Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 24, 2018, 10:28 am
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As for your second question regarding later service (1981) to Stockton, I believe we're talking about Frontier operating a 737-200. The flight originated in Denver and I seem to recall an intermediate stop in there somewhere, but darned if I can think of it at present. For now, let's go with... Reno.
FL 601: Denver (DEN) 9:37a - 10:53a Reno (RNO) 11:13a - 11:44a Stockton (SCK)
Op: Daily
Equip: 73S
FL 607: Denver (DEN) 7:34p - 8:50p Reno (RNO) 9:15p - 9:47p Stockton (SCK)
Op: Daily
Equip: 73S
BTW, the next largest aircraft type being operated into Stockton at this time was the DHC-7 Dash 7 flown by Golden Gate (GG) with nonstop service from LAX, SFO, FAT and MOD.
Mar 24, 2018, 10:36 am
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GO EAST - GO WEST on the TCA Silver Dart JET FLIGHT
The only NON-STOP service between Toronto/Hamilton and Vancouver
The only ONE-STOP service between Montreal and Vancouver
DAILY SERVICE ON DC-8 GIANT JETS
Mar 24, 2018, 3:23 pm
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3. Speaking of the Vickers Viscount, in 1961 this European-based airline was offering nonstop flights between Lourdes, France (LDE) and four destinations in Europe outside of France. The Viscount was operated on all of these flights. Identify the airline and all four destinations which were located in four different countries. And here's a hint: this airline was not based in France. Three of the destinations were Barcelona, Lisbon and Rome. The fourth destination is where this airline is still based. ANSWERED
5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet.
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city.
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Mar 24, 2018, 3:39 pm
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Bonus #3 - Now we are back in early 1976 and are preparing to travel to Sun Valley, Idaho for a skiing vacation. We know Hughes Airwest can fly us into Twin Falls which they are promoting as the "jet gateway for Sun Valley". However, TWF is about 90 miles by car from Sun Valley via two lane highway and you would rather fly directly into Sun Valley (SUN) as the local airport is only about 12 miles down the road. Well, you are in luck....that is, if you do not mind traveling on board an aircraft that is not a jet. There are two airlines serving Sun Valley at this time. The first airline operates nonstop flights into SUN from Boise and Salt Lake City and operates three different aircraft types on these routes. The second airline only operates nonstop from Salt Lake City and only operates one aircraft type on this route. Identify both air carriers and the respective equipment they were operating into Sun Valley at this time. Both airlines were commuter air carriers, one of which went out of business fairly quickly. The other airline reinvented itself some years later which included a slight modification to its name and then started flying jets in scheduled service from a hub that was not located anywhere near Sun Valley.
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I'll add a hint to the Frontier route swap question:
One of the routes the airline that wanted DAL-ABQ-LAS from Frontier would have traded to Frontier was the 2nd leg of a legendary multi stop route that's appeared in quizzes here several times.
One of the routes the airline that wanted DAL-ABQ-LAS from Frontier would have traded to Frontier was the 2nd leg of a legendary multi stop route that's appeared in quizzes here several times.
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3. Speaking of the Vickers Viscount, in 1961 this European-based airline was offering nonstop flights between Lourdes, France (LDE) and four destinations in Europe outside of France. The Viscount was operated on all of these flights. Identify the airline and all four destinations which were located in four different countries. And here's a hint: this airline was not based in France.
The answer is: Dublin, Aer Lingus. The first airline I had FFP with back in the owd days
The answer is: Dublin, Aer Lingus. The first airline I had FFP with back in the owd days
Mar 25, 2018, 7:40 am
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3. Speaking of the Vickers Viscount, in 1961 this European-based airline was offering nonstop flights between Lourdes, France (LDE) and four destinations in Europe outside of France. The Viscount was operated on all of these flights. Identify the airline and all four destinations which were located in four different countries. And here's a hint: this airline was not based in France.
