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MoreMilesPlease Apr 10, 2021 8:59 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33167086)
cws, do you know how places are doing it when someone comes that has to answer yes to having had allergic reactions to things? A friend of mine is allergic to a few things and some unknown things, so he is curious if the system will already know this or if he has a chance of being turned away when he gets his appt and says 'yes' to those questions.


It depends on the type of allergy. You will fill out a form and be asked about allergies and reactions. Unless you are being given the vaccine at your local GP office who already know your medical history then the vaccination team won't know before you arrive about your medical history. If they have ever had an anaphylactic reaction I don't think they will be given the vaccine. Everyone should be vetted prior to getting the jab.

MoreMilesPlease Apr 10, 2021 9:13 am


Originally Posted by ahmetdouas (Post 33166767)
Got my rapid tests today 1 day after ordering them on gov.uk, let's see if I will ever need to use them for something! Thought it would be a good idea to keep the pack of 7 at home in case I need it for traveling etc.


The free NHS tests cannot be used for international travel. For within the UK I don't think you need to show a negative test.

KARFA Apr 10, 2021 9:23 am


Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease (Post 33167160)
The free NHS tests cannot be used for international travel. For within the UK I don't think you need to show a negative test.

I believe the plan - albeit not yet confirmed - is they would be usable for your pre-arrival test coming to the UK.

Dan1113 Apr 10, 2021 9:25 am


Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease (Post 33167140)
It depends on the type of allergy. You will fill out a form and be asked about allergies and reactions. Unless you are being given the vaccine at your local GP office who already know your medical history then the vaccination team won't know before you arrive about your medical history. If they have ever had an anaphylactic reaction I don't think they will be given the vaccine. Everyone should be vetted prior to getting the jab.

Yeah, they have had an anaphylactic reaction once, but they don't actually know what it was to. I know in Scotland there have been special allergy clinics with people monitoring, but I don't know if people with a record of allergies get called to those or whether they will just be turned away when they go get their jab.

Fyi, found this


Following close national surveillance, the MHRA is no longer advising that individuals with a history of anaphylaxis to any vaccine, medicine or food do not get the vaccine. Anyone with a previous history of allergic reactions to the ingredients of the vaccine should not receive it, but those with any other allergies (such as a food allergy) can now have the vaccine.

squawk Apr 10, 2021 9:46 am

This afternoon I was lucky enough to get my first shot of vaccine (AZ) as an end-of-day 'extra' at one of the GP-led hubs in the North East. Thank you to those in this thread, such as corporate-wage-slave who suggested this might be a worthwhile strategy!

A few observations, which I hope will serve as an encouragement to anyone on the fence about vaccination or AZ specifically:
  • The process is slick: plenty of volunteers showing you where you need to go, give you a squirt of disinfectant gel, supply masks to anyone who has forgotten them, etc.
  • Once in the building itself it is very much a (friendly and welcoming) production line: you pass through several 'stations': an initial check in desk where your name is checked against a list, then someone who double-checks your details and fills in most of a form. Then you get consented (in my case it was by a nurse), and then the jab itself. Everyone I spoke to was very friendly and helpful, and from what I could see, time was taken with people who were old or infirm to ensure they were comfortable. There are separate entrances and exits, so you pass through the building one way - again, increasing throughput. One of the volunteers I chatted to while waiting said they had 1500 booked in but with people on reserve lists being invited as well (e.g. due to a particular vulnerability) the centre had likely done more than that today.
  • There was also a taxi drop-off point and board offering discounted rides away from the centre - excellent idea to increase the reach of the centre for those without their own car.
  • It's only been an hour so far but no negative effects yet other than a slight tenderness at the injection site. Hopefully it'll stay that way, but I was warned that fatigue and feeling rough the next day is fairly common.
  • It was lovely to see that all the people working at the site had sticky labels with their names written on. Some had a doodled flower, and one gentleman even had a lovely sheep...
I'm in my 30s, and despite the recent negative press on AZ did not hesitate for a moment when it was offered. The car I was travelling in was nearly edged off the road by a tractor on our way to the vaccination site - which is thousands of times more risky to my health than having the AZ or any other vaccine!

My understanding is that the odds of developing a clot from AZ are around 1 in a million (and death even less likely) – similar odds to being struck by lightning, and we generally don't worry about that in our day-to-day lives. It is of course sensible to be aware of possible side effects and what to do (which will be covered in the consent), but the likelihood of experiencing them is miniscule - while the benefit to yourself and everyone around you of having the vaccine is immense.

This is FlyerTalk: we all want to be able to get travelling again as soon as possible, to see distant family and friends from whom we've been separated, and to go on holiday.

So please don't hesitate to get vaccinated when your turn comes: the vaccination effort is phenomenal, and the process is quick and easy.

DaveS Apr 10, 2021 9:53 am

Nearly forgot about this today, but here is some data:

Cases 2,589 (3,423 last Saturday)
Deaths 40 (10)
Patients admitted 221 (257 on the 30th)
Patients in hospital 2,862 (3,552 on the 1st)
Patients on ventilation 406 (485 on the 2nd)
The 7 day rolling average cases is down 32% on the previous week.

13901 Apr 10, 2021 9:59 am

So, with the weekend upon us, have the Rt Hon or Boris been asked anything about the need for being tested etc. for people who have been fully vaccinated? I mean, how daft is it that the new guidelines for returning to travel do not have any provision for vaccinated travellers, even if they’ve all blabbed for weeks about vaccination passports and so on?

