconvenience given the more fundamental shortage of vaccines. We've had expats flying home from all over the world for their vaccines.

Schwann Apr 9, 2021 9:37 am


Originally Posted by wilsnunn (Post 33164814)
The GP surgery simply said "we are only offering vaccination appointments for over 50s, regardless of whether you are a doctor or not" she is getting rejected by the GP surgery receptionists. We tried emailing the surgery and the result was the same.

When I use the web booking system (here: https://www.nhs.uk/book-a-coronaviru...our-nhs-number) we enter Mrs Wilsnunn's NHS number and DOB and then the following message appears:



Which I assume means that somewhere along she has been allocated a vaccine at the hospital hub, but as we were away and she is on maternity leave, she never found out about this booking.

Looks like we will just have to plan a day trip to the "slums" of Stevenage and give it a try!


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33164862)
I agree that the GP has got this wrong, though the healthcare issue is of course more relevant to those working at the moment. I suspect they made up a rule there. But the message above suggests indeed the hospital was allocating the vaccine and what is more allocated Pfizer to your wife, hence they couldn't do any more on the national system. I think a trip to sunny Stevenage is in order, it's only a minor inconvenience given the more fundamental shortage of vaccines. We've had expats flying home from all over the world for their vaccines.

This seems to be the generic message for anyone under 30 who tries to book through the online service now. It's what appears for me since they announced the changes for under 30s.

I may be mistaken though.

DaveS Apr 9, 2021 9:46 am

Some case data and a data revision affecting previous cases today:

Cases 3,150 (3,402 last Friday)
Deaths 60 (52)
Patients admitted 233 (250 on the 29th)
Patients in hospital 3,005 (3,735 on the 31st)
Patients on ventilation 421 (517 on the 1st)

The data revision means they have removed 8,010 LFT cases where a subsequent negative PCR was found within 3 days. I was under the impression that was done anyway, but apparently not. It also means that the number of cases today is not correct. Explanation here.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 9, 2021 10:22 am


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33164946)
The data revision means they have removed 8,010 LFT cases where a subsequent negative PCR was found within 3 days. I was under the impression that was done anyway, but apparently not. It also means that the number of cases today is not correct. Explanation here.

Indeed there has been some difficulties with this process, and it's apparently only working today. The original idea was as now implemented, then there was push back on children doing PCRs after LFD tests, thinking there would be a lot of it and parents needing time off work etc. So they came up with this supervision of LFD tests to deal with that, but then decided it was only worth doing for 2 weeks. In the mean time it turned out there wasn't so many positives, and therefore False Positives were bearing up the stats. So we're back to PCRs to confirm LFDs, and reinstating something to reverse back LFDs. Which explains why those submitting LFD results online now have a few questions to answer so that the rollback can happen. The national figure is still correct, the local and regional figures won't be sensible for today.

Anyway. good news on the 7 day rate per 100k, that's now fallen below the 30 level to 29.65 per 100k. 14 day rate is 73.39 per 100k. basically the same level as mid September 2020. There are now just 2 places in the UK over 100 per 100k, Barnsley which is recorded as 104.9 but has just dipped below 100 in more recent data; and Clackmannanshire, on 211.5. The rest of the UK is now all below 100 and some big counties such as Devon, Cornwall, Essex are close to, or below, 10. Even places like Southwark, Lewisham and Lambeth are below 15 cases per 100k.

DYKWIA Apr 9, 2021 10:46 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33165031)
Anyway. good news on the 7 day rate per 100k, that's now fallen below the 30 level to 29.65 per 100k. 14 day rate is 73.39 per 100k. basically the same level as mid September 2020. There are now just 2 places in the UK over 100 per 100k, Barnsley which is recorded as 104.9 but has just dipped below 100 in more recent data; and Clackmannanshire, on 211.5. The rest of the UK is now all below 100 and some big counties such as Devon, Cornwall, Essex are close to, or below, 10. Even places like Southwark, Lewisham and Lambeth are below 15 cases per 100k.

OPEN THE PUBS NOW!!!

*It's going to be bloody cold on Monday

alex67500 Apr 9, 2021 11:06 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 33165095)
OPEN THE PUBS NOW!!!

