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Silver Fox Apr 8, 2021 5:36 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33161663)
People said that after the first lockdown, that nobody would accept a second etc, and look where we are now, so I am not sure I am convinced of that theory.

Most people beyond the bubble of this forum are not that bothered about having to have a staycation.

I think the attitude to any further lockdowns is totally different now due to the vaccine. That will be a hard one to sell.

Misco60 Apr 8, 2021 5:42 am


Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle (Post 33161660)
The May 17 date has been around for so long now that there is going to be some serious unrest and anger if it is put back. I sense people's patience with lockdowns in general is wearing very thin, and the current 'roadmap' set of promises is the only thing keeping a lid on the public mood.

I don't think the general public is as focused on 17 May as this forum is. In all the conversations I have with friends, family and neighbours on a daily basis the subject of summer holidays is almost never raised.

In fact, I think the public would be quite supportive of a postponement of international travel if the government could show that it was necessary.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 8, 2021 5:45 am


Originally Posted by fransknorge (Post 33161652)
A question for CWS: I received the email (the snail mail letter will arrive soon I guess) confirming my two appointments for the first and second jab of BioNtech in respectively 2 and 6 weeks. Huzzah.
Both times the appointment is end of afternoon, around 6 PM and both times I have reha-sport (physiotherapist intensive exercising for one hour) a couple of hours before the shot. Based on your experience, is it a good idea to reschedule the physiotherapy on the day before and take it easy the 12 hours before the jab ?

Gosh it's so incredibly slow for you, can't you at least have the first one sooner? But I know the answer to this one, the exercise timings beforehand are perfectly placed! We have a bit of evidence that those who exercise their muscles, particularly their deltoids, before the jab get a slightly better / faster response to the vaccine, and perhaps slighrly less side effects. It's quite weak, I think it fails "significance" on a statistical basis, but looking at the raw data it still sticks out. So long as your body will have returned to normal heart beat and breathing immediately before vaccination this would be good for you. I usualy get a chuckle from the old dears when I advise them to not have a complicated next day after vaccination, but in your case you really do want a nice easy day after vaccination, so a perfect day for Flytertalk!

VSLover Apr 8, 2021 5:46 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33161682)
you really do want a nice easy day after vaccination, so a perfect day for Flyteralk!


well, for people who are on blood pressure meds!

corporate-wage-slave Apr 8, 2021 5:51 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33161617)
Do you think this would work in SCO, considering I have tried this before and was laughed out the building?

Round here we say "shy bairns get nowt".

paulaf Apr 8, 2021 5:52 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33161617)
Do you think this would work in SCO, considering I have tried this before and was laughed out the building?

Try fluttering your eyelashes!

Professor Yaffle Apr 8, 2021 5:52 am


Originally Posted by Misco60 (Post 33161676)
I don't think the general public is as focused on 17 May as this forum is. In all the conversations I have with friends, family and neighbours on a daily basis the subject of summer holidays is almost never raised.

Well we must move in very different social circles. It is pretty much the only topic of conversation I have with anyone these days - everyone is desperate for a does of normality, some hot weather etc.

Dan1113 Apr 8, 2021 5:56 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33161690)
Round here we say "shy bairns get nowt".

I will try tonight at my two local health boards and report back. If they close 8, go for 7?

fransknorge Apr 8, 2021 5:56 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33161682)
Gosh it's so incredibly slow for you, can't you at least have the first one sooner? But I know the answer to this one, the exercise timings beforehand are perfectly placed! We have a bit of evidence that those who exercise their muscles, particularly their deltoids, before the jab get a slightly better / faster response to the vaccine, and perhaps slighrly less side effects. It's quite weak, I think it fails "significance" on a statistical basis, but looking at the raw data it still sticks out. So long as your body will have returned to normal heart beat and breathing immediately before vaccination this would be good for you. I usualy get a chuckle from the old dears when I advise them to not have a complicated next day after vaccination, but in your case you really do want a nice easy day after vaccination, so a perfect day for Flytertalk!