The answer is: Dublin, Aer Lingus. The first airline I had FFP with back in the owd days
The answer is: Dublin, Aer Lingus. The first airline I had FFP with back in the owd days
EI 590: Dublin (DUB) 15:00 - 18:00 Lourdes (LDE) 18:30 - 21:00 Lisbon (LIS)
Op: Wednesdays and Saturdays only
Equip: Viscount
Meal service: Refreshments DUB-LDE, Dinner LDE-LIS
EI 680: Dublin (DUB) 15:30 - 18:30 Lourdes (LDE) 19:00 - 21:30 Rome (ROM)
Op: Thursday and Sundays only
Equip: Viscount
Meal service: Refreshments DUB-LDE, Dinner LDE-ROM
EI 560: Dublin (DUB) 17:05 - 20:05 Lourdes (LDE) 20:35 - 21:35 Barcelona (BCN)
Op: Tuesdays and Fridays only
Equip: Viscount
Meal service: Dinner DUB-LDE, Refreshments LDE-BCN
And I, too, remember the good "owed" days.....thank goodness for 50% off standby youth fare tickets back then!
Mar 26, 2018, 3:42 pm
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5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet.
Depending upon when in the spring of '68, this could have been West Coast or Air West. If the former, the aircraft would have been a DC-9-10. I'll have to get back to you later on a guess at the routing.
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city.
Since the other half of New Guinea is Indonesian, let's try Garuda operating with a DC-10-30
Depending upon when in the spring of '68, this could have been West Coast or Air West. If the former, the aircraft would have been a DC-9-10. I'll have to get back to you later on a guess at the routing.
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city.
Since the other half of New Guinea is Indonesian, let's try Garuda operating with a DC-10-30
Mar 26, 2018, 5:27 pm
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5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet. ANSWERED
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city. ANSWERED
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Mar 26, 2018, 5:31 pm
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5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet.
Depending upon when in the spring of '68, this could have been West Coast or Air West. If the former, the aircraft would have been a DC-9-10. I'll have to get back to you later on a guess at the routing.
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city.
Since the other half of New Guinea is Indonesian, let's try Garuda operating with a DC-10-30
Depending upon when in the spring of '68, this could have been West Coast or Air West. If the former, the aircraft would have been a DC-9-10. I'll have to get back to you later on a guess at the routing.
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city.
Since the other half of New Guinea is Indonesian, let's try Garuda operating with a DC-10-30
11. Nope, it was not Garuda and the wide body aircraft wasn't a DC-10-30. Plus, the air carrier in question was not based in Indonesia.
Please guess again, sir!
Mar 26, 2018, 5:38 pm
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Bonus #3 - Now we are back in early 1976 and are preparing to travel to Sun Valley, Idaho for a skiing vacation. We know Hughes Airwest can fly us into Twin Falls which they are promoting as the "jet gateway for Sun Valley". However, TWF is about 90 miles by car from Sun Valley via two lane highway and you would rather fly directly into Sun Valley (SUN) as the local airport is only about 12 miles down the road. Well, you are in luck....that is, if you do not mind traveling on board an aircraft that is not a jet. There are two airlines serving Sun Valley at this time. The first airline operates nonstop flights into SUN from Boise and Salt Lake City and operates three different aircraft types on these routes. The second airline only operates nonstop from Salt Lake City and only operates one aircraft type on this route. Identify both air carriers and the respective equipment they were operating into Sun Valley at this time. Both airlines were commuter air carriers, one of which went out of business fairly quickly. The other airline reinvented itself some years later which included a slight modification to its name and then started flying jets in scheduled service from a hub that was not located anywhere near Sun Valley. ANSWERED
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5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet. It was a DC-9-10. But which airline, West Coast or Air West?
