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KVS Jan 25, 2012 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by angeloedades (Post 17888306)
Hi KVS,

For some reason my Enhanced Seat Map functionality is not working.

Have posted on a forum before asking people for a seat map for a particular flight like BA7311 / in PE for 10 Aug 2012.

My basic seat map works but the enhanced one does not - the error is below:

Unable to find a matching flight, or the flight is not currently available for sale in the requested cabin class [2].

Please use the [Galileo: ETR] Method to bring-up that flight before accessing the Enhanced Seat Map:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 10 Aug 2012/BA 7311/SYD-LHR/388/Premium Economy]
Code:

    A  B  |  D  E  F  |  J  K 
34  X  X    +  +  +    X  X 
35  -  -    +  +  +    -  - 
36  -  -    +  +  +    +  + 
37  +  +    +  +  +    +  + 
38            +  +  +    +  + 
39  +  +    +  +  +         

[+] Available    [P] Preferred  [G] Galley
[-] Unavailable  [X] Blocked


broms Jan 26, 2012 12:13 am

Routing Rules
 
KVS-

I posted this issue a little over a week ago and it seems to still be abound. I cannot view routing rules for various fares, across Sabre, Galileo, or ATP method(s). I'm able to pull up fare basis, prices, etc., however routing rules constantly result in 'NO FARE IN SYSTEM'. I've spot checked different airlines, fare buckets, etc. to see if its a specific issue - alas, no.

I'm sitting on a Diamond membership, so I know I'm not insufficient in privileges. Is there something I'm not doing correctly?

Thanks!

jmoorfoot Jan 26, 2012 2:09 am

I can't see any * Alliance awards. I'm getting
Data Source Error[I]:

ANA

mxr Jan 26, 2012 2:52 am

Hello,

So I have just acquired the KVS Tool Diamond membership and I've been playing around with it a little bit in order to get a grip of things...

I have encountered a few problems and a question regarding fares.

I am a macbook user so I need to run the program through 'Crossover'

- When trying to search for fares with the Sabre tool, it gives me an error message (Galileo / ATP work fine)
- When trying to check for upgrade availability for UACO it gives me an error message saying UA MP settings are not set correctly ??
- When trying to search for *A award availability via SNT it also gives me an error message ("Engine Error [SF1-BKM]")
Here again, the ITA tool works fine.

Now I have a question regarding fares. I need to fly HKG-EWR(NYC) in late february. Im looking into getting the direct shuttle offered by UACO.
KVS tool gives me a fare at:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - ATP: Fares/FC/US]
Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
R/T 

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  Total    Q    YQYR  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ----  -------------
CO        HKG    EWR      723  USD      866        139  KLE0ZEC4
UA        HKG    EWR      723  USD      1000        277  KLE0ZEC4
CO        HKG    EWR      798  USD      941        139  KKE0ZEC4
UA        HKG    EWR      798  USD      1075        277  KKE0ZEC4

I understand that the total of 866 includes YQ surcharges?!
Now KLE0ZEC4 gives me:
1,078.40 USD on united and continental websites.

In the fare rules its also specified that this offer is valid until the 31.January - which probably means that I would have to book it by then to ensure that low fare?

thanks for helping.

KVS Jan 26, 2012 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by broms (Post 17889338)
I posted this issue a little over a week ago and it seems to still be abound. I cannot view routing rules for various fares, across Sabre, Galileo, or ATP method(s). I'm able to pull up fare basis, prices, etc., however routing rules constantly result in 'NO FARE IN SYSTEM'. I've spot checked different airlines, fare buckets, etc. to see if its a specific issue - alas, no.

I'm sitting on a Diamond membership, so I know I'm not insufficient in privileges. Is there something I'm not doing correctly?

As per the reply in Post #4507, there is currently an issue with the Routing Rules Engine for certain Fares. If there are any particular one(s) you are interested in, please feel free to PM their details (city pair/carrier/Fare Basis) and we will look them up for you.

KVS Jan 26, 2012 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by jmoorfoot (Post 17889584)
I can't see any * Alliance awards. I'm getting
Data Source Error[I]:

ANA


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
I am a macbook user so I need to run the program through 'Crossover'

- When trying to search for *A award availability via SNT it also gives me an error message ("Engine Error [SF1-BKM]")
Here again, the ITA tool works fine.

As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac, a bug in the CrossOver Mac system currently prevents the use of the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method by its Mac users.

