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#617
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SJC, SFO
Programs: UA, AA, SPG
Posts: 439
I have a Hertz Business Account and wish to use the associated discount. However, I already signed up for an ExpertFlyer trial many months ago, and I notice the fine print states that the discount is only available to new accounts. So I can't use the discount to sign up for a paid account?
#618
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA CK, SPG Plt, Marriott Plt, Hyatt Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 443
I have a Hertz Business Account and wish to use the associated discount. However, I already signed up for an ExpertFlyer trial many months ago, and I notice the fine print states that the discount is only available to new accounts. So I can't use the discount to sign up for a paid account?
#619
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SJC, SFO
Programs: UA, AA, SPG
Posts: 439
Except to get my discount code, I need to forward my Hertz welcome e-mail to ExpertFlyer, and that e-mail address is already tied to my existing ExpertFlyer account.
I suppose I could sign up for a new Hertz account too, but was hoping there was an easier way. I can't be the only one who took more than 5 days to decide to sign up for a paid account.
I suppose I could sign up for a new Hertz account too, but was hoping there was an easier way. I can't be the only one who took more than 5 days to decide to sign up for a paid account.
#620
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,931
I have a Hertz Business Account and wish to use the associated discount. However, I already signed up for an ExpertFlyer trial many months ago, and I notice the fine print states that the discount is only available to new accounts. So I can't use the discount to sign up for a paid account?
As per our Terms of Use, multiple accounts under different email addresses are not allowed.
#621
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver, Hilton Gold, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 1,509
disregard
Last edited by gooseman13; Jan 23, 2012 at 8:07 am
#622
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Company Representative - ExpertFlyer


Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,931
ExpertFlyer now supports Korean Air (KE) Business Award availability, as well as Business Upgrade and First Award availability:
- First - Award (A)
- Business - Award (O) (From 3/1/12)
- Business - Upgrade (Z) (From 3/1/12)
- Business - Upgrade (I) (Until 2/28/12)
#623



Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA S, VS S, SQ S, HH D, IHG D/A, Marriott G, Radisson G, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,023
Hi - any word on when you might support BA and CX reward inventory? I've had a look at the EF site and it looks interesting but given BD is on the way out and I'm likely to be moved to Avios & BA it doesn't seem worth signing up only to get AA/IB/QF flights (the only other OW carriers I spotted when quickly looking at the list).
#624
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,931
Hi - any word on when you might support BA and CX reward inventory? I've had a look at the EF site and it looks interesting but given BD is on the way out and I'm likely to be moved to Avios & BA it doesn't seem worth signing up only to get AA/IB/QF flights (the only other OW carriers I spotted when quickly looking at the list).
In the meantime, the only data source for the other Oneworld airlines award data is the airline websites themselves, specifically BA, JL (for CX), and QF. AwardNexus has a free version of its service for FT members that searches those websites and may be of help to you.
#625



Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA S, VS S, SQ S, HH D, IHG D/A, Marriott G, Radisson G, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,023
OK, thanks EF Voice
#626




Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,964
I'm curious about how frequently and when the flight alerts are triggered. Is it only once per 24 hours, or more frequently? I had originally assumed it was nearly real-time, but had the following experience yesterday:
I set up an alert to advise me when DL G upgrade inventory (at least 1 seat) would be available for a specific flight about a week ago as it was G0 at the time.
Yesterday, I phoned DL to book a round-trip itinerary with SWUs. The itinerary has six legs (3 each direction) and only four of the six had upgrade inventory available at time of booking, so those four legs were confirmed and I was waitlisted by DL for the other two. I had EF open while booking and one domestic leg was definitely showing G0 around 7.30 pm my time while on the phone with DL, and the agent also confirmed no availability.
Being a bit obsessive, I checked EF at 10.30 pm (about 3 hours later) and it suddenly showed G3 available, so I quickly called DL and they were able to confirm the upgrade (for two pax). After doing so, EF showed G1.
I had not received an alert about this availability, and only at 5.16 am this morning did I get the EF alert. When I checked EF, it was already back to G0. So I would have missed the upgrade if I had not checked manually and had relied on the alert.
So I wondered how often email alerts are toggled and sent - if only once per 24 hours, I would imagine one could miss availability.
Susan
I set up an alert to advise me when DL G upgrade inventory (at least 1 seat) would be available for a specific flight about a week ago as it was G0 at the time.
Yesterday, I phoned DL to book a round-trip itinerary with SWUs. The itinerary has six legs (3 each direction) and only four of the six had upgrade inventory available at time of booking, so those four legs were confirmed and I was waitlisted by DL for the other two. I had EF open while booking and one domestic leg was definitely showing G0 around 7.30 pm my time while on the phone with DL, and the agent also confirmed no availability.
Being a bit obsessive, I checked EF at 10.30 pm (about 3 hours later) and it suddenly showed G3 available, so I quickly called DL and they were able to confirm the upgrade (for two pax). After doing so, EF showed G1.
I had not received an alert about this availability, and only at 5.16 am this morning did I get the EF alert. When I checked EF, it was already back to G0. So I would have missed the upgrade if I had not checked manually and had relied on the alert.
So I wondered how often email alerts are toggled and sent - if only once per 24 hours, I would imagine one could miss availability.
Susan
#627
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,931
I'm curious about how frequently and when the flight alerts are triggered. Is it only once per 24 hours, or more frequently? I had originally assumed it was nearly real-time, but had the following experience yesterday:
I set up an alert to advise me when DL G upgrade inventory (at least 1 seat) would be available for a specific flight about a week ago as it was G0 at the time.
Yesterday, I phoned DL to book a round-trip itinerary with SWUs. The itinerary has six legs (3 each direction) and only four of the six had upgrade inventory available at time of booking, so those four legs were confirmed and I was waitlisted by DL for the other two. I had EF open while booking and one domestic leg was definitely showing G0 around 7.30 pm my time while on the phone with DL, and the agent also confirmed no availability.
Being a bit obsessive, I checked EF at 10.30 pm (about 3 hours later) and it suddenly showed G3 available, so I quickly called DL and they were able to confirm the upgrade (for two pax). After doing so, EF showed G1.
I had not received an alert about this availability, and only at 5.16 am this morning did I get the EF alert. When I checked EF, it was already back to G0. So I would have missed the upgrade if I had not checked manually and had relied on the alert.
So I wondered how often email alerts are toggled and sent - if only once per 24 hours, I would imagine one could miss availability.
Susan
I set up an alert to advise me when DL G upgrade inventory (at least 1 seat) would be available for a specific flight about a week ago as it was G0 at the time.
Yesterday, I phoned DL to book a round-trip itinerary with SWUs. The itinerary has six legs (3 each direction) and only four of the six had upgrade inventory available at time of booking, so those four legs were confirmed and I was waitlisted by DL for the other two. I had EF open while booking and one domestic leg was definitely showing G0 around 7.30 pm my time while on the phone with DL, and the agent also confirmed no availability.
Being a bit obsessive, I checked EF at 10.30 pm (about 3 hours later) and it suddenly showed G3 available, so I quickly called DL and they were able to confirm the upgrade (for two pax). After doing so, EF showed G1.
I had not received an alert about this availability, and only at 5.16 am this morning did I get the EF alert. When I checked EF, it was already back to G0. So I would have missed the upgrade if I had not checked manually and had relied on the alert.
So I wondered how often email alerts are toggled and sent - if only once per 24 hours, I would imagine one could miss availability.
Susan
How often do Flight Alerts check for availability?
We have a proprietary algorithm that varies the polling frequency based on several factors, including how far away the departure date/time is.
To further expand on that, alerts check at minimum several times a day. The purpose of the alerts is to check the inventory a) when you can't and b) on a regular basis as most people would forget to. If you happen to find the inventory before the next alert check runs because you are also checking manually, that's great, but it doesn't mean that the alert isn't working. As you noted, you were notified anyway.
Also you probably wouldn't have missed the upgrade, the only reason it was G0 the next time you logged in and checked was because you had already taken 2 upgrades previously. If you didn't, there would likely have been upgrade space remaining.
#628




Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Diego
Programs: IHG Diamond, HH Diamond, DL Diamond and 2MM
Posts: 3,637
I was checking KE "O" award inventory last night for AKL-ICN and ICN-LAX last night with lots available. This morning, no KE "O" availability at all. Seems to be an EF issue because Delta can see the award inventory when I called them. Sadly, Delta will not combine outbound DL flights to Australia with KE flights for the return as a single RT award because they claim KE: AKL-ICN-LAX is a "broken fare" (but that's another issue.)
Last edited by Bowgie; Feb 29, 2012 at 6:46 pm
#629




Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Nobody; EY Silver
Posts: 2,587
TK direct access
Dear EF, could you please check if there are any problems with direct access to TK?
Generally, the information for TK is shown accurate, so no need for direct access, however, if direct access is forced, aircraft types is often '404' which reminds html error page. So do not know if can trust the results.
Generally, the information for TK is shown accurate, so no need for direct access, however, if direct access is forced, aircraft types is often '404' which reminds html error page. So do not know if can trust the results.
#630
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,931
Dear EF, could you please check if there are any problems with direct access to TK?
Generally, the information for TK is shown accurate, so no need for direct access, however, if direct access is forced, aircraft types is often '404' which reminds html error page. So do not know if can trust the results.
Generally, the information for TK is shown accurate, so no need for direct access, however, if direct access is forced, aircraft types is often '404' which reminds html error page. So do not know if can trust the results.
As you can see from the direct GDS output, this is what TK is returning. It is probably something that they will fix, however the availability results look the same as the non-direct access method so there is no issue with availability accuracy.
Code:
01APR SUN JFK/EDT IST/‡7
TK RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
7TK 12 C4 D3 J0 I0 R0 U7 O4 A0 Z0*JFKIST 1205A 445P 404 0
Y7 B7 M7 K7 H7
8TK 2 C4 D4 J0 I0 R0 U7 O2 A0 Z0*JFKIST 625P 1115A‡1 404 0
Y7 B7 M7 K7 H7
9VS 46 J4 C4 D4 I4 Z7 W7 S7 K7 Y7 JFKLHR 720P 740A‡1 744 0
B7
10TK1980 C4 D4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7 K7* IST 1125A 515P 333 0
H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7
11VS 10 J4 C4 D4 I4 Z7 W7 S7 K7 Y7 JFKLHR 1020P 1030A‡1 346 0
B7
12TK1990 C4 D4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7 K7* IST 200P 750P 321 0
H7 S7 E2 Q0 T0
13KL8441 J4 C4 D4 I4 Z7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 JFKBRU 735P 930A‡1 767 0
K7
14TK1938 C4 D4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7 K7* IST 1115A 335P 321 0
H7 S7 E7 Q7 T2
15LH 401 F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 Z0 Y0 B0 M0 JFKFRA 355P 535A‡1 744 0



