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flyquiet May 14, 2013 9:21 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20747042)
Your NEXUS card becomes invalid if your passport expires. It's not a "passport replacement", it's simply a document you can use in some places instead of presenting your passport.

So you definitely need to renew your passport before you fly.

AND you MUST login to GOES and update the passport information AND apparently visit the Canadian people to advise them as well, because it seems that it may or may not be sufficient to do one or the other only.

canadiancow May 14, 2013 9:22 am


Originally Posted by HookemHorns (Post 20748398)
Although I can't find any information on this in the official program guide, post 5742 seems to give anecdotal evidence that you are correct:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19895038-post5742.html

What is allowed is usually a small subset of what you can get away with.

I was told very sternly that the NEXUS card is only valid if I have a valid passport attached to my account.

If you try this, and fail, you're going to lose NEXUS, be denied entry, and they would be well within their right to charge you with "attempted unlawful entry" or something similar.

astroflyer May 14, 2013 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by HookemHorns (Post 20748398)
Although I can't find any information on this in the official program guide, post 5742 seems to give anecdotal evidence that you are correct:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19895038-post5742.html

Well, it's all just a little bit fuzzy. A Nexus card is indeed a valid WHTI travel document. You are definitely permitted to cross the land border with it. I'm not sure one needs a valid passport for that either. When flying, technically I think you may not need it, but I wouldn't fly without it. Not that I'm worried about being denied at the border, I'd be more worried about being denied boarding if the airline is confused.

Here's some documentation:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/whti-ivho/

CKDGM May 14, 2013 2:43 pm

From the Air Travel page on getyouhome.gov: (emphasis added)

When traveling by air between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean or Bermuda, you are required to present a U.S. passport, except as noted below. This applies to everyone including newborns, infants and children.

The only exceptions to this requirement are for:

U.S. citizens on active duty with the U.S. Armed Forces, traveling with military ID and travel orders
U.S. citizen merchant mariners traveling in conjunction with maritime business, with U.S. issued Merchant Mariner Document
Travelers with a NEXUS card used at a NEXUS kiosk at Canadian Preclearance airports
U.S. Lawful Permanent Residents with a Permanent Resident Card or other evidence of permanent residence status and required documentation; refugees and asylees with a Refugee Travel Document
So, in theory you can fly from the preclearance airports with just a NEXUS card as long as you use a NEXUS kiosk. Anyone want to bet their trip that the kiosks will be there and working that day? I don't, which is why I'll carry my passport as well.

(That's also assuming that the airline is willing to let you fly with just the card and that the CBP officers you deal with that day will know the law and apply it consistently. If you don't want to depend on those assumptions, bring the passport.)

HookemHorns May 14, 2013 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20749161)
What is allowed is usually a small subset of what you can get away with.

I was told very sternly that the NEXUS card is only valid if I have a valid passport attached to my account.

If you try this, and fail, you're going to lose NEXUS, be denied entry, and they would be well within their right to charge you with "attempted unlawful entry" or something similar.

In contrast, I asked the CBP agent at my interview the same question - my family of 4 has different passport expiry dates, and I was wondering if I could still use NEXUS for land crossings while one of the passports was out for update (eg: invalid, not registered, or expired). He said that was fine - just bring the new passport by whenever (no urgency).

Given some of the horror stories, and complete lack of any formal documentation on the subject, I have chosen to err on the side of caution and NOT use NEXUS with expired passports. I wish I could get a formal answer on this one, but the only documentation I've seen is this snipit from a fairly dated CBSA webpage:

NEXUS members who are permanent residents of Canada or the U.S. are still required to travel with a passport and proof of permanent residence, and may be requested to present these documents to the officer upon arrival at the border.

Hellfire May 14, 2013 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20747042)
Your NEXUS card becomes invalid if your passport expires. It's not a "passport replacement", it's simply a document you can use in some places instead of presenting your passport.

So you definitely need to renew your passport before you fly.

What is allowed is usually a small subset of what you can get away with.

I was told very sternly that the NEXUS card is only valid if I have a valid passport attached to my account.

If you try this, and fail, you're going to lose NEXUS, be denied entry, and they would be well within their right to charge you with "attempted unlawful entry" or something similar.

I got my Nexus card approved *WITHOUT* a valid passport. Currently there is no passport at all attached to my account.

Hellfire May 14, 2013 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by HookemHorns (Post 20751790)

Given some of the horror stories, and complete lack of any formal documentation on the subject, I have chosen to err on the side of caution and NOT use NEXUS with expired passports. I wish I could get a formal answer on this one, but the only documentation I've seen is this snipit from a fairly dated CBSA webpage:

NEXUS members who are permanent residents of Canada or the U.S. are still required to travel with a passport and proof of permanent residence, and may be requested to present these documents to the officer upon arrival at the border.

