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NA-Flyer Nov 2, 2017 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by Mcdonoughdr (Post 29010178)
What is the general experience like when entering Canada at the airport with Nexus as a US citizen? After the kiosks do they officers as you the same questions as the normal lines?

When arriving by air: the officer will take the slip printed by the nexus kiosk and you are all set to go out of the arrival area in minuets ^

ALW Nov 2, 2017 3:32 pm

Time to renew my Nexus again (it expires in March). I'm a little confused about conflicting information but also want to make sure I didn't click the wrong button. I have created an account on login.gov to use the new TTP site. My dashboard says I'm a Nexus member and I clicked on renew. Wording seems to imply I'm applying for a new Nexus card so I wonder if I did something wrong.

CBSA site says:


Please note that a streamlined renewal process is now in place. It is no longer necessary for the majority of renewing members who have not had changes to their information and have maintained their low-risk status to attend an interview.
but TTP site says:


If your application is conditionally approved, you will be required to travel to an enrollment center for an interview.
and the button is "Apply for Nexus" which makes me wonder if I took the wrong path. Am I in the right place there?

Also, I wondered about renewing by paper vs online. The latter is easier but the former is $15 cheaper (USD vs CAD). Is there any functional difference? If I'm not going to need an interview I can wait an extra week or two, but if there is in fact always an interview I probably have to apply now.

Finally, will I get a full 5 years? This card was issued in Sep 2012 and expires Mar 2018, so I assume the new one will expire Mar 2023.

Thanks!
=aw

dustman81 Nov 3, 2017 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 29010736)
Time to renew my Nexus again (it expires in March). I'm a little confused about conflicting information but also want to make sure I didn't click the wrong button. I have created an account on login.gov to use the new TTP site. My dashboard says I'm a Nexus member and I clicked on renew. Wording seems to imply I'm applying for a new Nexus card so I wonder if I did something wrong.

CBSA site says:



but TTP site says:



and the button is "Apply for Nexus" which makes me wonder if I took the wrong path. Am I in the right place there?

Also, I wondered about renewing by paper vs online. The latter is easier but the former is $15 cheaper (USD vs CAD). Is there any functional difference? If I'm not going to need an interview I can wait an extra week or two, but if there is in fact always an interview I probably have to apply now.

Finally, will I get a full 5 years? This card was issued in Sep 2012 and expires Mar 2018, so I assume the new one will expire Mar 2023.

Thanks!
=aw

I can answer the third question.

You get five years added on to your old expiration date, which is your birth date, so if your old card expires in March 2018, the new one will expire in 2023.

I renewed mine last month, without an interview.

ALW Nov 3, 2017 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by dustman81 (Post 29016236)
I renewed mine last month, without an interview.

Thank you. Did you submit the renewal online or by paper? And did it feel like you were submitting a new application? That's how it feels when I click "Renew" on TTP.

=aw

Kiraly Nov 4, 2017 11:12 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 29010195)
When arriving by air: the officer will take the slip printed by the nexus kiosk and you are all set to go out of the arrival area in minuets ^

Sure, but instead of standing around in the immigration line, you then have to stand around at the baggage carousel to collect your checked bags, which aren't arriving any sooner than anyone else's. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

It's more useful when departing, when the NEXUS card gets you to the short line in security. And it really shines at the land border, when it can save you hours of time.

seawolf Nov 4, 2017 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by Kiraly (Post 29017963)
Sure, but instead of standing around in the immigration line, you then have to stand around at the baggage carousel to collect your checked bags, which aren't arriving any sooner than anyone else's. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

It's more useful when departing, when the NEXUS card gets you to the short line in security. And it really shines at the land border, when it can save you hours of time.

It depends. There are times when customs is also a bottleneck in US/Canadian airports. NEXUS get their own customs lane as well.

dustman81 Nov 4, 2017 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 29016492)
Thank you. Did you submit the renewal online or by paper? And did it feel like you were submitting a new application? That's how it feels when I click "Renew" on TTP.

=aw

I started mine on the old GOES site, which automatically transferred to the TTP site.

They ask you the same basic questions, like your current address, current employer, if you've moved in the last five years (and if so, what were your old address(es)), if you've changed jobs in the last five years (and if so, who were your old employers), countries you've been to in the previous five years (excluding Canada and Mexico), passport info, and driver's license info (if you have one).

They'll let you know on the TTP site if you're conditionally approved (meaning you need to interview) or if you're fully approved (no interview required).

