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neely47 May 18, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm kinda confused.

So, in air mode, you don't have to declare anything that is under the personal exemption, but you must declare anything over the exemption, correct? But in land mode, you MUST declare any goods even if under personal exemption, correct?

Thanks!

Col Ronson May 18, 2013 9:56 pm

tried using by NEXUS at Pearson the other day. The air canada kiosk had major problems reading it. eventually i gave up and had to use my passport and then used the global entry machine, which was no big deal. There are like 10 of them and only 2 nexus kiosks.

neely47 May 18, 2013 10:02 pm

Also, I had my NEXUS interview done in Detroit, but did not have the iris scan done. I have a flight to YVR this Thursday. So, after I leave the plane at the airport and make my way to customs, can I use the NEXUS line-up to use the self-serve kiosk and have my iris scan taken there? Or is the iris scan thing done outside the customs area?

Thanks

HomoEconomicus May 18, 2013 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by neely47 (Post 20773953)
I'm kinda confused.

So, in air mode, you don't have to declare anything that is under the personal exemption, but you must declare anything over the exemption, correct? But in land mode, you MUST declare any goods even if under personal exemption, correct?

Thanks!

In air mode, what you're going to do is read the declaration form and answer it honestly and completely. Then, at the kiosk, you'll answer the questions posed by it. Simple, no? Been gone two weeks and bringing back $300 worth of goods and no more than the alcohol/tobacco limts? Write $300 in the little box and mark "no" to the question above it.

HomoEconomicus May 18, 2013 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by neely47 (Post 20773977)
Also, I had my NEXUS interview done in Detroit, but did not have the iris scan done. I have a flight to YVR this Thursday. So, after I leave the plane at the airport and make my way to customs, can I use the NEXUS line-up to use the self-serve kiosk and have my iris scan taken there? Or is the iris scan thing done outside the customs area?

Thanks

Use a regular immigration queue. Your iris scan has to be done at a Nexus enrolment centre, not at the kiosk. Once you clear, head to the YVR Nexus office, if it's open, for your iris scan.

msit69 May 18, 2013 10:52 pm

Can you use expired Nexus while waiting for new one?
 
I just renewed my son's card, awaiting for the new card. Since he is approved and just waiting for the new card, the number is same. Does any one know or has used the old nexus card to cross while waiting for the new one to arrive??

FlyerGoldII May 19, 2013 7:14 pm

I used nexus and global entry for the first time this weekend; I went on AC from YOW to LAX via YYZ and back.

On all 4 flights, I used the nexus card as identification - no problems (no requirements for passport on the 2 transborder flights).

Going via the connection US preclearance area - I had difficulty figuring out how the GE kiosks worked. Two of the three kiosks (including the one I used) did not have posted written instructions. The one I used had a telephone where one could hear the audio instructions, but I could not click on the button for the English language. Eventually, I got it. Of note, the kiosk requires a passport; I did not attempt to put in my nexus card.

Arriving at YYZ at the immigration and customs area around 4 PM - I suspect I would have been at least as fast, if not faster, in the regular line - now that the passport-reading machines have been installed (there was essentially no line up). I did go to the nexus line - using the iris scan for the first time - it took me 5 or 6 attempts before I was successful (after some time, the kiosk times out, and one has to start all over again).

The mirror on the kiosk machine is quite low - I had to bend down. Is this the case with all nexus kiosks ( I would prefer the GI kiosks requiring fingerprints over iris scans any day). I guess that one has to look at the green oval/egg-shaped figure? I did not have to use or display the passport at any time.

HomoEconomicus May 19, 2013 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 20778026)
The mirror on the kiosk machine is quite low - I had to bend down. Is this the case with all nexus kiosks ( I would prefer the GI kiosks requiring fingerprints over iris scans any day). I guess that one has to look at the green oval/egg-shaped figure? I did not have to use or display the passport at any time.

You can move it up and down.

bb1987 May 20, 2013 4:33 am


Originally Posted by Hellfire (Post 20752984)
You've answered your own question.... are you a CITIZEN or a Permanent Resident? If you are a CITIZEN you don't need a passport and proof of PR.

There is a difference between Citizen and PR

Actually it's very confusing. A US or Canadian CITIZEN can also be, and in most cases is a PERMANENT resident of the country he/she is a CITIZEN of. Therefore the statement appears to imply that all permanent residents of the US and Canada, weather citizens or not, need to have the passport, but I am sure that is not what was meant.