Thank you, this is perfect as we are focusing a lot of the exercises on the upper back :)
No, not possible to get the first one sooner. It is already sooner than expected, thanks to an unexpected 10 000 doses of BioNtech arriving in Rhineland-Palatinate yesterday.
I will bookmark my old favorites trip reports for the next day !

corporate-wage-slave Apr 8, 2021 5:58 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33161697)
I will try tonight at my two local health boards and report back. If they close 8, go for 7?

Yes. For us, that's when we would get tetchy about the number of needles lying around and any no-shows, I start muttering about getting my cattle prod out. Take your employers' ID card, it would help in England though I note your previous reactions there.

paulaf Apr 8, 2021 5:58 am


Originally Posted by Misco60 (Post 33161676)
I don't think the general public is as focused on 17 May as this forum is. In all the conversations I have with friends, family and neighbours on a daily basis the subject of summer holidays is almost never raised.

In fact, I think the public would be quite supportive of a postponement of international travel if the government could show that it was necessary.

I completely disagree, some people have worked really hard over the last year and crave a holiday, also don't forget people want to see family they have been separated from for over a year too so its not just holidays, you must be lucky if all your family live nearby. I'm sad enough to read replies to Paul Charles tweets and people are desperate to see family. Sarah Vine a DM columnist who is married to Michael Gove hasn't seen her elderly parents in Italy for well over a year and seems worried about them, she mentions it frequently, there must be thousands of others in this situation.

Kgmm77 Apr 8, 2021 6:04 am


Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle (Post 33161660)
The May 17 date has been around for so long now that there is going to be some serious unrest and anger if it is put back. I sense people's patience with lockdowns in general is wearing very thin, and the current 'roadmap' set of promises is the only thing keeping a lid on the public mood.

I get that people want clarity, but the UK Government can only provide clarity insofar as their own restrictions. Stating the blinding obvious, but international travel requires clarity from other jurisdictions. And there aren’t many currently that are in as positive and stable scenario as the UK is, to be able to provide forward clarity with any real confidence level.

So ultimately I’m not sure how much certainty the UK making it’s own announcements will bring to most people in the context of planning trips etc.

Dan1113 Apr 8, 2021 6:12 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33161705)
Yes. For us, that's when we would get tetchy about the number of needles lying around and any no-shows, I start muttering about getting my cattle prod out. Take your employers' ID card, it would help in England though I note your previous reactions there.

Thanks. May the odds be ever in my favour and all fingers crossed!

13901 Apr 8, 2021 6:17 am

I’m still friends with people in BA Engineering who are looking after the fleet mothballed in various corners of the UK, Europe and the Mid-East. The unanimous feedback is that they are getting ready for some sort of re-start (the planes in short term
storage can be stood up fairly quickly and pilots are, apart from those in the holding pools, current) but it’s not as if they’re forecasting a flood of activity come May 18th at midnight. In fact if one checks schedules for May 30th bank holiday there still isn’t much inventory going around, even for more bullish airlines such as Ryanair and Wizzair.

There’s also the other side of the equation to be considered, ie the other countries: while we’ve heard some rumblings from Greece and Spain and rumours from the US right now there isn’t really a lot of actual facts. It might all change come late April but... personally, right now I’m not really planning any travel for May or June and beyond that it’s just science fiction.

Professor Yaffle Apr 8, 2021 6:30 am


Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 33161719)
I get that people want clarity, but the UK Government can only provide clarity insofar as their own restrictions. Stating the blinding obvious, but international travel requires clarity from other jurisdictions. And there aren’t many currently that are in as positive and stable scenario as the UK is, to be able to provide forward clarity with any real confidence level.

So ultimately I’m not sure how much certainty the UK making it’s own announcements will bring to most people in the context of planning trips etc.

I would be beyond astonished if this isnt being discussed between the various governments - there have been so many leaks regarding the US that they are clearly coming from some officail source, and they would not be guiding in this way if the discussions about a mutual easing of restrictions hadnt taken place. And the major Euro-tourist hubs have already made positive noises, so are ahead of us on that front. It is in everyone's interests to get this part of the economy moving as soon as possible.


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