Let's go with West Coast. As to the routing - there are a lot of options. Hughes Airwest has been the answer to some of these long west coast routing type questions, and I remember for some reasons that these flights generally skipped Seattle and went down through southeast Washington. So, pulling out my trusty Rand McNally road atlas, let's start with the following:
Spokane - Pasco - Yakima - Portland
As to the rest, I'll defer to my first ever flight on Hughes Airwest
Portland - Redmond/Bend - Klamath Falls - Sacramento - San Francisco.
So there you go, six stops - GEG - PSC - YKM - PDX - RDM - LMF - SMF - SFO
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city. It was not Garuda and the wide body aircraft wasn't a DC-10-30
Hmm... back in '83, Port Moresby was not a big tourism destination - at least not enough to warrant wide body capacity. As such, I'm thinking it was more of a fuel stop. For that matter, which Asian countries were doing well enough in business and tourism to warrant a route to the Auckland of 1983, which I should imagine was more of a tourism destination back then (which is when I used to spend a lot of time down there). Looked at through that prism, Japan or Hong Kong come to mind. I can't imagine Cathay Pacific running an L-1011 on this route, so what the heck - let's go with Japan Airlines operating a 747.
Let's go with West Coast. As to the routing - there are a lot of options. Hughes Airwest has been the answer to some of these long west coast routing type questions, and I remember for some reasons that these flights generally skipped Seattle and went down through southeast Washington. So, pulling out my trusty Rand McNally road atlas, let's start with the following:
Spokane - Pasco - Yakima - Portland
As to the rest, I'll defer to my first ever flight on Hughes Airwest
Portland - Redmond/Bend - Klamath Falls - Sacramento - San Francisco.
So there you go, six stops - GEG - PSC - YKM - PDX - RDM - LMF - SMF - SFO
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city. It was not Garuda and the wide body aircraft wasn't a DC-10-30
Hmm... back in '83, Port Moresby was not a big tourism destination - at least not enough to warrant wide body capacity. As such, I'm thinking it was more of a fuel stop. For that matter, which Asian countries were doing well enough in business and tourism to warrant a route to the Auckland of 1983, which I should imagine was more of a tourism destination back then (which is when I used to spend a lot of time down there). Looked at through that prism, Japan or Hong Kong come to mind. I can't imagine Cathay Pacific running an L-1011 on this route, so what the heck - let's go with Japan Airlines operating a 747.
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5. It's the spring of 1968 and you are in Spokane visiting with old friends. The party turned into a poker game which has lasted all night and it's now 3:00 am. The good news is you're ahead of the game with regard to your winnings. The bad news is you now have to travel to San Francisco on short notice on business. Ah, what's this? There's a flight departing GEG at 4:55 am which will get you into SFO at 10:16 am. A total of six stops will be made en route. Book it! Identify the air carrier, the aircraft and all six stops in the order in which they will be made. This flight was operated with a jet. It was a DC-9-10. But which airline, West Coast or Air West?
Let's go with West Coast. As to the routing - there are a lot of options. Hughes Airwest has been the answer to some of these long west coast routing type questions, and I remember for some reasons that these flights generally skipped Seattle and went down through southeast Washington. So, pulling out my trusty Rand McNally road atlas, let's start with the following:
Spokane - Pasco - Yakima - Portland
As to the rest, I'll defer to my first ever flight on Hughes Airwest
Portland - Redmond/Bend - Klamath Falls - Sacramento - San Francisco.
So there you go, six stops - GEG - PSC - YKM - PDX - RDM - LMF - SMF - SFO
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city. It was not Garuda and the wide body aircraft wasn't a DC-10-30
Hmm... back in '83, Port Moresby was not a big tourism destination - at least not enough to warrant wide body capacity. As such, I'm thinking it was more of a fuel stop. For that matter, which Asian countries were doing well enough in business and tourism to warrant a route to the Auckland of 1983, which I should imagine was more of a tourism destination back then (which is when I used to spend a lot of time down there). Looked at through that prism, Japan or Hong Kong come to mind. I can't imagine Cathay Pacific running an L-1011 on this route, so what the heck - let's go with Japan Airlines operating a 747.
