Global Entry Denial and Recourse
Jan 3, 2016, 3:30 pm
#167
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Warsaw,IN
Posts: 33
I have heard stories about denial due to an erroneous information (not a willfull false information) such as a wrong zip code (I just quoted an example) entered for a previous address of residence or something similar...I have an international travel coming up soon, while I have all my travel documents in order I would like to have this GE card as well. But my worry is, with the loads of information I had to provide a small typo error should not be haunting me...That is my worry..I sincerely thank you for the response.
Jan 3, 2016, 3:38 pm
#168
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
First and foremost, if your GE is denied, you will still be able to travel internationally and, of course, have access to standard CBP facilities.
Second, as with any government form, take your time to go over it carefully. Triple check everything. If you take the process seriously and don't multi-task while doing it, you won't have any problems.
Third, the people who are denied GE for seemingly minor issues, typically fail to correct them during their interview. Nobody really cares about your unpaid parking ticket from 12 years ago. But, CBP does care that you say that you don't have any when you are asked about them. So, during the interview, if you are asked to verify specific information, there is a reason you are being asked the questions.
But, bottom line is that you should go ahead and apply.
Second, as with any government form, take your time to go over it carefully. Triple check everything. If you take the process seriously and don't multi-task while doing it, you won't have any problems.
Third, the people who are denied GE for seemingly minor issues, typically fail to correct them during their interview. Nobody really cares about your unpaid parking ticket from 12 years ago. But, CBP does care that you say that you don't have any when you are asked about them. So, during the interview, if you are asked to verify specific information, there is a reason you are being asked the questions.
But, bottom line is that you should go ahead and apply.
Mar 7, 2016, 4:59 pm
#171
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
what are my options if i get denied? does anyone have any experience with this? help
I had my interview today for Global Entry, i disclosed my convictions from when i was younger for a reckless driving charge (19) and a DUI (22), i was told by the officer that my application would be denied, im currently 29 years old... has anyone had any experience with this? im really hoping my past lapses in judgement can be forgiven and i can be judged for the person i am today... what are my chances?
Mar 7, 2016, 5:12 pm
#172
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You can appeal the CBP denial to the Ombudsman (see instruction on the GOES website). It may take 6-9 months.
But, don't expect a positive result. Two serious charges only three years apart, especially the DUI only 7 years ago, are not the kind of thing which make CBP Officers hit the "approved" button. Prepare yourself for the likelihood that when you do hear back, that it will be a "no" and be really pleased if it is a "yes."
If you do appeal, keep it short and to the point and perhaps supply 2-3 short and to the point letters from people who know you and who can talk about the "person you are now."
I'm presuming that the "person you are now" means a spotless record, e.g., not so much as a speeding ticket since that DUI.
But, don't expect a positive result. Two serious charges only three years apart, especially the DUI only 7 years ago, are not the kind of thing which make CBP Officers hit the "approved" button. Prepare yourself for the likelihood that when you do hear back, that it will be a "no" and be really pleased if it is a "yes."
If you do appeal, keep it short and to the point and perhaps supply 2-3 short and to the point letters from people who know you and who can talk about the "person you are now."
I'm presuming that the "person you are now" means a spotless record, e.g., not so much as a speeding ticket since that DUI.
Mar 7, 2016, 5:17 pm
#173
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
You can appeal the CBP denial to the Ombudsman (see instruction on the GOES website). It may take 6-9 months.
But, don't expect a positive result. Two serious charges only three years apart, especially the DUI only 7 years ago, are not the kind of thing which make CBP Officers hit the "approved" button. Prepare yourself for the likelihood that when you do hear back, that it will be a "no" and be really pleased if it is a "yes."
If you do appeal, keep it short and to the point and perhaps supply 2-3 short and to the point letters from people who know you and who can talk about the "person you are now."
I'm presuming that the "person you are now" means a spotless record, e.g., not so much as a speeding ticket since that DUI.
But, don't expect a positive result. Two serious charges only three years apart, especially the DUI only 7 years ago, are not the kind of thing which make CBP Officers hit the "approved" button. Prepare yourself for the likelihood that when you do hear back, that it will be a "no" and be really pleased if it is a "yes."
If you do appeal, keep it short and to the point and perhaps supply 2-3 short and to the point letters from people who know you and who can talk about the "person you are now."
I'm presuming that the "person you are now" means a spotless record, e.g., not so much as a speeding ticket since that DUI.
yea, no speeding tickets or anything, those are the only blemishes on my record, im hoping they can chalk it up to just being young and stupid and look past it.
Mar 7, 2016, 5:20 pm
#174
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Indianapolis
Programs: Hilton-Diamond Lifetime Platinum AA UA, WN-CP, SPG Gold.
Posts: 7,377
Apply for a TSA Pre Check and enjoy the ride 90% of the time.
Lot of DUI's out there.
I stop at 2 drinks, just lucky...
Sorry did not know about the DUI, many of my friends have received them, it is a revenue thing with many cities.
Lot of DUI's out there.
I stop at 2 drinks, just lucky...
Sorry did not know about the DUI, many of my friends have received them, it is a revenue thing with many cities.
Mar 7, 2016, 7:13 pm
#176
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA Gold. UA Silver, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt (Lifetime Diamond downgraded to Explorist)
Posts: 6,776
Yes that is your option. Not to sound critical but GE is a trusted traveler program and has requirements to select people for this privilege. I understand you've reformed but that is something you will have to prove to them.
Did you disclose these felonies when you applied or did you only bring it up at the interview?
Did you disclose these felonies when you applied or did you only bring it up at the interview?
Mar 7, 2016, 7:25 pm
#177
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
Yes that is your option. Not to sound critical but GE is a trusted traveler program and has requirements to select people for this privilege. I understand you've reformed but that is something you will have to prove to them.
Did you disclose these felonies when you applied or did you only bring it up at the interview?
Did you disclose these felonies when you applied or did you only bring it up at the interview?
Mar 7, 2016, 7:30 pm
#178
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
OP applied for GE. Not sure how Pre-Check will help him at CBP on entry to the US.
Mar 7, 2016, 7:57 pm
#179
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
what really gets me is that i was conditionally approved and waited for this interview, why would they conditionally approve me and deny me if i disclosed everything
Last edited by bryanad86; Mar 7, 2016 at 8:31 pm
Mar 7, 2016, 8:49 pm
#180
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York, NY
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Posts: 6,776
It's the gov't if they made sense it would be amazing. As said before be ready for a denial but do the appeal. You've been a good citizen after 2 mistakes. That's what you have to get them to consider. Some CBP officers are very stringent and others more big picture.
I did an appeal after being denied because I was stupid and didn't hold back my opinion of DHS and was granted GE and now have Nexus. It will take time but give it a chance.
I did an appeal after being denied because I was stupid and didn't hold back my opinion of DHS and was granted GE and now have Nexus. It will take time but give it a chance.
Last edited by Yoshi212; Mar 7, 2016 at 8:59 pm Reason: correct spelling.