A better way to say this would be: Foreign Nationals who are permanent residents of the US or Canada .....need their passport.

HomoEconomicus May 20, 2013 7:39 am


Originally Posted by bb1987 (Post 20779666)
Actually it's very confusing. A US or Canadian CITIZEN can also be, and in most cases is a PERMANENT resident of the country he/she is a CITIZEN of. Therefore the statement appears to imply that all permanent residents of the US and Canada, weather citizens or not, need to have the passport, but I am sure that is not what was meant.

A better way to say this would be: Foreign Nationals who are permanent residents of the US or Canada .....need their passport.

There's a lot wrong with what you've said vis-à-vis Canada's immigration law. I understand your confusion, but one cannot be both a foreign national and a permanent resident, concurrently; nor, a citizen and permanent resident at the same time.

flyquiet May 20, 2013 7:59 am

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gglave May 20, 2013 8:04 am


Originally Posted by neely47 (Post 20773977)
Or is the iris scan thing done outside the customs area?

It is done outside the customs area, one level above where you will arrive.

bb1987 May 20, 2013 8:38 am


Originally Posted by HomoEconomicus (Post 20780221)
There's a lot wrong with what you've said vis-à-vis Canada's immigration law. I understand your confusion, but one cannot be both a foreign national and a permanent resident, concurrently; nor, a citizen and permanent resident at the same time.

I am sure you are right as far as the language in Canada's immigration law is concerned. On the other hand, each person can have only one permanent residency, this is mainly for tax purposes, so in effect, each person, citizen, foreign national, or stateless person, still has to be a permanent resident, either in their own country or in another country, so classifying people as citizens vs permanent residents,vs foreign nationals (visitors) is technically incorrect, and I don't believe most other countries classify people in this manner. I think they should be called foreign nationals with permanent resident status.

eyeballer May 20, 2013 9:20 am

Quick question re: the Nexus enrollment center at YYZ.

Wife and I have our Nexus cards but no iris scans. We're arriving into YYZ at ~ 7pm on a Friday (on AA, T3). I see the office closes at 8pm so hoping to get over there for scans. We won't have checked bags.. is this feasible? What's the fastest way to get over there?

If not, we could do it on our way out as it's a Monday, but I'd rather get it out of the way if possible.

flyquiet May 20, 2013 12:13 pm


Originally Posted by bb1987 (Post 20780497)
I am sure you are right as far as the language in Canada's immigration law is concerned. On the other hand, each person can have only one permanent residency, this is mainly for tax purposes, so in effect, each person, citizen, foreign national, or stateless person, still has to be a permanent resident, either in their own country or in another country, so classifying people as citizens vs permanent residents,vs foreign nationals (visitors) is technically incorrect, and I don't believe most other countries classify people in this manner. I think they should be called foreign nationals with permanent resident status.

You're using the words "permanent resident" in the standard English way, but the term "Permanent Resident" is a special term in Canada. We used to call those people "Landed Immigrants" until Immigration retrained us.

I am not sure you are correct that one can have only one tax residency. If you do not sever your ties to Canada (i.e., keep a home here, retain your bank accounts, etc.), but reside in the USA for 200 days of the year, I believe you will be considered both a Canadian resident and a resident alien of the USA. I'm not sure that has any bearing on the Permanent Residency considered in the NEXUS definitions.

When the immigration people (either CBP talking about Canada, or Canada's own immigration people) are using terms that are special to them, they really should be capitalizing the words (as Permanent Resident, rather than permanent resident) to cue the reader to recognize that the use of the term should be accompanied by a reference to the definition section which defines Permanent Resident as a foreign national who holds status as a legal permanent resident under form ABC, etc.

In my opinion, it's not prudent to start reading things with standard English interpretations because you get into unintended extensions, such as "everyone has to be resident somewhere" leading to "John Doe is a permanent resident of Texas in the sense that he permanently resides there, although he is a Mexican national and the state of Texas is unaware of his residency."

When reading government documents and web pages, a single paragraph rarely stands alone, but has to be read in the context of definitions. They would help if they would capitalize the special defined terms, but if a policy hinges on interpretation of a particular word, it's worth checking for their definitions.


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