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"License to smuggle" were the exact words this Ms. Congeniality, a Canadian Border Agent, used when I was getting finalized at YYZ.
On another note, I heard from US DHS that the new NEXUS cards should start being mailed mid-December. |
Originally Posted by Sanosuke
(Post 10619221)
The answer would be in the country-of-passport acquisition. The smile you might get when you go to Europe, might be based on the fact that you hold an EU or equalivent passport that allows you access to an non-EU country.
To say that every EU immigration inspector should smile and pat you on the back while saying "Welcome home", is akin to saying that CBSA should pat you on the _BUTT_ and say "good trip ? SECONDARY!" a) I hold a EU passport, and I'm talking about entering EU countries; b) I didn't say what every EU immigration inspector SHOULD do, I am describing my own experience entering the UK. Smile/welcome home. All other EU states - zero questions. Enter Canada on a Canadian passport, let's intrude into people's private life. So nothing is akin to nothing, as you obviously didn't read my original post. Sorry, but that response of yours wasn't what most of us were looking for. :D Honesty in your RESPONSE to the customs officer is _WHAT_ they want to hear more than your condricatory statements in reply to the questions. Maybe you hadn't thought about that, Simon. I, and many others who have posted, resent being asked questions that they have no business knowing the answers to. People shouldn't have their journals read, their degrees questioned, their medical history reviewed, etc. when re-entering their own country. You want to search for customs overages, go right ahead. For the rest of it, they should mind their own business. Simon |
Originally Posted by Simon
(Post 10619399)
This doesn't make any sense.
a) I hold a EU passport, and I'm talking about entering EU countries; b) I didn't say what every EU immigration inspector SHOULD do, I am describing my own experience entering the UK. Smile/welcome home. All other EU states - zero questions. Enter Canada on a Canadian passport, let's intrude into people's private life. a) You stated that you entered the EU on your EU passport. The response you got from the inspector was precisely the response you got for using your EU passport. They rarely look at the passports for EU passport holders from what I've been told. b) You may be welcomed home upon entry to the EU, but you can't expect the same from Canada, since it may be a former British commonwealth, and it can't be expected to say "welcome home, have a fun trip home," to everyone that enters Canada on a Canadian Passport. (Remember our country isn't one nationality, but MANY nationalities in essence, if you haven't forgotten that one.) So nothing is akin to nothing, as you obviously didn't read my original post. How is it that you purport to speak on behalf of "most of us" ? Once again, what are you talking about? I don't give them contradictory answers. I answered what I was asked, pre-NEXUS. I still do at the land borders, where the agents have far less attitude. I, and many others who have posted, resent being asked questions that they have no business knowing the answers to. People shouldn't have their journals read, their degrees questioned, their medical history reviewed, etc. when re-entering their own country. You want to search for customs overages, go right ahead. For the rest of it, they should mind their own business. Simon Sanosuke! |
I've NEVER been asked a single question by Immigration entering any country in the last 10 years except for Canada and the US. Yes, the US and Canada have a major axe to grind with travellers it seems. Only these two countries have such invasive immigration agents. Canada seems to model theirs from the US and goes one step beyond.
The only other times it's been on par with the US for me is: a) Entering Japan for 3 hours while transiting Narita (e.g. went Landside) - was meeting a friend, the immigration agent asked why I was going landside considering I was flying out in 3 hours - after I explained he was fine with it - he was more worried I would miss my connection that any suspicion. b) Entering Taiwan where I didn't fill out the hotel info on the landing card once. Was asked how long I was in Taiwan and where I was staying. That's it folks - Out of entering and exiting foreign countries more than 200 times I've not been questioned like in the US and Canada. Even China doesn't ask a single thing as long as you have a valid visa. In most countries you never get spoken to at all - Before Japan had the fingerprint and photo machine - they never spoke. Now the most you get out is "Press down on the fingerprint reader". I lived in the UK and *NEVER* got asked anything entering there and entering into other EU countries. It's simple they scan your passport and know if you are wanted by them or other EU governments or Interpol. Although entering some EU countries they barely even look at your passport cover if it's an EU passport. I've been stopped by Japanese and Korean customs when dragging demo equipment but never had anything searched, just confirming that what I bring in leaves with me. Contrast that with Canada who assumes any US Resident is working illegally in Canada and the US believes everyone traveling out of the country and coming back is up to no good. |
Originally Posted by NickP 1K
(Post 10619857)
It's simple they scan your passport and know if you are wanted by them or other EU governments or Interpol. Although entering some EU countries they barely even look at your passport cover if it's an EU passport.