Please use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method instead or consider switching to another solution, such as Parallels or VMWare for Mac.

KVS Jan 26, 2012 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
So I have just acquired the KVS Tool Diamond membership and I've been playing around with it a little bit in order to get a grip of things...

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
I have encountered a few problems and a question regarding fares.

- When trying to search for fares with the Sabre tool, it gives me an error message (Galileo / ATP work fine)

What is the error message?


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
- When trying to check for upgrade availability for UACO it gives me an error message saying UA MP settings are not set correctly ??

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_ITA_AwardsUpgrades_UA


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
Now I have a question regarding fares. I need to fly HKG-EWR(NYC) in late february. Im looking into getting the direct shuttle offered by UACO.
KVS tool gives me a fare at:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - ATP: Fares/FC/US]
Code:

HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
R/T 

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  Total    Q    YQYR  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ----  -------------
CO        HKG    EWR      723  USD      866        139  KLE0ZEC4
UA        HKG    EWR      723  USD      1000        277  KLE0ZEC4
CO        HKG    EWR      798  USD      941        139  KKE0ZEC4
UA        HKG    EWR      798  USD      1075        277  KKE0ZEC4

I understand that the total of 866 includes YQ surcharges?!
Now KLE0ZEC4 gives me:
1,078.40 USD on united and continental websites.

The Fuel Surcharge is actually $277 for both UA & CO Fares, so the total ticket price is $1 078 USD ($723 Base Fare + $277 YQ + $78 Taxes).


Originally Posted by mxr (Post 17889662)
In the fare rules its also specified that this offer is valid until the 31.January - which probably means that I would have to book it by then to ensure that low fare?

Yes, but the ticket price is also subject to Availability.

broms Jan 26, 2012 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17893386)
As per the reply in Post #4507, there is currently an issue with the Routing Rules Engine for certain Fares. If there are any particular one(s) you are interested in, please feel free to PM their details (city pair/carrier/Fare Basis) and we will look them up for you.

KVS - Thank you. I should've been a bit more polite in rephrasing my question to asked if the issue had been fixed yet ;)

Thanks again for all you do for us!

Homer15 Jan 27, 2012 10:32 am

I have been checking BA award availability and I am curious because sometimes it will let me check flights 355 days out, but often I will get an error message ("Please try using a different POS setting for this query."). Am I getting lucky when it will let me check +355, or is it a bug that it won't let me always check +355?

Now this is really obscure (and might belong on the BAEC board) but I am a little curious about how the +355 (or +354) rules work across time zones. Are the tickets released by BA at midnight GMT for anyone to book, or do people only have access to book whatever is available when the new day starts in their time zone (I am in the US, if you couldn't guess).

Last, I use KVS on both a PC and a mac (via crossover), but the mac has not been able to startup since the new version came out. I assume I have to uninstall and reinstall the new version?

mxr Jan 27, 2012 7:57 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17893565)
What is the error message?

either: Error 9001: Time-Out Requesting Data
or: Error 9002: No Data received

and: Error 12157: The Application Experienced An Internal Error Loading The SSL Libraries

actually this time after I clicked OK, a few fares showed up.


For the rest: Thanks alot!

mtshadow Jan 28, 2012 1:01 pm

How do I move beyond "Current Registration Code Has Expired"?
 
I'm current with a new registration (new member) as of a few days ago. I'm ready to do my homework and book a flight, but can't gain access to use the KVS tool.
Quick fix for me?
Thanks.

KVS Jan 28, 2012 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by mtshadow (Post 17904809)
I'm current with a new registration (new member) as of a few days ago.

Welcome to the KVS Tool & [posting on] FT!


Originally Posted by mtshadow (Post 17904809)
I'm ready to do my homework and book a flight, but can't gain access to use the KVS tool.
Quick fix for me?
Thanks.

Please check your E-Mail Inbox & Junk/Spam folders.

merc1234 Jan 28, 2012 10:43 pm

I have used KVS in the past, but it seems like I can't get the grip of it. I just searched for a DL award flight from JFK to NRT for 3 ppl on August 10th. KVS says "CX+" is available. From the legend I found in the FAQ's it should be mean there is J class available at any award level and enough seats. If I got to DL.com and try to look for this flight it shows up as medium award level. What exactly am I doing wrong or not understanding?