Let's go with West Coast. As to the routing - there are a lot of options. Hughes Airwest has been the answer to some of these long west coast routing type questions, and I remember for some reasons that these flights generally skipped Seattle and went down through southeast Washington. So, pulling out my trusty Rand McNally road atlas, let's start with the following:
Spokane - Pasco - Yakima - Portland
As to the rest, I'll defer to my first ever flight on Hughes Airwest
Portland - Redmond/Bend - Klamath Falls - Sacramento - San Francisco.
So there you go, six stops - GEG - PSC - YKM - PDX - RDM - LMF - SMF - SFO
11. In 1983, this air carrier was operating nonstop service with a wide body aircraft once a week between Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (POM) and Auckland (AKL). Identify the airline and the aircraft. The eastbound flight originated in a city in Asia and the westbound flight terminated in the same city. It was not Garuda and the wide body aircraft wasn't a DC-10-30
Hmm... back in '83, Port Moresby was not a big tourism destination - at least not enough to warrant wide body capacity. As such, I'm thinking it was more of a fuel stop. For that matter, which Asian countries were doing well enough in business and tourism to warrant a route to the Auckland of 1983, which I should imagine was more of a tourism destination back then (which is when I used to spend a lot of time down there). Looked at through that prism, Japan or Hong Kong come to mind. I can't imagine Cathay Pacific running an L-1011 on this route, so what the heck - let's go with Japan Airlines operating a 747.
WC 961: Spokane (GEG) 4:55a - 5:23a Walla Walla (ALW) 5:35a - 5:53a Pasco (PSC) 6:07a - 6:29a Yakima (YKM) 6:50a - 7:22a Portland (PDX) 7:50a - 8:19a Eugene (EUG) 8:35a - 9:03a Medford (MFD) 9:20a - 10:16a San Francisco (SFO)
Op: Daily except Sundays
Equip: DC-9 Fanjet
Interesting to see West Coast operating the DC9 into Walla Walla....and a bit later in 1968 WC merged with Bonanza Air Lines and Pacific Air Lines to form Air West, of course, which I believe did not operate DC9 service into Walla Walla but continued to serve ALW with the Fairchild F-27. I also think the only other airline to operate jet service into Walla Walla was Cascade Airways as they had a maintenance base located at ALW as we recently discussed.
11. Ah, I can't imagine Cathay Pacific operating an L-1011 on the route, either......however, as you have mentioned Cathay Pacific, I can indeed imagine CX operating a Boeing 747 into Port Moresby! Here's the round trip sched....
CX 032: Hong Kong (HKG) 9:40p - 5:50a Port Moresby (POM) 6:50a - 1:45p Auckland (AKL)
Op: Tuesdays only
Equip: 747
CX 033: Auckland (AKL) 3:10p - 6:20p Port Moresby (POM) 7:20p - 11:15p Hong Kong (HKG)
Op: Wednesdays only
Equip: 747
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Bonus #3 - Now we are back in early 1976 and are preparing to travel to Sun Valley, Idaho for a skiing vacation. We know Hughes Airwest can fly us into Twin Falls which they are promoting as the "jet gateway for Sun Valley". However, TWF is about 90 miles by car from Sun Valley via two lane highway and you would rather fly directly into Sun Valley (SUN) as the local airport is only about 12 miles down the road. Well, you are in luck....that is, if you do not mind traveling on board an aircraft that is not a jet. There are two airlines serving Sun Valley at this time. The first airline operates nonstop flights into SUN from Boise and Salt Lake City and operates three different aircraft types on these routes. The second airline only operates nonstop from Salt Lake City and only operates one aircraft type on this route. Identify both air carriers and the respective equipment they were operating into Sun Valley at this time.
And that does it for me! It's been fun, as always, and I shall return at some point with a new batch of quiz items.
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