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Originally Posted by Sanosuke
First off I'll point out why Canada Customs and EU customs work differently.
a) You stated that you entered the EU on your EU passport. The response you got from the inspector was precisely the response you got for using your EU passport. They rarely look at the passports for EU passport holders from what I've been told. b) You may be welcomed home upon entry to the EU, but you can't expect the same from Canada, since it may be a former British commonwealth, and it can't be expected to say "welcome home, have a fun trip home," to everyone that enters Canada on a Canadian Passport. (Remember our country isn't one nationality, but MANY nationalities in essence, if you haven't forgotten that one.) You should be expected to be welcomed into the UK because you have a UK passport. You should not be expected to be welcomed into Canada because you have a Canadian passport and lots of people emigrated here. So it is natural that Canadian BSOs ask inane questions because we are a multicultural country. :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by sanosuke
How is it that you purport to speak on behalf of "most of us" ?
Shouldn't it be clear? Its called objectivity, Simon. "I'm being objective (according to me) and so pretty much everyone else agrees with me, because it only makes sense." Once again, your attitude towards the officer will dicate the attitude you receive from that officer when you approach them. Its called courtsey and one shouldn't have to tread on the officer's toes each time they approach the officer. If you hold something back, then thats the reaction you will get -- indimination in the form of more questioning. So why are you being a stone wall when they request to look at your stuff even if it may not be something they are interested in reading about. Its nice to know that you with other posters are resisting customs' efforts to be professional and goodwilling to the public, precisely the effect of fear they want from the travelling public who will end up refusing to submit to searches and thus getting arrested/jailed for it. Is that what you want, Simon? On the one hand, customs is making "efforts to be professional and goodwilling [sic] to the public" and on the other this generates "precisely the effect of fear they want." :-: I HAVEN'T SAID I'M BEING A STONE WALL. I RESENT THE QUESTIONS. THEY HAVE NO REASON TO BE DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I DON'T TELL THEM TO GET STUFFED. Perhaps we should support the establishment of a dictatorship with secret police, and that would be ok, so long as we're nice to the officers. :rolleyes: |
b) You may be welcomed home upon entry to the EU, but you can't expect the same from Canada, since it may be a former British commonwealth, and it can't be expected to say "welcome home, have a fun trip home," to everyone that enters Canada on a Canadian Passport. (Remember our country isn't one nationality, but MANY nationalities in essence, if you haven't forgotten that one.) "Our country [Canada] isn't one nationality"? I don't understand this at all. Especially not in the context of the EU members being moreso. =aw |
Originally Posted by FamilyFour
;10619336... At our interview, we were told to split up. One adult, one child do retina scans and walk through. Other adult and little one do the crew line up and skip retina scans. Do we fill out two declaration cards? ...
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NEXUS at YYZ US Connections
In another thread, SYM says that US Connections (Domestic-US) now has a NEXUS machine. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...08&postcount=8 I don't remember it being posted to this thread.
Are there any issues with using this instead of going through sector H? Thanks! =aw |
i did my application 10 days through GOES and was apporved already...seems quick. I have my interview next week, in Ottawa.
PLanning alot of trips to Vegas in the next few yrs. might come in handy! BTW------ this is my first post . |
Originally Posted by kennyg1966
(Post 10625554)
i did my application 10 days through GOES and was apporved already...seems quick. I have my interview next week, in Ottawa.
PLanning alot of trips to Vegas in the next few yrs. might come in handy! BTW------ this is my first post . |
Originally Posted by ALW
(Post 10621594)
In another thread, SYM says that US Connections (Domestic-US) now has a NEXUS machine. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...08&postcount=8 I don't remember it being posted to this thread.
Are there any issues with using this instead of going through sector H? Thanks! =aw |
Thanks, that's worth trying. How many NEXUS machines are there at US Connections?
Sector H is the entrance to US PFI for non-connecting passengers. =aw |
Originally Posted by lcohen999
(Post 10626440)
Welcome to FT!
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Originally Posted by taupo
(Post 10616486)
My cynicism had a hunch where the report came from. It proved correct.
Whining from the union to try and create/protect more jobs in order to boost the union's fee base. |
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