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Originally Posted by eyeballer
(Post 20780738)
Quick question re: the Nexus enrollment center at YYZ.
Wife and I have our Nexus cards but no iris scans. We're arriving into YYZ at ~ 7pm on a Friday (on AA, T3). I see the office closes at 8pm so hoping to get over there for scans. We won't have checked bags.. is this feasible? What's the fastest way to get over there? If not, we could do it on our way out as it's a Monday, but I'd rather get it out of the way if possible. |
Originally Posted by bb1987
(Post 20780497)
I am sure you are right as far as the language in Canada's immigration law is concerned. On the other hand, each person can have only one permanent residency, this is mainly for tax purposes, so in effect, each person, citizen, foreign national, or stateless person, still has to be a permanent resident, either in their own country or in another country, so classifying people as citizens vs permanent residents,vs foreign nationals (visitors) is technically incorrect, and I don't believe most other countries classify people in this manner. I think they should be called foreign nationals with permanent resident status.
I live in the US as a non-resident alien. It makes filling out customs cards incredibly challenging. I'm visiting the country I live in, and I'm a resident of the country I'm visiting. I think. :confused: |
Originally Posted by flyquiet
(Post 20781869)
There is a shuttle train between terminals. I have not done the pop-in iris scan but the train is relatively frequent and the NEXUS office is just outside the US preclearance hall on the Departure level of T1.
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Originally Posted by flyquiet
(Post 20781857)
You're using the words "permanent resident" in the standard English way, but the term "Permanent Resident" is a special term in Canada. We used to call those people "Landed Immigrants" until Immigration retrained us.
I am not sure you are correct that one can have only one tax residency. If you do not sever your ties to Canada (i.e., keep a home here, retain your bank accounts, etc.), but reside in the USA for 200 days of the year, I believe you will be considered both a Canadian resident and a resident alien of the USA. I'm not sure that has any bearing on the Permanent Residency considered in the NEXUS definitions. When the immigration people (either CBP talking about Canada, or Canada's own immigration people) are using terms that are special to them, they really should be capitalizing the words (as Permanent Resident, rather than permanent resident) to cue the reader to recognize that the use of the term should be accompanied by a reference to the definition section which defines Permanent Resident as a foreign national who holds status as a legal permanent resident under form ABC, etc. In my opinion, it's not prudent to start reading things with standard English interpretations because you get into unintended extensions, such as "everyone has to be resident somewhere" leading to "John Doe is a permanent resident of Texas in the sense that he permanently resides there, although he is a Mexican national and the state of Texas is unaware of his residency." When reading government documents and web pages, a single paragraph rarely stands alone, but has to be read in the context of definitions. They would help if they would capitalize the special defined terms, but if a policy hinges on interpretation of a particular word, it's worth checking for their definitions. I had wondered myself if I can be a resident of more than one country and actually asked one of the border immigration people if that is possible. His answer was that you can only be a permanent resident of one country. |
Originally Posted by bb1987
(Post 20781971)
I had wondered myself if I can be a resident of more than one country and actually asked one of the border immigration people if that is possible. His answer was that you can only be a permanent resident of one country.
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Originally Posted by HomoEconomicus
(Post 20781915)
The train is out of service for a few months. There's an inter-terminal bus you can find on the departures level.
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Originally Posted by HomoEconomicus
(Post 20782097)
To confuse matters further, there's this: Residential Status of Travellers Arriving in Canada. One could certainly be a Permanent Resident of Canada for immigration purposes, but a non-resident of Canada for the purposes of the tariff classification of goods. Fun, no?
I am definitely not a resident of the United States, even though I live here. However, that link makes it sound like I'm not a resident of Canada either, as I'm a citizen who only visits for short vacations. Am I a resident anywhere? :confused: |
Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 20784988)
Ugh now I'm confused again.
I am definitely not a resident of the United States, even though I live here. However, that link makes it sound like I'm not a resident of Canada either, as I'm a citizen who only visits for short vacations. Am I a resident anywhere? :confused: Based on my recollections of your posts, I would think you're a resident of the United States. Presumably you filed a tax return as a resident alien and your NEXUS record currently indicates you reside in the US under the TN or whatever visa you hold. You are not merely sojourning, but are "permitted by the immigration authorities to live there permanently or for an extended period of time". For Canadian immigration purposes, you are a former resident of Canada not returning to resume residence but wishing to visit for short periods. (From the link posted by HomoEconomicus) When I lived in the US, there was no doubt that I resided in the US and the US only, even though I had to renew that visa every single year and never sought a green card. I was a legal resident, but not a permanent resident, but the latter distinction never came up in my monthly jaunts across the border to visit family and friends. I remained a Canadian citizen, but was not a Canadian resident in any sense. Although it is irrelevant to NEXUS, for taxation purposes, you may also be a "factual resident for tax purposes" of Canada if you maintain ties that suggest that you are only temporarily residing in the US. See also Emigrant. (I jumped through the hoops to meet the definition of Emigrant because it simplified my tax filing, and I had no intent to move back, although I eventually did.) |
Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 20781887)
I just had to deal with all this nonsense. Your residence for tax purposes is not necessarily the same as your residence for immigration purposes. In 2013, I am a resident of the USA for taxes, and I am a resident of Canada for immigration purposes.