Snoopyo Jan 29, 2012 8:17 am

I had trouble to redownload KVS on a new work laptop which has 64 bit windows 7.0... It was trying to create a folder in windows 32..

jasonvr Jan 29, 2012 11:48 am


Originally Posted by Snoopyo (Post 17908561)
I had trouble to redownload KVS on a new work laptop which has 64 bit windows 7.0... It was trying to create a folder in windows 32..

No problem installing on two different Win 7 64 bit laptops here. Possibly a permission issue? Not sure if it needed to be installed as an admin on my work laptop.

KVS Jan 29, 2012 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by Homer15 (Post 17898197)
I have been checking BA award availability and I am curious because sometimes it will let me check flights 355 days out, but often I will get an error message ("Please try using a different POS setting for this query."). Am I getting lucky when it will let me check +355, or is it a bug that it won't let me always check +355?

Now this is really obscure (and might belong on the BAEC board) but I am a little curious about how the +355 (or +354) rules work across time zones. Are the tickets released by BA at midnight GMT for anyone to book, or do people only have access to book whatever is available when the new day starts in their time zone (I am in the US, if you couldn't guess).

Different time zones can, indeed, account for the +/- 1 day difference in the maximum date range. The date is normally based on the local time at the departure point (and is further subject to the limits of the GDS system used).


Originally Posted by Homer15 (Post 17898197)
Last, I use KVS on both a PC and a mac (via crossover), but the mac has not been able to startup since the new version came out. I assume I have to uninstall and reinstall the new version?

There should not be any issues like that. Could you please attach a screenshot via the Contact Form?

KVS Jan 29, 2012 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by merc1234 (Post 17907064)
I have used KVS in the past, but it seems like I can't get the grip of it. I just searched for a DL award flight from JFK to NRT for 3 ppl on August 10th. KVS says "CX+" is available. From the legend I found in the FAQ's it should be mean there is J class available at any award level and enough seats. If I got to DL.com and try to look for this flight it shows up as medium award level. What exactly am I doing wrong or not understanding?

As per the KVS Tool User Guide, xX indicates that you need to activate the [Info] mode to see the mileage level required:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_WSpan_Awards_DLSkyTeam

In this case, 110K SM corresponds to a Medium Level C Class Award.

The next version of the KVS Tool will be able to decode this automatically for most routes and show xS/xM/xA instead of xX.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.3/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:

JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
FRI  10 Aug 2012 | 3 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Information
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------
DL        173    JFK  14:10    NRT  16:55 +1  744  0  Dur: 13:45 | SM: 110K+2/60K+2 USD
DL/9E      3540    JFK  11:20    MSP  13:38    CR9  0  Dur: 03:18 | SM: 110K+5/80K+5 USD
 -> DL    621    MSP  15:10    NRT  17:35 +1  77L  0  Dur: 12:25
DL        1109    JFK  09:30    SEA  12:40    737  0  Dur: 06:10 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    155    SEA  14:10    NRT  16:35 +1  333  0  Dur: 10:25
DL        120    JFK  09:00    LAX  12:08    757  0  Dur: 06:08 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00    NRT  16:25 +1  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        183    JFK  07:40    SEA  10:55    757  0  Dur: 06:15 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    155    SEA  14:10    NRT  16:35 +1  333  0  Dur: 10:25
DL        763    JFK  07:00    LAX  10:09    757  0  Dur: 06:09 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00    NRT  16:25 +1  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        1865    JFK  07:00    SFO  10:25    757  0  Dur: 06:25 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15    NRT  16:40 +1  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        2363    JFK  21:00    LAX  00:15 +1  757  0  Dur: 06:15 | SM: 110K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00 +1  NRT  16:25 +2  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        199    JFK  20:00    SFO  23:40    757  0  Dur: 06:40 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15 +1  NRT  16:40 +2  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        386    JFK  19:35    PDX  22:58    737  0  Dur: 06:23 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    617    PDX  14:10 +1  NRT  16:55 +2  763  0  Dur: 10:45
DL        83      JFK  19:00    LAX  22:29    757  0  Dur: 06:29 | SM: 110K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00 +1  NRT  16:25 +2  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        6      JFK  18:00    SFO  21:35    757  0  Dur: 06:35 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15 +1  NRT  16:40 +2  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        51      JFK  17:00    LAX  20:30    757  0  Dur: 06:30 | SM: 110K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00 +1  NRT  16:25 +2  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        207    JFK  15:00    LAX  18:15    757  0  Dur: 06:15 | SM: 110K+5 USD
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00 +1  NRT  16:25 +2  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        1322    JFK  14:00    SFO  17:35    757  0  Dur: 06:35 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15 +1  NRT  16:40 +2  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        1765    JFK  10:00    SFO  13:27    757  0  Dur: 06:27 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15 +1  NRT  16:40 +2  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        1743    JFK  06:00    ATL  08:39    M88  0  Dur: 02:39 | SM: 110K+5/60K+5 USD
 -> DL    1655    ATL  09:40    LAX  11:47    763  0  Dur: 05:07
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00    NRT  16:25 +1  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        73      JFK  18:55    ATL  21:50    763  0  Dur: 02:55 | SM: 110K+8 USD
 -> DL    1455    ATL  07:30 +1  LAX  09:23 +1  757  0  Dur: 04:53
 -> DL    283    LAX  13:00 +1  NRT  16:25 +2  77L  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        1109    JFK  09:30    SEA  12:40    737  0  Dur: 06:10 | SM: 110K+19/60K+19 USD
 -> DL    129    SEA  19:10    PEK  22:05 +1  763  0  Dur: 11:55
 -> DL    618    PEK  08:20 +2  NRT  13:35 +2  763  0  Dur: 04:15
DL        183    JFK  07:40    SEA  10:55    757  0  Dur: 06:15 | SM: 110K+19/60K+19 USD
 -> DL    129    SEA  19:10    PEK  22:05 +1  763  0  Dur: 11:55
 -> DL    618    PEK  08:20 +2  NRT  13:35 +2  763  0  Dur: 04:15
DL        31      JFK  16:00    SFO  19:35    757  0  Dur: 06:35 | SM: 60K+5 USD
 -> DL    209    SFO  13:15 +1  NRT  16:40 +2  763  0  Dur: 11:25
DL        2077    JFK  15:45    PDX  19:10    737  0  Dur: 06:25 | SM: 60K+5 USD
 -> DL    617    PDX  14:10 +1  NRT  16:55 +2  763  0  Dur: 10:45
DL        1743    JFK  06:00    ATL  08:39    M88  0  Dur: 02:39 | SM: 60K+5 USD
 -> DL    1082    ATL  12:20    DTW  14:19    757  0  Dur: 01:59
 -> DL    275    DTW  15:30    NRT  17:30 +1  744  0  Dur: 13:00
DL        1743    JFK  06:00    ATL  08:39    M88  0  Dur: 02:39 | SM: 60K+5 USD
 -> DL    1640    ATL  10:00    DTW  12:14    757  0  Dur: 02:14
 -> DL    275    DTW  15:30    NRT  17:30 +1  744  0  Dur: 13:00
DL        1743    JFK  06:00    ATL  08:39    M88  0  Dur: 02:39 | SM: 60K+5 USD
 -> DL    748    ATL  11:15    DTW  13:15    M90  0  Dur: 02:00
 -> DL    275    DTW  15:30    NRT  17:30 +1  744  0  Dur: 13:00


KVS Jan 29, 2012 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by Snoopyo (Post 17908561)
I had trouble to redownload KVS on a new work laptop which has 64 bit windows 7.0... It was trying to create a folder in windows 32..


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 17909493)
No problem installing on two different Win 7 64 bit laptops here. Possibly a permission issue? Not sure if it needed to be installed as an admin on my work laptop.

Indeed, there should be no issues in installing the KVS Tool on a 64-bit version of Windows 7/Vista, as long as you have the administrative privileges. Otherwise, you can install the KVS Tool into a location of your choice by selecting the [Portable Installation] option during the Setup.

Homer15 Jan 29, 2012 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17909900)
There should not be any issues like that. Could you please attached a screenshot via the Contact Form?

I would if I could, but the symptom was that the program would just hang during startup before the screen for the tool even showed up. I did go ahead and uninstall/download/reinstall (in the same crossover bottle) and it seems to be working again.

robe0341 Jan 30, 2012 8:45 am

Data Source Error [R]: "3203"
 
My tool was working on Friday, but today, when i try to look at Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld award availability I get the 3203 error.

I also get errors Data Source Error [RW-1] with Awards/JL-OneWorld.

