Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 29, 2018, 6:52 am
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My guess for the 747 lounge: Pan American. I never flew in F on Pan Am (and I only had one flight on them in Y, HNL-PDX in 1978), but I did buy a set of their John McCoy menus from a rare book store in inner city Detroit many years ago for $1 each. These menus continue to be almost as sought after by collectors as the Nixon Galloway aircraft paintings UA sent their best customers in the 1970s.
Mar 29, 2018, 12:26 pm
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I have yet to ride that train from DIA into downtown Denver. It had some teething problems early on, but I understand it's pretty reliable now. Hopefully you got a chance to check out the newly refurbished Union Station. Although the new station is truly beautiful, seen against the backdrop of the cavernous, musty old edifice that it once was makes one appreciate it all the more. Also, although some of the service standards on Virgin America have become more "Alaskanized", the VA brand doesn't officially expire until April 24th.
Mar 29, 2018, 12:38 pm
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6. It’s been a wonderful flight so far… cocktails, a delicious dinner, a movie… and still an hour and a half left in the flight. Why not head upstairs to The Captain’s Cabin for a drink? What airline are you flying upon?
HINT: This airlines' menus from the mid-seventies are very popular on ebay
You know, I'm not sure if American ever had a name for its lounges other than "First Class Lounge", "Coach Lounge" etc. I remember my first time aboard a 747 was on an American bird sitting at the gate at JFK. I was 13 or 14 years old at the time and I simply asked the gate agent if I could go onboard and take a few pictures. No problem. He escorted me onboard, and then left me on my own to wander the plane. Without adult supervision. How times have changed.
Thanks to an inheritance of $3000 back in 1976, my first flight aboard Pan Am was in First Class from Honolulu to Seattle. Unfortunately, the lounge had by then been turned into a dining room - a comparatively uninspired collection of buffet style booths with all the ambiance of a roadside diner. So far as I know, PA's lounge, like AA's, never had a proper name.
That said, the airline we're looking for is neither American or Pan Am. Additionally, I re-checked my source for this question (the airline's schematic of the 747 interior) and the actual name of the lounge is The Captain's Cabin. You're getting close! Please, guess again!
HINT: This airlines' menus from the mid-seventies are very popular on ebay
Originally Posted by JoeDTW
My guess for the 747 lounge: Pan American.
Thanks to an inheritance of $3000 back in 1976, my first flight aboard Pan Am was in First Class from Honolulu to Seattle. Unfortunately, the lounge had by then been turned into a dining room - a comparatively uninspired collection of buffet style booths with all the ambiance of a roadside diner. So far as I know, PA's lounge, like AA's, never had a proper name.
That said, the airline we're looking for is neither American or Pan Am. Additionally, I re-checked my source for this question (the airline's schematic of the 747 interior) and the actual name of the lounge is The Captain's Cabin. You're getting close! Please, guess again!
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5.In the old days, flying aboard a one stop DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark would not have been worthy of comment. By 1988 however, Delta and Eastern had long since sold off their Baby Nines in favor of DC-9-30s and Boeing 727s. There is however one airline upon which you can still fly aboard a DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark. It operates one flight per day and a single intermediate stop is made. As an added bonus, a snack is offered along the way. Identify the airline and the intermediate stop.
One stop DC9 service between ATL and EWR: Let's try Northwest via MEM.
A fine guess JL, but no, it was not Northwest. The stop we're looking for was northeast of Atlanta, almost on a straight line to Newark. Please, guess again!
One stop DC9 service between ATL and EWR: Let's try Northwest via MEM.
A fine guess JL, but no, it was not Northwest. The stop we're looking for was northeast of Atlanta, almost on a straight line to Newark. Please, guess again!
Mar 29, 2018, 1:08 pm
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1985 OAG
A N S W E R E D
THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS FROM 1988
MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS
1. It's 1985 and Air Canada and Delta have offered nonstop flights from Tampa and Miami up to Montreal for years. Alas, the same cannot be said for service out of Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando which have never benefited from scheduled nonstop service. Until recently, that is. A new service provides twice weekly flights from each city nonstop to Montreal. Identify the airline and the equipment it employs on each route.
HINT: These flights were both operated with the same aircraft type. It was a Canadian airline.
3. It used to be that if you wanted to fly aboard a DC-9-10 out of Reno, you called Hughes Airwest. Not anymore. Three different airlines operate the “Baby Nine” into Reno. Can you identify each airline?