Jono Nov 4, 2017 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 29016492)
Thank you. Did you submit the renewal online or by paper? And did it feel like you were submitting a new application? That's how it feels when I click "Renew" on TTP.

=aw

Even when you renewed on GOES in the past, it made you walk through the entire application as if you were applying for the first time, but all of the info that you had entered on the previous application was already pre-filled, so you only had to edit anything that changed.

Not sure if TTP does the same.

Finkface Nov 4, 2017 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by Jono (Post 29019596)
Even when you renewed on GOES in the past, it made you walk through the entire application as if you were applying for the first time, but all of the info that you had entered on the previous application was already pre-filled, so you only had to edit anything that changed.

Not sure if TTP does the same.

It does. I set up our accounts in the new TTP site and renewed last week. It does sort of look like you are applying from scratch at first but it becomes clear it is a renewal when it asks you to just confirm the info from the old site and list the countries visited in the past 5 years.

ALW Nov 4, 2017 11:06 pm

I notice the question "Have you ever been found in violation of customs or immigration laws or other federal import laws?" is defined as including refusal into US. Am I right that would include being refused TN status due to inadequate documentation, that application being later approved?

I'm highlighting it because the question sounds much more serious than that particular answer, and someone in that position might say "no" based on the question wording. I wonder if "yes" means an interview, but if "no" could mean a refusal (for someone in that position).

=aw

NA-Flyer Nov 5, 2017 7:47 am


Originally Posted by Kiraly (Post 29017963)
Sure, but instead of standing around in the immigration line, you then have to stand around at the baggage carousel to collect your checked bags, which aren't arriving any sooner than anyone else's. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Luckily 90% of my travel is with carry on's :)

Kiraly Nov 5, 2017 9:56 am


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 29019765)
I notice the question "Have you ever been found in violation of customs or immigration laws or other federal import laws?" is defined as including refusal into US.

Where does it say that refusal into the US is a violation of customs or immigration laws? I was refused entry into the US twice (both before 2001) and answered "no" to that question when applying and renewing. No problems.

ALW Nov 5, 2017 10:17 am


Originally Posted by Kiraly (Post 29021246)
Where does it say that refusal into the US is a violation of customs or immigration laws?

The popup explaining that question gives a bunch of reasons and refusal into US is one of them. Note that it also says "any immigration documentation issues" (I know TN is a non-immigrant status but I suspect that's not what they mean). ...here https://www.screencast.com/t/vPRsZc3lJ

That's why I was highlighting it, the explanation includes something that most people (okay, I :)) wouldn't consider to apply. But for all I know, a lawyer might say that presenting yourself at the border with inadequate documentation for a TN-status application is technically a violation of immigration law.

=aw

seawolf Nov 5, 2017 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 29021316)
The popup explaining that question gives a bunch of reasons and refusal into US is one of them. Note that it also says "any immigration documentation issues" (I know TN is a non-immigrant status but I suspect that's not what they mean). ...here https://www.screencast.com/t/vPRsZc3lJ

That's why I was highlighting it, the explanation includes something that most people (okay, I :)) wouldn't consider to apply. But for all I know, a lawyer might say that presenting yourself at the border with inadequate documentation for a TN-status application is technically a violation of immigration law.

=aw

IMO TN being a “non-immigrant” visa has no bearing to the screenshot.

What do you meant earlier when you indicated you did not obtain TN status? Were you declared inadmissible by CBP? If so, you ought to include that as 1.), CBP would already have a record of incident (and subsequently allowing entry) and 2.) leaving it out already tells them you are not completely truthful in your application.

ALW Nov 5, 2017 10:21 pm

That's exactly what I was thinking. While neither confirming nor denying that the person in question is me :) , when I saw that description in the pop I immediately thought of the situation to which I referred:

the person applied at a land border for TN status, was rejected due to inadequate documentation, issued a formal denial of entry, and returned the next day with additional material that met the agent's requirements and was granted TN status. The second agent seemed to imply the denial of entry was overkill (vs something along the lines of "maybe you'd like to withdraw your application and go home", for example).

I thought this situation met the requirements for "yes" based on this popup, though it wouldn't be "violation if immigration laws" to this layman. That's why I flagged it here, and wondered if it would turn a routine no-interview renewal into an interview situation. As the popup says "not necessarily disqualifying, but should be noted" and failure to reveal is an issue in itself (a bit like declaring >$10K at the border).

=aw


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