These are both queries I had saved and worked on Friday. I upgraded to 6.9.3/Diamond and am still having problems. Any idea what the issue is?

alinghi90 Jan 30, 2012 8:49 am

I've the diamond version and right now nothing is working in the tool! (Also mobile companion doesn't work) Always errors. (Version 6.9.3). Didn't have problems before...
Can you help me?

damaxer91 Jan 30, 2012 10:16 am


Originally Posted by alinghi90 (Post 17914808)
I've the diamond version and right now nothing is working in the tool! (Also mobile companion doesn't work) Always errors. (Version 6.9.3). Didn't have problems before...
Can you help me?

+2!!!

golfmad Jan 30, 2012 10:20 am


Originally Posted by damaxer91 (Post 17915412)
+2!!!

There was a systemwide Amadeus problem today. I don't think it's a specific KVS issue. See this thread for example. There are probably others on FT as well as it's affected more than just BA.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1308420-all-bookings-disappeared-ba-com.html

KVS Jan 30, 2012 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by robe0341 (Post 17914780)
My tool was working on Friday, but today, when i try to look at Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld award availability I get the 3203 error.

I also get errors Data Source Error [RW-1] with Awards/JL-OneWorld.

These are both queries I had saved and worked on Friday. I upgraded to 6.9.3/Diamond and am still having problems. Any idea what the issue is?


Originally Posted by alinghi90 (Post 17914808)
I've the diamond version and right now nothing is working in the tool! (Also mobile companion doesn't work) Always errors. (Version 6.9.3). Didn't have problems before...
Can you help me?


Originally Posted by damaxer91 (Post 17915412)
+2!!!


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 17915440)
There was a systemwide Amadeus problem today. I don't think it's a specific KVS issue. See this thread for example. There are probably others on FT as well as it's affected more than just BA.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1308420-all-bookings-disappeared-ba-com.html

Indeed, there was a major Amadeus system outage earlier on today, which lasted approximately 3 hours:
http://www.Telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...ter-crash.html

All systems should now be working normally.

For access to the [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Method, please upgrade to KVS Tool V6.9.4.

SuperFlyBoy Jan 30, 2012 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17916475)
Indeed, there was a major Amadeus system outage earlier on today, which lasted approximately 3 hours:
http://www.Telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...ter-crash.html

All systems should now be working normally.

:(

I was trying to book an LH ticket for tonight and I couldn't!

Really ridiculous that there aren't any backup systems....I really needed to fly...

onlysuites Jan 31, 2012 2:43 pm

Edit- Worked it out

KVS Feb 1, 2012 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by former230 (Post 17877501)
Just wanted to say that this tool has been very helpful so far. I am looking for a U class reward on CX next november and the same on a KA flight. I signed up as a diamond member and this tool has been a lot of fun and helpful. Still waiting for CX to release the inventory though!

Thanks for making this tool available!

A belated welcome to the KVS Tool!

Glad you're enjoying the CX Award Availability functionality and best of luck in finding your desired award.

KVS Feb 1, 2012 3:50 pm

KVS Tool: Version 6.9.4 Release -- What's New
 
Version 6.9.4 Release -- What's New:

  • New [Fares: ATP/FC] http://www.kvstool.com/Images/BetaBlue25.gif Method replaces [Fares/TVN]

  • Resolved: [Awards/M&M], [Awards/DL-SkyTeam], [Awards/JL-OneWorld], [Seat Map: Amadeus/Text] & [ITA Query Builder] Issues

  • Added: LO/AY/9W PNR Support

  • Added: Time option for the [Awards/CX] Method

  • Enhanced: DL SM Award Level (xX) Automatic Decoder functionality for the [Awards/DL] Method

http://www.KVSTool.com/Images/Download55.gif Download

NWR Feb 1, 2012 4:26 pm

UA saver vs. standard award in KVS
 
Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.

KVS Feb 1, 2012 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17933223)
Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.

There sure is -- please see:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

uncleflori Feb 2, 2012 5:54 am

Error RD-3
 
Hi,
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"

System: Windows7 64bit (but I also tried on VMachine Win-XP and native XP)

What I tried so far:
- changing cookies settings
- uninstall/re-install
- re-register *.OCX

Any suggestions? :confused:

onlysuites Feb 2, 2012 8:38 am

I can't search Skyteam awards anymore since last nights upgrade. It says that the KVS tool might not be up to date.