Republic and Sunworld Int'l. have been correctly identified. Horizon and Great American Airways and Continental are incorrect. We're still looking for the elusive third airline... I flew upon one of its jets that was leased to the airline I was flying between two western cities
4. You always knew that your degree in agricultural sciences from Florida State would serve you well someday. Look at you now: manager of the Southwest Nebraska Soy Cooperative – Nebraska’s largest – located just outside Grand Island, Nebraska. When an opportunity arises to fly back to Tallahassee for a get together with fellow alums from the Ag Department, you are thrilled at the opportunity to indulge in your other passion – air travel. Just last week you scored a used OAG from the local travel agency which has allowed you to put together a fantastic trip involving five different airlines. Not only that, but each flight will utilize the same type of aircraft which just happens to be your favorite. Check out this itinerary:Only one airline serves Grand Island with jets. Starting Monday afternoon, you’ll board one of its flights - a one stop service to Chicago where you’ll join friends for dinner at the renowned Palmer House. Tuesday morning, it’s off to O’Hare for an 8:25am departure to Indianapolis. Arriving at Indy’s Weir Cook International Airport at 9:10am, you’ve got plenty of time to connect to your next flight to Columbus since the minimum published connection time between the two airlines you’re flying is 20 minutes. Following a nice lunch with the Dean of Ohio State’s Ag Department, it’s back to the airport for a mid-afternoon departure to Ft. Lauderdale. A single stop is made along the way. You’ll spend the night with an old friend in Hollywood before relocating to nearby Miami International on Wednesday morning for your one stop flight to Tallahassee.
The correct answer to this question will involve:
HINT: These flights were both operated with the same aircraft type. It was a Canadian airline.
3. It used to be that if you wanted to fly aboard a DC-9-10 out of Reno, you called Hughes Airwest. Not anymore. Three different airlines operate the “Baby Nine” into Reno. Can you identify each airline?
Republic and Sunworld Int'l. have been correctly identified. Horizon and Great American Airways and Continental are incorrect. We're still looking for the elusive third airline... I flew upon one of its jets that was leased to the airline I was flying between two western cities
4. You always knew that your degree in agricultural sciences from Florida State would serve you well someday. Look at you now: manager of the Southwest Nebraska Soy Cooperative – Nebraska’s largest – located just outside Grand Island, Nebraska. When an opportunity arises to fly back to Tallahassee for a get together with fellow alums from the Ag Department, you are thrilled at the opportunity to indulge in your other passion – air travel. Just last week you scored a used OAG from the local travel agency which has allowed you to put together a fantastic trip involving five different airlines. Not only that, but each flight will utilize the same type of aircraft which just happens to be your favorite. Check out this itinerary:Only one airline serves Grand Island with jets. Starting Monday afternoon, you’ll board one of its flights - a one stop service to Chicago where you’ll join friends for dinner at the renowned Palmer House. Tuesday morning, it’s off to O’Hare for an 8:25am departure to Indianapolis. Arriving at Indy’s Weir Cook International Airport at 9:10am, you’ve got plenty of time to connect to your next flight to Columbus since the minimum published connection time between the two airlines you’re flying is 20 minutes. Following a nice lunch with the Dean of Ohio State’s Ag Department, it’s back to the airport for a mid-afternoon departure to Ft. Lauderdale. A single stop is made along the way. You’ll spend the night with an old friend in Hollywood before relocating to nearby Miami International on Wednesday morning for your one stop flight to Tallahassee.
The correct answer to this question will involve:
- Properly identifying each of the five airlines
- Identifying the single equipment type operated throughout this journey
A N S W E R E D
THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS FROM 1988
5. In the old days, flying aboard a one stop DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark would not have been worthy of comment. By 1988 however, Delta and Eastern had long since sold off their Baby Nines in favor of DC-9-30s and Boeing 727s. There is however one airline upon which you can still fly aboard a DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark. It operates one flight per day and a single intermediate stop is made. As an added bonus, a snack is offered along the way. Identify the airline and the intermediate stop.
A N S W E R E D
A N S W E R E D
MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS
6. It’s been a wonderful flight so far… cocktails, a delicious dinner, a movie… and still an hour and a half left in the flight. Why not head upstairs to The Captain’s Cabin for a drink? What airline are you flying upon?
A N S W E R E D
A N S W E R E D
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5. One stop DC9 service between ATL and EWR - third and final wild guess....
Was Best Airlines still around in 1988? Their small fleet of DC-9-10s were fairly colorful...and at one point Best even served the old Esler Airfield (ESF) at Alexandria, LA north of Lafayette with nonstops to ATL and DFW after Delta ceased its 72S and D9S service into ESF.
So what the heck....I'll go with Best with the stop being Roanoke (ROA).
Was Best Airlines still around in 1988? Their small fleet of DC-9-10s were fairly colorful...and at one point Best even served the old Esler Airfield (ESF) at Alexandria, LA north of Lafayette with nonstops to ATL and DFW after Delta ceased its 72S and D9S service into ESF.
So what the heck....I'll go with Best with the stop being Roanoke (ROA).
