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Originally Posted by Kiraly
(Post 29249413)
Point of info regarding crossing at the land border from Canada into the United States and brining passengers with you who are Global Entry members (and have GE RFID cards) but who are not NEXUS members. CBP agent told me two days ago that while some CBP agents may allows this, it is a violation of the NEXUS rules, and not to do it. I looked carefully at the rules and they don't contradict what he said. The GE rules say that It says GE members may use the NEXUS lane when entering the US, but the NEXUS rules say the driver must be a NEXUS member and must ensure that all passengers also be NEXUS members when using the NEXUS lane to enter the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say passengers may have GE only.
Presumably if you have a GE-only passenger, you should switch seats, get him to drive through, and you'd all then be in compliance. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 29251251)
Maybe US law blocking it? Only the locations located in US lack iris scan capability. Non-airport locations located in Canada can take iris scan.
Interestingly, I had my interview at Whirlpool (Niagara), where the interview occurs on the US side of the bridge. The interview involved CBSA followed by CBP and fingerprinting for GE. I was then sent to the office on the Canadian side for my NEXUS iris scan. That setup tells me the putting iris scan on Canadian soil was intentional, since the offices are literally 300 yards from each other. |
Originally Posted by iamflyer
(Post 29252303)
Curious, was this an agent in the Nexus lane at the border?
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Originally Posted by Kiraly
(Post 29253529)
No, it was a CBP officer at the YVR NEXUS enrollment centre telling me not to bring passengers with GE cards but not NEXUS through the land border NEXUS lane.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...bal-entry/card Using Your Global Entry Card We accept Global Entry cards for lawful U.S. entry at land and sea ports of entry. Global Entry cards have radio frequency identification chips, which enable their use at Secure Electronic Network for Travelers Rapid Inspection (SENTRI) and NEXUS travel lanes when entering the United States at the land borders. You must follow all program rules for SENTRI when using this card at the Southern land border ports of entry. You may use this card for expedited entry into the United States via the SENTRI and NEXUS lanes. The card is not valid for entry into Canada via the NEXUS lanes. |
Originally Posted by dustman81
(Post 29258101)
For entry into Canada, that's true. Only NEXUS members can use the NEXUS lane heading north. However, for heading into the US, NEXUS, Global Entry, and SENTRI members can all use the NEXUS lanes heading south, as long as everyone has their cards in hand.
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Originally Posted by dustman81
(Post 29258101)
For entry into Canada, that's true. Only NEXUS members can use the NEXUS lane heading north. However, for heading into the US, NEXUS, Global Entry, and SENTRI members can all use the NEXUS lanes heading south, as long as everyone has their cards in hand.
It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance. |
Originally Posted by Kiraly
(Post 29261444)
Correct, but if the vehicle driver has NEXUS, then he is bound by the NEXUS rules, which say that all passengers must also have NEXUS when using the NEXUS lane in to the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say you can bring passengers who have GE but not NEXUS through the NEXUS lane. This is what the CBP officer was explaining to me, that while some CBP agents at the border will allow NEXUS drivers to do this, others won't, because it's a violation of the NEXUS rules. He emphasized that I should NOT do this.
It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance. |
Originally Posted by Kiraly
(Post 29261444)
Correct, but if the vehicle driver has NEXUS, then he is bound by the NEXUS rules, which say that all passengers must also have NEXUS when using the NEXUS lane in to the US. There's nothing in the NEXUS rules that say you can bring passengers who have GE but not NEXUS through the NEXUS lane. This is what the CBP officer was explaining to me, that while some CBP agents at the border will allow NEXUS drivers to do this, others won't, because it's a violation of the NEXUS rules. He emphasized that I should NOT do this.
It's easy to get around this though, by switching seats and having your GE-only passenger drive when using the NEXUS lane into the US. Then you'll both be in compliance. It's almost as bad as SSSS on just one passenger in a multi passenger booking, as you can just give all your crap to whoever your travelling with and there is nothing to be searched. You know because terrorists never travel in groups? I really wish Canada would have a 5 year Canada only version of Nexus (Not Canpass which only lasts for a year at a time) |
Does anyone have recent experience with passport renewal and updating the information with NEXUS? I do remember the CBSA agent mentionning that I would have to go in-person to update my passport information but the NEXUS website now says that updates can be done through the TTP portal and "that NEXUS members are not required to report to an Enrolment Centre to update or change their passport information with the CBSA".
If I can avoid a trip to the airport just to update my NEXUS/passport data, that would be great, but I want to make sure the information posted online is correct! |
I would suggest to give them a call first, it may save you a trip. I believe that the general consensus here in regards to passport information update is to do online update first and follow up with a visit to NEXUS enrollment centre as apparently the online update does not propagate to CBSA systems.
You may be able to do it via phone call as per post 10229 here - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trus...l#post27776191 I did the passport info update in December 2017 in person at YYZ NEXUS office (after updating same info online first) and based on comments from both agents, CBSA did not see the new info while CBP did see it. |
Originally Posted by jasdou
(Post 29274008)
Does anyone have recent experience with passport renewal and updating the information with NEXUS? I do remember the CBSA agent mentionning that I would have to go in-person to update my passport information but the NEXUS website now says that updates can be done through the TTP portal and "that NEXUS members are not required to report to an Enrolment Centre to update or change their passport information with the CBSA".
If I can avoid a trip to the airport just to update my NEXUS/passport data, that would be great, but I want to make sure the information posted online is correct! My first hand experience confirms you don't need to update passport (assuming update is merely to passport# and expiry date) in person; only an update online is necessary. |
Originally Posted by pa3lsvt
(Post 29253088)
I have always assumed it had to do with InfoSec, since the iris scan is NEXUS-only and the initial scanning (creation) and kiosk use (access) of the iris scan data only occurs in Canada. The data may be held in a system that is isolated from extra-national (to Canada) access. Even though some of the NEXUS program data is shared with CBP, the iris scan data appears to be Canada-only.
Interestingly, I had my interview at Whirlpool (Niagara), where the interview occurs on the US side of the bridge. The interview involved CBSA followed by CBP and fingerprinting for GE. I was then sent to the office on the Canadian side for my NEXUS iris scan. That setup tells me the putting iris scan on Canadian soil was intentional, since the offices are literally 300 yards from each other. |
Originally Posted by jebr
(Post 29276492)
Other than the Seattle location, are there any locations that aren't essentially on the border or on Canadian soil? If the office is on the border, there should be a CBSA checkpoint on Canadian soil that could have an iris scanner if needed. (Interestingly, when I did my interview, I actually did the US side at the CBP office/checkpoint, then was instructed to drive to the CBSA checkpoint on the other side of the border to finish there.)
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I recently renewed my passport information on line and had crossed the border multiple times with no problem. For some reason I could not enter the information for my renewed drivers license. Because I live so close to the B.C./Washington state border I made a trip to the Birch Bay Village Nexus office mainly to make sure all other information was o.k. for international travel. The only thing they were interested in was updating my drivers license but they couldn't tell me about my iris scan. The Canadian office is about 5 minutes away right at the Truck crossing so made a trip there and all was o.k. Very few people at the Birch Bay location just off of I-5 and no one at the iris scan location. I know, I am paranoid but wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to go through a secondary inspection.
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Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 29275128)
CBSA website has indicated NO visit required for updates to passport (changes to due to expiry not changes to citizenship) for several years. An online change would suffice.
http://i.imgur.com/61zjHU6.png |
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