PxC Apr 10, 2021 10:50 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33167242)
So, with the weekend upon us, have the Rt Hon or Boris been asked anything about the need for being tested etc. for people who have been fully vaccinated? I mean, how daft is it that the new guidelines for returning to travel do not have any provision for vaccinated travellers, even if they’ve all blabbed for weeks about vaccination passports and so on?

And a requirement that foreign visitors be vaccinated for entry to the UK wouldn't go amiss either.

In case anyone didn't notice, since the non royal news has been rather overshadowed in the last couple of days, the government hit its 32m first dose target today...

paulaf Apr 10, 2021 11:26 am


Originally Posted by PxC (Post 33167352)
And a requirement that foreign visitors be vaccinated for entry to the UK wouldn't go amiss either.

In case anyone didn't notice, since the non royal news has been rather overshadowed in the last couple of days, the government hit its 32m first dose target today...

Yes I did notice re vaccs, does that mean we've officially hit the target of all over 50's or close enough? Will Shapps still report/decide on the Global Travel Taskforce on Monday as I read there was supposed to be no political news in this period of mourning?

MoreMilesPlease Apr 10, 2021 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 33167176)
I believe the plan - albeit not yet confirmed - is they would be usable for your pre-arrival test coming to the UK.

Not sure how that would work. You can't use them in the UK for your return test ( say a weekend getaway).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ing-to-england

If you take your test in the UK

If you take your test in the UK, ahead of a return journey of less than 3 days, you must use a private test provider. You cannot use a National Health Service (NHS) test.

liquidtoast Apr 10, 2021 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33166693)
Struck gold and my vaccine is in an hour but feeling nervous about it being AZ to be honest, especially with my genetic test thing showing the thrombophilia. I want to bring it up but am scared they'll say we don't have any Pfizer here today so to be safe you're walking away with nothing until you speak to your GP about this. So not sure what to say/ask, if anything at all.

Also will be away in three months' time so also need my second dose a bit sooner than it would be otherwise so I feel I have a lot of requests for today!

If you don't mind me asking, I remember that you were having difficulty finding a leftover dose - how did you end up succeeding? I am based in Glasgow and would be interested too, for obvious reasons.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 10, 2021 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by squawk (Post 33167213)
Some had a doodled flower, and one gentleman even had a lovely sheep...

Yes, possibly the most surreal FT Do we have ever been at, but it was lovely to see you today, the other staff enjoyed chatting to you, and a genuinely a privilege to administer your vaccine - thankfully you didn't scream the house down.


I'm in my 30s, and despite the recent negative press on AZ did not hesitate for a moment when it was offered. The car I was travelling in was nearly edged off the road by a tractor on our way to the vaccination site - which is thousands of times more risky to my health than having the AZ or any other vaccine!
Yes I was thinking tht on the drive home (through a blizzard!) that it was extraordinary that you had a close encounter with a tractor in the middle of Newcastle. It does show how the odds of wierd stuff happening is some times difficult to rationalise.

Nothing too ambitious tomorrow, and I forgot to mention that you need to keep note of anything odd happening from mid next week to the end of the month, in terms of unexpected headaches and the like. But thank you for getting your jab, we need everyone to do the same when their turn comes.

Internaut Apr 10, 2021 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33167228)
Nearly forgot about this today, but here is some data:

Cases 2,589 (3,423 last Saturday)
Deaths 40 (10)
Patients admitted 221 (257 on the 30th)
Patients in hospital 2,862 (3,552 on the 1st)
Patients on ventilation 406 (485 on the 2nd)
The 7 day rolling average cases is down 32% on the previous week.

Impossible to compare given the idiocy we had over the Easter Weekend?

corporate-wage-slave Apr 10, 2021 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33167086)
cws, do you know how places are doing it when someone comes that has to answer yes to having had allergic reactions to things? A friend of mine is allergic to a few things and some unknown things, so he is curious if the system will already know this or if he has a chance of being turned away when he gets his appt and says 'yes' to those questions.

Yes, as noted in your following comment, we do vaccinate people, even those who carry epi-pens. The only difference is that I ask people where their epi-pen is, though we have adrenaline on stock and enough medical staff on site to run a small hospital. The only bar as you indicated is either a really, really, really bad reaction to vaccine 1, or a severe / potential anaphylactic reaction to a specific ingredient in the vaccines. These don't include eggs (which is present in some vaccines) or fish material (ditto). The one we sometimes flag is PEG, which is in candles and washing up liquid, so about as obscure at it gets. That's in Pfizer and Moderna, not AZ, so we tended to steer those with multiple unresolved allergies to AZ as a result.

When you come for a vaccine, we don't peruse your medical records, all we do is ask you a set of questions and if necessary call over a GP or other specialist over for a chat. Virtually no-one will not get a vaccine due to allergies, in fact though there are some things which delay a vaccine (e.g. a recent fever), pretty much nothing stops you, medically, from having a vaccine. Clearly for AZ there are some specific things we now need to look out for, but thrmobosis is treatable if spotted in time. Your GP is there to help you and you pay him/her via the tax system to give you a full health service. So always explore your concerns with them, that is what they are there for.

How did it go today?

KARFA Apr 10, 2021 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease (Post 33167481)
Not sure how that would work. You can't use them in the UK for your return test ( say a weekend getaway).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ing-to-england

If you take your test in the UK

If you take your test in the UK, ahead of a return journey of less than 3 days, you must use a private test provider. You cannot use a National Health Service (NHS) test.

Yes currently you can't use an NHS test. However, currently you can buy a private lateral flow test to take away with you and do before you come back - for example the BA/Qured test. One of the proposals in the recent report was that you could use one of the free lateral flow tests for the pre-arrival test.


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