KVS Feb 2, 2012 10:07 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 17937324)
I can't search Skyteam awards anymore since last nights upgrade. It says that the KVS tool might not be up to date.

The [Awards/SkyTeam] Engine is currently unavailable.

Please use the [Awards/DL-SkyTeam] Method in the meantime and monitor the announcements on the KVS Tool Homepage.

KVS Feb 2, 2012 10:07 am


Originally Posted by uncleflori (Post 17936297)
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"

System: Windows7 64bit (but I also tried on VMachine Win-XP and native XP)

What I tried so far:
- changing cookies settings
- uninstall/re-install
- re-register *.OCX

Any suggestions? :confused:

Which KVS Tool version are you running?

thetravelabstract Feb 2, 2012 10:45 am

Noob at KVS TOOL. I am trying to learn how to do everything but I think I might be missing some steps.

I am looking for Cheapest fares NYC-FCO or Milan. I chose the EI fare for search.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FCO  Rome Fiumicino IT [LIRF]
R/T  26 Feb 2012 | 07 Mar 2013 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TP        NYC    ROM        70  USD                      ULEUROPE
TP        NYC    ROM      150  USD                      ALEUROPE
AA        NYC    ROM      239  USD                      OLX7Q2Z1
UA        NYC    ROM      239  USD                      TLXNC22S
US        NYC    ROM      239  USD                      WLXET7EA
UX        NYC    ROM      239  USD                      PLXPRO2
SK        NYC    ROM      259  USD                      LLUSCE22
EI        NYC    ROM      288  USD                      WLXFTSUS
DL        NYC    ROM      289  USD                      TLXP47US
AZ        NYC    ROM      289  USD                      LLXP47US
AF        NYC    ROM      289  USD                      NLXP47US
US        NYC    ROM      289  USD                      VLWET7EA
US        NYC    ROM      289  USD                      VLXET7EU
AB        NYC    ROM      295  USD                      EFLYRT2
AA        NYC    ROM      299  USD                      QLX7Q2Z1
UA        NYC    ROM      299  USD                      SLXNC22T
UX        NYC    ROM      299  USD                      QLXPRO2
TP        NYC    ROM      300  USD                      KLTAPEU
EI        NYC    ROM      308  USD                      WLXFTUS
EI        NYC    ROM      328  USD                      WLWFTSUS
US        NYC    ROM      339  USD                      VLWET7EU
EI        NYC    ROM      348  USD                      WLWFTUS
SU        NYC    ROM      350  USD                      LLPX
UA        NYC    ROM      359  USD                      WLXNC22U
TK        NYC    ROM      368  USD                      GNPB3M
AB        NYC    ROM      373  USD                      PFLYRT2
DL        NYC    ROM      389  USD                      ULXP47US
AZ        NYC    ROM      389  USD                      SLXP47US
AY        NYC    ROM      395  USD                      RLXECO
TP        NYC    ROM      420  USD                      VLTAPEU
AY        NYC    ROM      435  USD                      RLWECO
UX        NYC    ROM      448  USD                      ULXSX2MS
SU        NYC    ROM      450  USD                      WLPX
AB        NYC    ROM      463  USD                      OFLYRT2
AY        NYC    ROM      465  USD                      ZLXECO
TK        NYC    ROM      473  USD                      WNPB3M
AA        NYC    ROM      477  USD                      NLXE2NA
UA        NYC    ROM      477  USD                      SLX6NCE
SK        NYC    ROM      477  USD                      KLUSEUE
UX        NYC    ROM      498  USD                      ULWSX2MS
AY        NYC    ROM      505  USD                      ZLWECO
DL        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      ULXB67US
AZ        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      NLXB67US
AF        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      TLXB67US
AA        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      NLXD2NA
US        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      NLWETNE1
US        NYC    ROM      527  USD                      NLXETNE1
AY        NYC    ROM      535  USD                      OLXECO
SK        NYC    ROM      537  USD                      WLUSEUE
BA        NYC    ROM      539  USD                      TLXNCNA1


Then it looks like there are W4 in the availabilty search. In theory there should be a way to check if I can buy these right?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

FCO  Rome Fiumicino IT [LIRF]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
DUB  Dublin IE [EIDW]
WED  07 Mar 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
EI        403    FCO  12:10    DUB  14:30    320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 V4 N4 L4 O4 Q4 X4 S4 R4 W4 Z4 T4 G4
 -> EI    109    DUB  15:45    JFK  18:20    330      J4 C4 D0 U? I4 Y4 B4 H4 M4 V4 N4 L4 O4 Q4 X4 T4 S4 R4 W4 G4


When I use the Find Flights using ITA option nothing comes back. Has ITA changed the language of their search engine. Or does that mean this flight is not available? Because I can do a Kayak.com search and find fares that do not appear on ITA.