You've answered your own question.... are you a CITIZEN or a Permanent Resident? If you are a CITIZEN you don't need a passport and proof of PR.

There is a difference between Citizen and PR

bb1987 May 15, 2013 7:23 am

I initially got Global Entry back in 2009 before Nexus had GE benefits. So I enroled in both programs seperately. I am wondering when it comes time to renew if I should just renew Nexus since it has GE benefits anyway. Is there any reason why a seperate GE membership has any advantages?

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astroflyer May 15, 2013 9:34 am


Originally Posted by bb1987 (Post 20754426)
I initially got Global Entry back in 2009 before Nexus had GE benefits. So I enroled in both programs seperately. I am wondering when it comes time to renew if I should just renew Nexus since it has GE benefits anyway. Is there any reason why a seperate GE membership has any advantages?

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The only reason I can see is that Nexus renewal might require an interview at a Canadian port of entry. I got global entry first as that didn't require the trip to Canada for the interview. Oddly enough, I ended up living in Canada, so I had to get Nexus separately.

DLFan2 May 15, 2013 10:05 am


Originally Posted by bb1987 (Post 20754426)
I initially got Global Entry back in 2009 before Nexus had GE benefits. So I enroled in both programs seperately. I am wondering when it comes time to renew if I should just renew Nexus since it has GE benefits anyway. Is there any reason why a seperate GE membership has any advantages?

.

If you renew NEXUS, acquiring GE benefits with it, there will be no need to have a separate GE membership. Not only no need, but also no way. Plus you will save $$$.

I had GE first, then added the "new" NEXUS (with GE). My NEXUS card has the same number that was on my GE card. I was told that the moment I activated my NEXUS card, the GE card would become void.

Bamaler May 16, 2013 9:02 am

anyone in Canada willing to phone nexus for me?
 
604-666-4598

Are they open this Sunday, a holiday weekend, for walk in iris scans?
This is their office in YVR, open 8-6 everyday according to the cbsa website

crimsona May 16, 2013 11:41 am

The girlfriend just renewed her driver's license, got issued a temp paper one but not yet received her new one. We're going to the US for the long weekend, does she need to update her info at the Nexus Office twice? I'll be the one driving

joseagc May 17, 2013 9:15 am

Canadian PR now but got here as Student
 
Hi,
I've been looking everywhere to answer this question but there is no info. Hope you can help me.

I am a Canadian Permanent Resident (with pr card since Jan 2012) but arrived to Canada in 2008 with a Student Permit. I've been living here since and I am wondering if I can apply and get the Nexus card?

It says you must be a resident for more than 3 years, but it doesn't explain what happen if before I was a student and then my status changed. My understanding is that I can apply, am I correct?

Any experience or comments?

Thanks everyone!
JG

DLFan2 May 17, 2013 9:41 am


Originally Posted by joseagc (Post 20766423)
Hi,
I've been looking everywhere to answer this question but there is no info. Hope you can help me.

I am a Canadian Permanent Resident (with pr card since Jan 2012) but arrived to Canada in 2008 with a Student Permit. I've been living here since and I am wondering if I can apply and get the Nexus card?

It says you must be a resident for more than 3 years, but it doesn't explain what happen if before I was a student and then my status changed. My understanding is that I can apply, am I correct?

Any experience or comments?

Thanks everyone!
JG

Just a comment. I believe the intent of the term "resident for more than 3 years" means resident status, i.e. allowed to remain permanently. If you entered as a student, your status probably did not entitle you to remain permanently.

I suggest you check with NEXUS directly. Much more reliable than various opinions from unofficial sources.

HomoEconomicus May 17, 2013 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by joseagc (Post 20766423)
I am a Canadian Permanent Resident (with pr card since Jan 2012) but arrived to Canada in 2008 with a Student Permit. I've been living here since and I am wondering if I can apply and get the Nexus card?

It says you must be a resident for more than 3 years, but it doesn't explain what happen if before I was a student and then my status changed. My understanding is that I can apply, am I correct?

The Presentation of Persons (2003) Regulations set out the Canadian requirements for the Nexus programme. Paragraph 6.1(a) states that the requirements of paragraphs 6(a) to (f) must be met. Paragraph 6(f) deals with residency and states that one must have "resided only in one or more of the following countries during the three-year period preceding the day on which the application was received: (i) Canada or the United States, or (ii) [exception for Canadian and US diplomats serving abroad]." As long as you meet the other requirements of the programme, the fact that you were on a study permit for part of that three-year period should not matter.

I should note that Customs Notice 12-020 does indicate some changes to the residency requirement for the Nexus programme, but those changes would not pertain to you. In addition, it's not clear to me whether or not the changes put forth in CN12-020 were actually effected; they don't appear to have been gazetted, nor are they reflected in the regulation published on the Department of Justice website (current to 29 April 2013).


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