*It's going to be bloody cold on Monday

With any luck it'll be raining up and down the country, but I won't let it deter me, I'll bring a brolly :p

James91 Apr 9, 2021 7:04 pm

I had my first vaccine back in Feb - I may need to travel for work at the end of the month and miss my vaccine appointment for #2. Is there any scope for moving it forwards to have it sooner? Potential issue is that I'm 29 and I had AZ (2 serious underlying health issues).

corporate-wage-slave Apr 10, 2021 12:01 am


Originally Posted by James91 (Post 33166164)
I had my first vaccine back in Feb - I may need to travel for work at the end of the month and miss my vaccine appointment for #2. Is there any scope for moving it forwards to have it sooner? Potential issue is that I'm 29 and I had AZ (2 serious underlying health issues).

At a GP led surgery it should be possible, once you are past about 8 weeks. What I guess it depends on is the reception staff preparing the lists so if they say no on the telephone you may need to send an email in explaining the timings. Mostly we are doing vaccines to younger CEVs, but I'm guessing a few Underlyings are getting jabs2 at the moment.

With AZ I wouldn't worry too much if you go a bit beyond 12 weeks. The protocol is that you should then vaccinated with AZ at the first opportunity but that your course of vaccination is then comoplete and you don't need to do anything else at that point. It's definitely not a failure of process if you do this.

bluemoon68 Apr 10, 2021 12:14 am


Originally Posted by James91 (Post 33166164)
I had my first vaccine back in Feb - I may need to travel for work at the end of the month and miss my vaccine appointment for #2. Is there any scope for moving it forwards to have it sooner? Potential issue is that I'm 29 and I had AZ (2 serious underlying health issues).

2nd dose of AZ for anyone under 30 who didn't have clots as a result of the 1st dose is within the rules as they stand at the moment. Getting your vaccine ahead of schedule will be a challenge. Online booking won't work and I doubt 119 could help, so its a plea to your GP or GP led clinic.

Dan1113 Apr 10, 2021 2:41 am

Struck gold and my vaccine is in an hour but feeling nervous about it being AZ to be honest, especially with my genetic test thing showing the thrombophilia. I want to bring it up but am scared they'll say we don't have any Pfizer here today so to be safe you're walking away with nothing until you speak to your GP about this. So not sure what to say/ask, if anything at all.

Also will be away in three months' time so also need my second dose a bit sooner than it would be otherwise so I feel I have a lot of requests for today!

DaveS Apr 10, 2021 2:53 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33166693)
Struck gold and my vaccine is in an hour but feeling nervous about it being AZ to be honest, especially with my genetic test thing showing the thrombophilia. I want to bring it up but am scared they'll say we don't have any Pfizer here today so to be safe you're walking away with nothing until you speak to your GP about this. So not sure what to say/ask, if anything at all.

Also will be away in three months' time so also need my second dose a bit sooner than it would be otherwise so I feel I have a lot of requests for today!

Don't worry - you'll be fine:) I know it is easy to say, but play the odds and watch out for buses on the way to the vaccination centre.

plunet Apr 10, 2021 3:29 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33166693)
Struck gold and my vaccine is in an hour but feeling nervous about it being AZ to be honest, especially with my genetic test thing showing the thrombophilia. I want to bring it up but am scared they'll say we don't have any Pfizer here today so to be safe you're walking away with nothing until you speak to your GP about this. So not sure what to say/ask, if anything at all.

I have heard several doctors and knowledgeable people interviewed about the potential clots and they are apparently very treatable if you seek help based upon symptoms. Obviously better that they didn't happen at all but it seems that for those who have sadly lost their lives it seems that several maybe didn't survive because they didn't seek help or were misdiagnosed because the symptoms and initial tests patients present with are unusual and were maybe not really recognised until the past week.

Hope it goes well for you.

squawk Apr 10, 2021 3:48 am

Yes, I agree with plunet - see further up the thread where the MHRA signs to watch for have been posted by corporate-wage-slave.

The chance of anything untoward happening is incredibly low, so I would absolutely be confident getting the jab. Have some vigilance for remote possibility of those symptoms occurring and, if they do, seek medical help.

The person consenting you to the vaccine should explain all of this as part of the consent process. Hope it all goes well Dan1113!

ahmetdouas Apr 10, 2021 4:09 am

Got my rapid tests today 1 day after ordering them on gov.uk, let's see if I will ever need to use them for something! Thought it would be a good idea to keep the pack of 7 at home in case I need it for traveling etc.


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