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lcohen999 Dec 8, 2008 10:04 am

It is a shame really, drop off them off just before the line, pick 'em up after.

Seems to make sense, but rumour has it, as someone has said that they do watch for it.

So it aint worth it

bcrdukes Dec 8, 2008 6:36 pm

Dully noted. :D

uselessheadrest Dec 8, 2008 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by dcrombie (Post 10874010)
I believe that you used to be able to do that, but I think that loophole was not only closed, but that they watch for it and it's terms for having your card revoked. I read that on a thread here recently I believe, but I'm sure someone can post the language.

I'm pretty sure they specifically mentioned this in my interview (that it's grounds for having your card revoked).

guessaaa Dec 9, 2008 3:21 am


Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 10873043)
Has anybody ever tried this before?

Can I drop my non-NEXUS passenger off to do a walk-in border clearance while I drive into the NEXUS lane and then pick them up at the other side?

I haven't tried it personally, but I called the American Customs Office at Blaine specifically to ask about this last spring. They said that you can do it but:

a) the person walking through must have their belongings with them
b) the person walking through must start walking before the traffic queue, before the area parallel to the Canadian booths, and especially before the actual border posts signifying the line
c) the person walking through must have appropriate ID/passport with them
d) the person walking through must be picked up well away from the border

So really, it's not worth the walking unless maybe when lineups are over an hour.

Shareholder Dec 9, 2008 4:49 am

Stupid TSA at LAX (UA Terminal)
 
On the TSA web site the first piece of government issued photo ID illustrated as being acceptable for air travel is the Nexus card. Despite this, yesterday morning the screeners (and supervisors) at LAX refused to accept my Nexus crd -- which I've used at the same screening point dozens of times before and at just about every other US airport -- as acceptable ID for this purpose. (This happened once before at PDX and in a letter back to me I was assured I could continue to use my Nexus card.)

I even showed a print out of the web page but to no avail. I can only marvel at how some of these these people get their jobs. They just toss off: "Well we've never seen these cards down here!" If there was a dumbness test for the American educational system this crew would represent it. Time for another letter to Washington.

goaliemn Dec 9, 2008 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 10879552)
On the TSA web site the first piece of government issued photo ID illustrated as being acceptable for air travel is the Nexus card. Despite this, yesterday morning the screeners (and supervisors) at LAX refused to accept my Nexus crd -- which I've used at the same screening point dozens of times before and at just about every other US airport -- as acceptable ID for this purpose.

despite the fact I don't care for the TSA, the nexus card on their website/pdf doesn't look like the one I have. I think its a picture of the new ones, so they may not know about the older style..

Having said that, I've used it for ID, but mainly at MSP where alot of people do travel to canada regularly so they probably seem them more often.

ben1040 Dec 9, 2008 8:38 am

I handed mine to TSA in STL and was asked for a passport or driver's license.

I told him it said on their website they were accepted, and it was issued by his own federal agency, but he told me "these look different, so we've got to double check them."

Hopefully the new ones look more secure than a Costco card. They really do look like something you could print off on your own.

lcohen999 Dec 9, 2008 8:55 am

I am just wondering, on a tangent.

Is there a coralation between the number of on duty policy officers in the customs hall and the US nexus booths being down?

Vasbyte Dec 9, 2008 9:22 am

Something new with Nexus?
 
Coming through YYZ T1 NEXUS this morning was told by the agent collecting the blue cards and NEXUS printout that 'you MUST have your NEXUS card out and visible'

Have used NEXUS at YYZ T1 many times and this is a first for me ...

Any idea if this is something new or just some rogue officer getting up on the wrong side of bed this morning? :rolleyes:

ALW Dec 9, 2008 11:02 am

There were reports (including from me) of the US agents asking for Nexus card and BP, then stamping the BP. Seems to be a new policy.