I just want to know if there are any sites that KVS TOOL knows can search for this fare class on this flight. Thanks. Even if it is not with EI can I book any of those cheaper fares?

KVS Feb 2, 2012 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by thetravelabstract (Post 17938262)
Noob at KVS TOOL. I am trying to learn how to do everything but I think I might be missing some steps.

I am looking for Cheapest fares NYC-FCO or Milan. I chose the EI fare for search.

Then it looks like there are W4 in the availabilty search. In theory there should be a way to check if I can buy these right?

When I use the Find Flights using ITA option nothing comes back. Has ITA changed the language of their search engine. Or does that mean this flight is not available? Because I can do a Kayak.com search and find fares that do not appear on ITA.

I just want to know if there are any sites that KVS TOOL knows can search for this fare class on this flight. Thanks. Even if it is not with EI can I book any of those cheaper fares?

Your return date is outside of the Seasonality period and the outbound date is a Sunday:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: NYC-ROM/EI/WLXFTSUS/288 USD]
Code:

[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 01FEB12 THROUGH 29FEB12 FOR EACH TRIP.
SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.


[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU.

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
AER LINGUS PUBLIC FARES FROM THE USA TO IRELAND/
EUROPE.
APPLICATION
 AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY
  FROM UNITED STATES
  TO IRELAND
  ANDEUROPE.
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
  SERVICE.
 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
  ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
  THESE FARES ONLY APPLY WHEN PURCHASED PRIOR TO
  COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
  CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
  THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
  AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
  WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
  FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
  JUDGEMENT.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY EI FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
FARE RULE
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 30 MINUTES BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 30 MINUTES BEFORE DEPARTURE.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION
  ONLY AT THE GATEWAY IN IRELAND.

[Transfers]
4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
      1 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES/EUROPE IN EACH
    DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Surcharges]
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
OTHERWISE
  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 95.00 PER
  DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
  DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.

[Sales Restrictions]
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 09FEB12.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      FOR TKTS SOLD IN U.S.--EI IMPOSES A SERVICE
      CHARGE OF USD 35.00 FOR EACH PTA.
      THIS CHARGE IST NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT
      AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED.
      EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
      GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE CARRIER.  CONTACT
      CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
FARE RULE
CANCELLATIONS

  ANY TIME
    TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      FOR TICKET TO HAVE ANY FUTURE VALUE ALL CHANGES
      MUST BE MADE PRIOR TO ORIGINAL FLIGHT SCHEDULED
      DEPARTURE TIME.
      GOVERNMENT TAX REFUND REQUEST MUST BE MADE
      WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE BOOKED TRAVEL DATE.

CHANGES

  ANY TIME
    CHARGE USD 150.00/EUR 100.00 FOR REISSUE/
REVALIDATION.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      ANY TIME CHANGES CHARGE USD150.00/EUR 100.00/
      GBP90.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
      -------
      PER PERSON PER DIRECTION. FOR ALL ITINERARIES
      THAT INCLUDE AN ADD-ON FROM IRELAND INTO EUROPE
      THE CHARGE SHALL BE USD 210.00/EUR140.00/GBP120.00
      PER DIRECTION.
      ---
      IF A CHANGE RESULTS IN A FARE OF HIGHER VALUE
      THE ADDITIONAL COLLECTION WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
      IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHARGES APPLY PER
      DIRECTION.
      CHANGES SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY-
      CAN BE MADE UP TO 2 HOURS PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT
      SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME.
      ---
      CHANGE FEES/FARES DIFFERENCES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
      ---
      CHANGES ONLY PERMITTED FROM SAME COUNTRY OF
      ORIGIN ONLY.
      ---
      NAME CHANGES
      NAME CHANGES PERMITTED ON AER LINGUS DIRECT
      SERVICES ONLY FOR A FEE OF USD 157.00/EUR 100.00/
      GBP080.00 PER PERSON AND MAY BE CHANGED UP TO 2
      HOURS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF JOURNEY.
      NAME MUST BE CHANGED FOR ALL FLIGHTS IN THE
      ITINERARY.
      NAME CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED FROM OFFLINE POINTS