I live in the US as a non-resident alien. It makes filling out customs cards incredibly challenging. I'm visiting the country I live in, and I'm a resident of the country I'm visiting. I think. :confused: When I asked the same question to a CBP officer after I first moved a few years back, he remarked that I should fill out the customs card as a US resident (pre-GE days), but the NEXUS receipt will still mark me as a 'Visitor'. |
My daughter - a minor - booked for nexus interview
My wife and I have recently become nexus cardholders.
Our 17 year daughter was conditionally approved as the 2 of us; I decided not to book her interview until after school ends (in a few weeks) - at YOW, the nexus office is only open on working hours during weekdays. The questions are whether one or both parents should go. What documentation should we bring to the interview? Will she be asked questions or will her parents be asked questions? Will she have to undergo both a fingerprint and iris scan? |
Originally Posted by flyquiet
(Post 20781869)
There is a shuttle train between terminals. I have not done the pop-in iris scan but the train is relatively frequent and the NEXUS office is just outside the US preclearance hall on the Departure level of T1.
Originally Posted by HomoEconomicus
(Post 20781915)
The train is out of service for a few months. There's an inter-terminal bus you can find on the departures level.
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
(Post 20785870)
My wife and I have recently become nexus cardholders.
Our 17 year daughter was conditionally approved as the 2 of us; I decided not to book her interview until after school ends (in a few weeks) - at YOW, the nexus office is only open on working hours during weekdays. The questions are whether one or both parents should go. What documentation should we bring to the interview? Will she be asked questions or will her parents be asked questions? Will she have to undergo both a fingerprint and iris scan? At 17, she will do both the iris scan and fingerprints. It's not a problem. Just have her bring a contact case & solution if she has contacts. I missed the part about having to take them out for the initial scan. |
Originally Posted by flyquiet
(Post 20785110)
I think more likely you reside in two places, but at least one, certainly.
Based on my recollections of your posts, I would think you're a resident of the United States. Presumably you filed a tax return as a resident alien and your NEXUS record currently indicates you reside in the US under the TN or whatever visa you hold. You are not merely sojourning, but are "permitted by the immigration authorities to live there permanently or for an extended period of time". For Canadian immigration purposes, you are a former resident of Canada not returning to resume residence but wishing to visit for short periods. (From the link posted by HomoEconomicus) When I lived in the US, there was no doubt that I resided in the US and the US only, even though I had to renew that visa every single year and never sought a green card. I was a legal resident, but not a permanent resident, but the latter distinction never came up in my monthly jaunts across the border to visit family and friends. I remained a Canadian citizen, but was not a Canadian resident in any sense. Although it is irrelevant to NEXUS, for taxation purposes, you may also be a "factual resident for tax purposes" of Canada if you maintain ties that suggest that you are only temporarily residing in the US. See also Emigrant. (I jumped through the hoops to meet the definition of Emigrant because it simplified my tax filing, and I had no intent to move back, although I eventually did.) |
Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 20787827)
TN status makes me a non-resident alien of the United States. I am absolutely not a resident of the US. But I live here. However, I am not permitted to live here permanently. TN is not a dual-intent visa. I am not allowed to have immigration intent.
"The legal definition of Permanent Resident is An individual who has status in a country usually less than citizenship but more than just a visitor." So I guess citizens are not permanent residents in their own country, but they may obtain such status in another country. For tax purposes, types of residencies get more confusing as this canadian govt website states: 'Your residency status will determine if you are a factual resident, a deemed resident, a non-resident, or a deemed non-resident of Canada for income tax purposes." so i guess according to this a canadian citizen is usually a factual resident if he resides in canada, and a deemed resident if he lives somewhere else on some work visa, and a non resident if he obtained permanent residency in another country. Not sure what a deemed non resident is however. |
Oh that's right, TN is contingent on residency of Canada or Mexico. I went with the H1-B visa so I resided in the US. So you ARE a resident of Canada, not a visitor, but you have no place of residence here, and you are NOT a resident of the US, although you DO have a place of residence there. I get your headache now!
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