They said you may still have some bags/luggage/items belonging to the person you dropped off, so technically, that's not eligible for bringing in on your nexus card.
Of course that's not the point, if you're not supposed to have items belonging to that person and you do, you've broken the rules. If you don't, you haven't. "You might" have that person's bag is true whether they are with you at all.

And interesting this came up, a while back we asked a US officer at the Nexus booth (land crossing), "my mother asked us to bring her shoes with us but we didn't think we were allowed to, would that have been okay?" and he looked at us like we were idiots, "of course you could, you can bring anything you want."

=aw

YVR Cockroach Dec 9, 2008 11:16 am

Maybe the next person who goes to a land crossing can ask about the non-Nexus passenger drop off. I've only done it once at Peace Arch (just over 2 years ago) when the wait was easily 1/2 hr.

On that note, a colleague of my partner lost his Nexus card 3-4 years back by not having his non-Nexus passenger take all his belongings (just getting lazy from doing weekly commutes from Seattle). Clear violation of the rules.

margarita girl Dec 9, 2008 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by Vasbyte (Post 10880766)
Coming through YYZ T1 NEXUS this morning was told by the agent collecting the blue cards and NEXUS printout that 'you MUST have your NEXUS card out and visible'

Have used NEXUS at YYZ T1 many times and this is a first for me ...

Any idea if this is something new or just some rogue officer getting up on the wrong side of bed this morning? :rolleyes:

This is the policy with US Customs officers at YUL. You MUST SHOW your Nexus card. I've never travelled into YUL with Nexus, so not sure if it's the same policy with Cdn Customs officers.

ypqRD Dec 9, 2008 1:21 pm

I usually cross the border in YYZ T1 or in YVR. This trip started in YYZ T3 (first time in years I've been in there) and for the first time I was asked for my card. The officer's tone led me to think he doesn't expect every Nexus person to show it, but he wanted to see mine for some reason. He then stamped my boarding pass (no clue why) and sent me on my way. I still saved at least 20 minutes compared to waiting in line like everyone else.

yyzvoyageur Dec 9, 2008 6:20 pm

So just keep your Nexus card readily accessible until you're out. Seems pretty simple.

emcampbe Dec 9, 2008 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by ypqRD (Post 10882407)
I usually cross the border in YYZ T1 or in YVR. This trip started in YYZ T3 (first time in years I've been in there) and for the first time I was asked for my card. The officer's tone led me to think he doesn't expect every Nexus person to show it, but he wanted to see mine for some reason. He then stamped my boarding pass (no clue why) and sent me on my way. I still saved at least 20 minutes compared to waiting in line like everyone else.

I've crossed at YYZ T1 about 1 a month for the last couple of years, and I have never been asked to show my NEXUS card when handing in my customs card. Occasionally, they will take my boarding pass and stamp it. The only time I have been asked to see my Nexus card is the twice or so that I was randomed going into the US. I know my parents just went through T1 about a week and a half ago, and they were not asked to show it either.


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 10879552)
On the TSA web site the first piece of government issued photo ID illustrated as being acceptable for air travel is the Nexus card. Despite this, yesterday morning the screeners (and supervisors) at LAX refused to accept my Nexus crd -- which I've used at the same screening point dozens of times before and at just about every other US airport -- as acceptable ID for this purpose. (This happened once before at PDX and in a letter back to me I was assured I could continue to use my Nexus card.)

I think its hit or miss with the TSA people who know that a Nexus card is valid ID. For a long time, even at security A1 at Newark, the one leading to the Air Canada gates wouldn't accept it, at least without argument, but in recent months they have without a problem. At ORD, on the other hand, I have never been able to get security at T1 (UA) or T2 (AC) to accept it - they have always asked for a DL or passport.

In the beginning, I wanted to deal with it then until they accepted it, now, I realize it doesn't really matter, and I either just use a DL (since security doesn't need a passport) or show my Nexus, and if they say I can't use it, I just show them something else that I know is valid. Its not worth my time and energy to argue it - its much easier to just get on with the rest of the process then spend time educating the TSA officers - especially in terminals that AC doesn't use.


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