Traveling with NEXUS without a Passport
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http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/planning-a-trip/international-travel/traveling-from-the-u-s.html
"A passport is required for ALL international travel." (emphasis in original)
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Delta's documented policy is "passport required", so they'd be a poor choice of operating carrier if one had to fly US/CA without a passport.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...m-the-u-s.html
"A passport is required for ALL international travel." (emphasis in original)
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...m-the-u-s.html
"A passport is required for ALL international travel." (emphasis in original)
#138
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Delta's documented policy is "passport required", so they'd be a poor choice of operating carrier if one had to fly US/CA without a passport.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...m-the-u-s.html
"A passport is required for ALL international travel." (emphasis in original)
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...m-the-u-s.html
"A passport is required for ALL international travel." (emphasis in original)
#139
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Well boys, It's time to revive this thread again. I'm flying Thursday from YVR to LAX, and my passport is in the middle of being renewed as this trip was unexpected. I'll post the results of flying with Nexus only, but I plan to dress my best and take a photocopy of my birth certificate and drivers license, and print out the Air Canada travel document requirements to help if agents insist for my passport.
#140
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Well boys, It's time to revive this thread again. I'm flying Thursday from YVR to LAX, and my passport is in the middle of being renewed as this trip was unexpected. I'll post the results of flying with Nexus only, but I plan to dress my best and take a photocopy of my birth certificate and drivers license, and print out the Air Canada travel document requirements to help if agents insist for my passport.
#141
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Yep. Typing this from the terminal, I made it through easily, though I had an issue scanning nexus at the global entry machine so the guy at customs knew I had no passport. He notified me that the nexus rules require a passport but he let me go as I was a minor when I got nexus and that was ample reason for him to let me through without taking my card from me. I'll have to be careful coming back in to Canada.
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Coming back to Canada is the easy part since the Nexus kiosk won't even accept a passport.
It spits out your receipt which you give (with entry card) to the CBSA agent as you exit.
Other than "merci and/or bonne journée", I've never even spoken to any CBSA agent when I arrive/enter at YUL.
It spits out your receipt which you give (with entry card) to the CBSA agent as you exit.
Other than "merci and/or bonne journée", I've never even spoken to any CBSA agent when I arrive/enter at YUL.
#143
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Yep. Typing this from the terminal, I made it through easily, though I had an issue scanning nexus at the global entry machine so the guy at customs knew I had no passport. He notified me that the nexus rules require a passport but he let me go as I was a minor when I got nexus and that was ample reason for him to let me through without taking my card from me. I'll have to be careful coming back in to Canada.
If you are US citizen, shouldn't need passport either under WHTI.
#144
Join Date: Jun 2015
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nexus card ONLY is acceptable for flying to the usa at least on UA
sup apologies for late but very much (imo) useful update
dunno why some people said nexus alone is not permissible for cdn citizens seeking entry into the usa considering ua's own timatic said nexus is ok for travel
ua flt yyciah. day before my flight i hit up yyc. the ats agent working ua checkin at said that nexus is OK provided that you check in online. if through a human this is apparently a huge issue because APIS cannot be manually entered and "the scanners here cannot scan your nexus card".
checked in online, however you cannot select nexus or global entry with the online apis. so i just stuck with my passport info and checked in fine.
showed to the airport, went to a kiosk to print my bagtag. i also tried editing my apis info there but the kiosk wouldn't read my nexus card. so i went thru with the passport info of the passport that i did not have. the exact same agent tagged my bag and was surprised/pleased that it worked. i told her i'm using passport apis info and she said fugetaboutit.
usual global entry treatment from cbp in yyc (chillin', not getting involved, not wearing body armor, polite). wish the canadian border hacks were like that to their own citizens. anyways boarded the flight with my nexus only and ordered a mimosa for my pre-drink.
dunno why some people said nexus alone is not permissible for cdn citizens seeking entry into the usa considering ua's own timatic said nexus is ok for travel
ua flt yyciah. day before my flight i hit up yyc. the ats agent working ua checkin at said that nexus is OK provided that you check in online. if through a human this is apparently a huge issue because APIS cannot be manually entered and "the scanners here cannot scan your nexus card".
checked in online, however you cannot select nexus or global entry with the online apis. so i just stuck with my passport info and checked in fine.
showed to the airport, went to a kiosk to print my bagtag. i also tried editing my apis info there but the kiosk wouldn't read my nexus card. so i went thru with the passport info of the passport that i did not have. the exact same agent tagged my bag and was surprised/pleased that it worked. i told her i'm using passport apis info and she said fugetaboutit.
usual global entry treatment from cbp in yyc (chillin', not getting involved, not wearing body armor, polite). wish the canadian border hacks were like that to their own citizens. anyways boarded the flight with my nexus only and ordered a mimosa for my pre-drink.
#145
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The NEXUS card is not supposed to be valid for air travel between the US and Canada, a passport is required.
They (Delta) wouldn't even waive that for me when I couldn't get home to get my passport due to Sandy.
They (Delta) wouldn't even waive that for me when I couldn't get home to get my passport due to Sandy.
#146
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ua flt yyciah. day before my flight i hit up yyc. the ats agent working ua checkin at said that nexus is OK provided that you check in online. if through a human this is apparently a huge issue because APIS cannot be manually entered and "the scanners here cannot scan your nexus card".
#147
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Just because it's the written policy, doesn't mean it's always enforced, and the fact that it's not always enforced doesn't in any way undermine the previous post's statement that DL would be a poor choice of operating carrier for attempting this.
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I thought I remembered that when I got NEXUS I was told that a passport is required for air travel. But http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...ocs-air-travel says "All U.S. citizens and nonimmigrant aliens from Canada, Bermuda, and Mexico departing from or entering the United States from within the Western Hemisphere at air ports of entry are required to present a valid passport, NEXUS card (if utilizing a NEXUS kiosk when departing from a designated Canadian airport), Merchant Mariner Document (for U.S. citizens traveling on official business), or Military Identification Card (for members of the U.S. armed forces traveling on official orders). Note that children are also required to present their own passport when traveling by air." So it might be that the requirements have changed.
In fact, http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...vel-initiative says "What types of documents are accepted for entry into the United States via air?
U.S. citizens can present a valid: U.S. Passport; Trusted Traveler Program card (NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST);" so it appears that they have.
In fact, http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...vel-initiative says "What types of documents are accepted for entry into the United States via air?
U.S. citizens can present a valid: U.S. Passport; Trusted Traveler Program card (NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST);" so it appears that they have.
#150
Join Date: Jun 2015
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I thought I remembered that when I got NEXUS I was told that a passport is required for air travel. But http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...ocs-air-travel says "All U.S. citizens and nonimmigrant aliens from Canada, Bermuda, and Mexico departing from or entering the United States from within the Western Hemisphere at air ports of entry are required to present a valid passport, NEXUS card (if utilizing a NEXUS kiosk when departing from a designated Canadian airport), Merchant Mariner Document (for U.S. citizens traveling on official business), or Military Identification Card (for members of the U.S. armed forces traveling on official orders). Note that children are also required to present their own passport when traveling by air." So it might be that the requirements have changed.
In fact, http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...vel-initiative says "What types of documents are accepted for entry into the United States via air?
U.S. citizens can present a valid: U.S. Passport; Trusted Traveler Program card (NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST);" so it appears that they have.
In fact, http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizen...vel-initiative says "What types of documents are accepted for entry into the United States via air?
U.S. citizens can present a valid: U.S. Passport; Trusted Traveler Program card (NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST);" so it appears that they have.
and ua agents in yyc don't care about no passport (cause timatic says it's ok)
gosh