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PhotoJim Dec 23, 2010 9:56 am


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 15510429)
There you go, fixed it for you.



Ouch - sorry to hear about anyone flying DL.

And Delta's big hub at MSP doesn't have Global Entry yet either. Hopefully soon.

WR Cage Dec 23, 2010 10:42 am


Originally Posted by tentseller (Post 15509910)
.... As a Canadian passport holder I am an Alien and has to use the Alien section...


Unlesss its a specific airport situation, as a Canadian you can use the USA CBP primary inspection lanes. I have done this many times at EWR, SFO, and LAX.

That said I do have to ignore the line dragons quite a few times. They tend to direct Canadians over to the Alien lines. Occaisionally there is an education process to be conducted on the spot and sometimes I just have tell the line dragon to bugger off (make sure the line dragon is not wearing a US CBP uniform before telling them to pound sand.

okazon69 Dec 23, 2010 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by YEG Guy (Post 15511349)
Unlesss its a specific airport situation, as a Canadian you can use the USA CBP primary inspection lanes. I have done this many times at EWR, SFO, and LAX.

Do you have anything to document this statement? It certainly would save a lot of time.

emcampbe Dec 23, 2010 3:21 pm

I think I've heard this too, somewhere. I'm dual, but if a Canadian citizen only, I would be a bit reluctant to use the US only line. I get that as a Canadian citizen, you don't have to do fingerprint/photo like citizens of other countries. But I suspect its not unheard of to have an anal agent who would use this as an excuse to send you to secondary (or back to the other line).

After all, don't forget - up until about 5 years ago or so, they used to (I don't think they really do it anymore) split up US citizens (or residents, I don't really remember which) vs. all others in pre-clearance, at least they did at YYZ (and YVR too, I think).


Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 15512770)
Do you have anything to document this statement? It certainly would save a lot of time.

If you're a Nexus member anyway, probably doesn't matter too much anymore. Just make sure they have all your prints on file, and go ahead and use GE.

tentseller Dec 23, 2010 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by YEG Guy (Post 15511349)
Unlesss its a specific airport situation, as a Canadian you can use the USA CBP primary inspection lanes. I have done this many times at EWR, SFO, and LAX.

That said I do have to ignore the line dragons quite a few times. They tend to direct Canadians over to the Alien lines. Occaisionally there is an education process to be conducted on the spot and sometimes I just have tell the line dragon to bugger off (make sure the line dragon is not wearing a US CBP uniform before telling them to pound sand.


Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 15512770)
Do you have anything to document this statement? It certainly would save a lot of time.

I have asked nicely but was still diverted to the Alien lane. However at LAX and DTW after the US gorup was cleared the supervisor came over to the alien section and ask if there were any Canadians. He wisked us to the US section and we were process in a jiffy.

If there is and .gov site that put this in writing it would be great for other Canucks travelling with me who does not have Nexus nor the privilege of riding in the front of the plane.

todd-r Dec 23, 2010 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by tentseller (Post 15513228)
If there is and .gov site that put this in writing it would be great for other Canucks travelling with me who does not have Nexus nor the privilege of riding in the front of the plane.

Don't think you'll find it in writing anywhere. It really is hit and miss. I do still ask every time I fly into the USA via a third country. Most recently - PDX = No, MIA = Yes (in MIA they were actually making constant announcements telling Canadian passport holders to use US line.

Oh, and I forgot about LAS. Arrived on a PAL flight from Vancouver that had not pre-cleared @ YVR. So, on arrival I politely asked the agent directing everyone to the foreign line if Canadians could use the US line and she looked at me like I was from Mars and sternly said, "NO!"

WR Cage Dec 23, 2010 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 15512770)
Do you have anything to document this statement? It certainly would save a lot of time.

I have no government official documentation that provides proof Canadians can use the US line at US CBP.

I took the idea from Flyertalk and applied it to my trips inbound from Australia and times when not using preclearence.

However one thing I do have to say, ignore the line checkers as much as possible. They are employed by the airport not US CBP and are almost always unaware that Canadians can use the US CBP line instead of Alien line. I have yet to be refused by when actually infront of a US CBP Officer, however exceptions could happen. Worst that happens is oyu get sent to the Alien line anyway.

Ken hAAmer Dec 23, 2010 4:43 pm

I'm pretty certain there is no official policy that Canadians can use US lines.

I rather suspect that it's a case of practical minded agents figuring out a way to optimize and expedite the process as much as possible. That is, it's sensible agents bending the rules every so slightly to make things better for everyone, including all those non-Canadian/non-US travellers who now won't have to wait for the Canadians in the foreigners' line up.

jlisi984 Dec 23, 2010 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by todd-r (Post 15513272)
Don't think you'll find it in writing anywhere. It really is hit and miss. I do still ask every time I fly into the USA via a third country. Most recently - PDX = No, MIA = Yes (in MIA they were actually making constant announcements telling Canadian passport holders to use US line.

Oh, and I forgot about LAS. Arrived on a PAL flight from Vancouver that had not pre-cleared @ YVR. So, on arrival I politely asked the agent directing everyone to the foreign line if Canadians could use the US line and she looked at me like I was from Mars and sternly said, "NO!"

What's PAL?

Simon Dec 23, 2010 5:11 pm


Originally Posted by Ken hAAmer (Post 15513513)
I'm pretty certain there is no official policy that Canadians can use US lines.

I rather suspect that it's a case of practical minded agents figuring out a way to optimize and expedite the process as much as possible. That is, it's sensible agents bending the rules every so slightly to make things better for everyone, including all those non-Canadian/non-US travellers who now won't have to wait for the Canadians in the foreigners' line up.

Quite. I got in trouble for doing this in DUB. CBP guy threw me to the back of the alien line.

Simon

calgary_jay Dec 23, 2010 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by jlisi984 (Post 15513641)
What's PAL?

http://www.philippineairlines.com/home/home.jsp

jlisi984 Dec 23, 2010 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by calgary_jay (Post 15513695)

OK, I thought so, but why do they fly YVR-LAS? And why don't they pre-clear?

calgary_jay Dec 23, 2010 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by jlisi984 (Post 15513745)
OK, I thought so, but why do they fly YVR-LAS? And why don't they pre-clear?

its a continuation of thier MNL-YVR flight. Leaves YVR from international section, those passengers continuing to LAS and not getting off at YVR don't leave thier plane and don't clear customs in YVR...and passengers departing from YVR leave from International wing and don't pre-clear customs.

One of those rare 5th freedom flights. CX also flies YVR-JFK similarly.

Ex-Canada, I'm only familiar with the two from YVR...not sure if there are others ex-Canada?

okazon69 Dec 23, 2010 6:33 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 15513075)
If you're a Nexus member anyway, probably doesn't matter too much anymore. Just make sure they have all your prints on file, and go ahead and use GE.

Well that's ok if you're a US citizen. I suppose eventually they may allow Canadians to use GE as well.

BlondeBomber Dec 23, 2010 7:23 pm

read post 2272:

"Effective December 15, 2010 the Global Entry program was expanded to include Canadian Nexus holders;
They are aware that they Global Entry website still says you need to be a US Citizen, but it should be changed soon and is wrong;
You should stop by a Nexus office to get the Global Entry stick for the back of your passport; however, you can use Global Entry prior to getting on, but you may need to quickly see an officer so they can check the system to see that you're eligible;
It appears that not everyone may yet have this. I was told that if I could see the notice when I logged into GOES then I could use Global Entry, but that not everyone had received it. "


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