      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      IF A CHANGE RESULTS IN A FARE OF HIGHER VALUE
      THE ADDITIONAL COLLECTION WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
      IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHARGES APPLY PER
      DIRECTION.
      CHANGES SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY-
      CAN BE MADE UP TO 2 HOURS PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT
      SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME.
      ---
      CHANGE FEES/FARES DIFFERENCES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
      ---
      CHANGES ONLY PERMITTED FROM SAME COUNTRY OF
      ORIGIN ONLY.
      ---
      NAME CHANGES
      NAME CHANGES PERMITTED ON AER LINGUS DIRECT
      SERVICES ONLY FOR A FEE OF USD 157.00/EUR 100.00/
      GBP080.00 PER PERSON AND MAY BE CHANGED UP TO 2
      HOURS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF JOURNEY.
      NAME MUST BE CHANGED FOR ALL FLIGHTS IN THE
      ITINERARY.
      NAME CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED FROM OFFLINE POINTS
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CANCELLATIONS

  PER TICKET CHARGE USD 50.00/CAD 65.00 FOR LOST
TICKET.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      1-NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY
      PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S.
      GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169.
      2-NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR TICKETS
      LOST WITH THE INITIAL MAILING OF TELEMAIL TICKETS.

[Combinations]
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
  COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
  RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
  TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
  CIRCLE TRIPS.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EI IN
    RULE 2100/2200/2300 IN TARIFF
    IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
    OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
    FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
    TAPVR  - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER RE
    IRELAND IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NO REFUND PERMITTED - AND - FEES/FARE DIFF APPLY -
IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 90 PERCENT OF
  THE FARE.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
      CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 90
      PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
      AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Agent Discounts]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
      AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Changes]
NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.

[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE


NWR Feb 2, 2012 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17933223)
Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17933785)
There sure is -- please see:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

I'm sorry I can't seem to understand. It seems the link you posted only takes me to "Interpreting Results - Fares". I do see some discussion under "Award, Upgrade & Other Special Booking Classes Supported in KVS Tool" for UA where it's indicated that F C Y are "KVS additional" awards (UA MP standard). But I don't see where it's shows how "KVS standard" are listed. Perhaps you could show me and example of how KVS additional and standard awards are displayed in results using [ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]?

Thanks so much for your help.

KVS Feb 2, 2012 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17939832)
I'm sorry I can't seem to understand. It seems the link you posted only takes me to "Interpreting Results - Fares".

It shouldn't: http://help.kvstool.com/#Classes


Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17939832)
I do see some discussion under "Award, Upgrade & Other Special Booking Classes Supported in KVS Tool" for UA

Yes, that is the correct section.


Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17939832)
where it's indicated that F C Y are "KVS additional" awards (UA MP standard). But I don't see where it's shows how "KVS standard" are listed. Perhaps you could show me and example of how KVS additional and standard awards are displayed in results using [ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]?

Thanks so much for your help.

There you go:

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/157/uaclasses.gif

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:

WAS  Washington Metro DC US = IAD DCA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
SAT  17 Mar 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------
UA        922    IAD  09:37    LHR  21:00    763  0  XY9 NY9 XF1 NF1 XC4 NC9
UA        918    IAD  19:46    LHR  06:55 +1  777  0  XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 XC0 NC3
UA        924    IAD  23:02    LHR  10:15 +1  777  0  XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 XC0 NC7


uncleflori Feb 3, 2012 1:17 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17938016)
Which KVS Tool version are you running?

Version 6.9.4.

KVS Feb 3, 2012 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by uncleflori (Post 17936297)
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"


Originally Posted by uncleflori (Post 17943255)
Version 6.9.4.

Are you sure you have cleared & verified your MSIE Cookie Settings (after closing the KVS Tool)?

If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via the Contact Form.

The [Awards/M&M] Method continues to function normally, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M]
Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
THU  01 Mar 2012 | 08 Mar 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        400    FRA  10:25    JFK  13:15    346      FS-  CS-  YS+
LH        402    FRA  13:20    EWR  15:45    744      FS-  CS-  YS+
LH        404    FRA  17:30    JFK  20:30    346      FS-  CS+  YS+



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