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5. In the old days, flying aboard a one stop DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark would not have been worthy of comment. By 1988 however, Delta and Eastern had long since sold off their Baby Nines in favor of DC-9-30s and Boeing 727s. There is however one airline upon which you can still fly aboard a DC-9-10 between Atlanta and Newark. It operates one flight per day and a single intermediate stop is made. As an added bonus, a snack is offered along the way. Identify the airline and the intermediate stop.
One stop DC9 service between ATL and EWR - third and final wild guess.... Was Best Airlines still around in 1988? Their small fleet of DC-9-10s were fairly colorful...and at one point Best even served the old Esler Airfield (ESF) at Alexandria, LA north of Lafayette with nonstops to ATL and DFW after Delta ceased its 72S and D9S service into ESF. So what the heck....I'll go with Best with the stop being Roanoke (ROA).
Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!! Best Airlines is correct! Here's the schedule:
Best Airlines IW 326 Atlanta (ATL) 920a – 1020a Roanoke (ROA) 1035a – 1135a Newark (EWR) DC-9 Op. X7
Snack served ATL-ROA
One stop DC9 service between ATL and EWR - third and final wild guess.... Was Best Airlines still around in 1988? Their small fleet of DC-9-10s were fairly colorful...and at one point Best even served the old Esler Airfield (ESF) at Alexandria, LA north of Lafayette with nonstops to ATL and DFW after Delta ceased its 72S and D9S service into ESF. So what the heck....I'll go with Best with the stop being Roanoke (ROA).
Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!! Best Airlines is correct! Here's the schedule:
Best Airlines IW 326 Atlanta (ATL) 920a – 1020a Roanoke (ROA) 1035a – 1135a Newark (EWR) DC-9 Op. X7
Snack served ATL-ROA
Mar 30, 2018, 3:34 pm
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6. It’s been a wonderful flight so far… cocktails, a delicious dinner, a movie… and still an hour and a half left in the flight. Why not head upstairs to The Captain’s Cabin for a drink? What airline are you flying upon?
HINT: This airlines' menus from the mid-seventies are very popular on ebay
HINT: This airlines' menus from the mid-seventies are very popular on ebay
Mar 30, 2018, 4:18 pm
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6. It’s been a wonderful flight so far… cocktails, a delicious dinner, a movie… and still an hour and a half left in the flight. Why not head upstairs to The Captain’s Cabin for a drink? What airline are you flying upon?
Hmmmm....Eastern briefly flew the Boeing 747 in domestic service and I believe also to San Juan. So let's try EA.
It might've been the Ionosphere Lounge if it had been Eastern, which, alas, it was not. In fact, so far as I know Eastern initially leased a Pan Am bird and, with the exception of putting its logo on the tail, flew it as is - i.e. PA interior and all. Later, an aircraft or two were painted in the full classic hockey stick livery but did Eastern ever have an interior designed to its specifications? Those 747s were on such short term leases that this would seem doubtful.
Now, National had the Sun King Lounge and Delta had its penthouse, so they're out. Continental had the Diamond Head Lounge followed by the Oceania Lounge and Braniff had the International Lounge (Gawd! I miss the seventies just typing this stuff!), so scratch them as well. Northwest? Nope. I should imagine it bugged Mr. Nyrop to no end just having all that revenue space upstairs being wasted on such frivolities. God forbid he should give it a name!
Again, we're talking about a major airline here, not a supplemental carrier. What do you think amongst what's left?
Hmmmm....Eastern briefly flew the Boeing 747 in domestic service and I believe also to San Juan. So let's try EA.
It might've been the Ionosphere Lounge if it had been Eastern, which, alas, it was not. In fact, so far as I know Eastern initially leased a Pan Am bird and, with the exception of putting its logo on the tail, flew it as is - i.e. PA interior and all. Later, an aircraft or two were painted in the full classic hockey stick livery but did Eastern ever have an interior designed to its specifications? Those 747s were on such short term leases that this would seem doubtful.
Now, National had the Sun King Lounge and Delta had its penthouse, so they're out. Continental had the Diamond Head Lounge followed by the Oceania Lounge and Braniff had the International Lounge (Gawd! I miss the seventies just typing this stuff!), so scratch them as well. Northwest? Nope. I should imagine it bugged Mr. Nyrop to no end just having all that revenue space upstairs being wasted on such frivolities. God forbid he should give it a name!
Again, we're talking about a major airline here, not a supplemental carrier. What do you think amongst what's left?
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May have to have a Cajun Bloody Mary and ponder quiz item four a bit. And make that a double, Boudreaux...... 
As for six , let's try TWA.....
BTW, it's a beautiful evening here and cool enough outside that we may have a fire in our outdoor fireplace. Also just had a TUI 787 sail past high overhead the house en route from Puerto Vallarta to London Gatwick. Glad I'm not up there in coach on that flight!
As for six , let's try TWA.....
BTW, it's a beautiful evening here and cool enough outside that we may have a fire in our outdoor fireplace. Also just had a TUI 787 sail past high overhead the house en route from Puerto Vallarta to London Gatwick. Glad I'm not up there in coach on that flight!
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6- among the US majors, we have ruled out AA, BN, CO, DL, EA, NA, NW, and PA -- which means we are (conveniently alphabetically) down to TWA and United ... "Captain's Cabin" sounds like much more of a domestic marketing slogan, and the fact that TW's 747s also saw a lot of TATL use leads me to speculate it was UA
HA! "dueling JLs" here
speaking of "overhead the house" ... a couple hours ago a 747-400F was on final for 14R at BFI, and about an hour later a Saudia 747-400 followed ... most likely bringing one of the princes and his entourage (I'd guess the first one was carrying the limousines)
HA! "dueling JLs" here
speaking of "overhead the house" ... a couple hours ago a 747-400F was on final for 14R at BFI, and about an hour later a Saudia 747-400 followed ... most likely bringing one of the princes and his entourage (I'd guess the first one was carrying the limousines)
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It’s been a wonderful flight so far… cocktails, a delicious dinner, a movie… and still an hour and a half left in the flight. Why not head upstairs to The Captain’s Lounge for a drink? What airline are you flying upon?
And the winner is: jrl767! Check out the schematic:
Originally Posted by jlemon
As for six , let's try TWA.....
Among the US majors, we have ruled out AA, BN, CO, DL, EA, NA, NW, and PA -- which means we are (conveniently alphabetically) down to TWA and United ... "Captain's Cabin" sounds like much more of a domestic marketing slogan, and the fact that TW's 747s also saw a lot of TATL use leads me to speculate it was UA
HA! "dueling JLs" here
HA! "dueling JLs" here
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4. You always knew that your degree in agricultural sciences from Florida State would serve you well someday. Look at you now: manager of the Southwest Nebraska Soy Cooperative – Nebraska’s largest – located just outside Grand Island, Nebraska. When an opportunity arises to fly back to Tallahassee for a get together with fellow alums from the Ag Department, you are thrilled at the opportunity to indulge in your other passion – air travel. Just last week you scored a used OAG from the local travel agency which has allowed you to put together a fantastic trip involving five different airlines. Not only that, but each flight will utilize the same type of aircraft which just happens to be your favorite. Check out this itinerary:Only one airline serves Grand Island with jets. Starting Monday afternoon, you’ll board one of its flights - a one stop service to Chicago where you’ll join friends for dinner at the renowned Palmer House. Tuesday morning, it’s off to O’Hare for an 8:25am departure to Indianapolis. Arriving at Indy’s Weir Cook International Airport at 9:10am, you’ve got plenty of time to connect to your next flight to Columbus since the minimum published connection time between the two airlines you’re flying is 20 minutes. Following a nice lunch with the Dean of Ohio State’s Ag Department, it’s back to the airport for a mid-afternoon departure to Ft. Lauderdale. A single stop is made along the way. You’ll spend the night with an old friend in Hollywood before relocating to nearby Miami International on Wednesday morning for your one stop flight to Tallahassee.
The correct answer to this question will involve:
The correct answer to this question will involve:
- Properly identifying each of the five airlines
- Identifying the single equipment type operated throughout this journey
HINT: We're looking for just one aircraft type here, so that's a big hint when you consider some of the cities served. If it's any help, the aircraft was built overseas... Now where's your sense of adventure?
Well, then.....an old friend comes to mind: the BAC One-Eleven. I experienced a number of great flights back in the day on board the One-Eleven, first with the original Braniff International (including a ride up front in first while traveling standby on a 50% off youth fare) and later with Pacific Express. And I believe we can rule out both BN and VB with regard to the airlines in question here.
So here we go....
* Air Wisconsin (ZW) operating Grand Island (GRI) - Lincoln (LNK) - Chicago O'Hare (ORD)
* Britt Airways (RU) operating Chicago O'Hare (ORD) - Indianapolis (IND)
* USAir (US) operating Indianapolis (IND) - Columbus (CMH)
* Florida Express (ZO) operating Columbus (CMH) - Orlando (MCO) - Fort Lauderdale (FLL)
* Atlantic Gulf (ZY) operating Miami (MIA) - West Palm Beach (PBI) - Tallahassee (TLH)
Speaking of adventure, Atlantic Gulf served both Grand Turk (GDT) and Providenciales (PLS) in the Turks and Caicos islands from Miami at one point with the One-Eleven. Lady K and yours truly will be headed to PLS in about three weeks via an AA operated nonstop from DFW on board a B737-800 and shall observe our birthdays while on the island.
