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KVS Jan 4, 2012 1:45 pm
Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17746875)
UA SFO-IAD Jan 15 flight 355 is showing availability in T, L, K, G. But these codes do not show up in the "Fares" search, if I am reading it correctly. Why not? Thank you!
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1

NWR Jan 4, 2012 7:28 pm
Routing Rules
 
Hello again,

Fare search UA Feb 8 o/w eco. Under both codes SATG7GS and WAT7GS when I attempt to view routing rules I get "No Fare In System". With both Sabre and Galileo. Any resolution to this? Thanks much again.

SuperFlyBoy Jan 5, 2012 5:43 am
Incorrect post, deleted.

KVS Jan 5, 2012 6:07 pm
Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17749579)
Fare search UA Feb 8 o/w eco. Under both codes SATG7GS and WAT7GS when I attempt to view routing rules I get "No Fare In System". With both Sabre and Galileo. Any resolution to this? Thanks much again.
These appear to be recently-loaded Fares, so there may be a bit of a delay, before the Routing Rules engine is able to 'see' them...

However, their Routing Rules are likely to be the same as for the other UA S/W-class Fares for that city pair:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.1/Diamond - Routing Rules: SFO-WAS/UA/SA21GND/211 USD]
Code:
SFOWAS-UA 08FEB12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 60G1
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
SA21GND              214.88    16.12      231.00  ADT  EX   
SA21GND              214.88    16.12      231.00  CNN  EX   
SA21GND                0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
SA21GND              214.88    16.12      231.00  INS  EX   
SA21GND              214.88    16.12      231.00  JNN  EX   
SA21GND                0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
SA21GND              214.88    16.12      231.00  JNS  EX   
BOOKING CODES        S                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***               
        947 FROM-TO  SFO-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/     
                      CLT-WAS*                                 
            FROM-TO  SFO-CHI/DEN/HOU-WAS*                     
            FROM-TO  SFO-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/     
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-WAS*                         
            FROM-TO  SFO-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-WAS*
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.1/Diamond - Routing Rules: SFO-WAS/UA/WA21GND/284 USD]
Code:
SFOWAS-UA 08FEB12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 60G1
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
WA21GND              289.30    21.70      311.00  ADT  EX   
WA21GND              289.30    21.70      311.00  CNN  EX   
WA21GND                0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
WA21GND              289.30    21.70      311.00  INS  EX   
WA21GND              289.30    21.70      311.00  JNN  EX   
WA21GND                0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
WA21GND              289.30    21.70      311.00  JNS  EX   
BOOKING CODES        W                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***               
        947 FROM-TO  SFO-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/     
                      CLT-WAS*                                 
            FROM-TO  SFO-CHI/DEN/HOU-WAS*                     
            FROM-TO  SFO-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/     
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-WAS*                         
            FROM-TO  SFO-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-WAS*

Huff DeLand Jan 6, 2012 6:17 am
Searching VA Awards
 
I'm a new user, trying Diamond level for 2 months (although the GUI tells me I have only two days left - what's up with that?)

Can I search VA inventory? And, if so, how?

Thanks - JD

Football Fan Jan 6, 2012 6:19 am
What's the status on a Mac version? I would renew only if a native Mac version comes out. Aren't Macs gaining more and more market share?

golfmad Jan 6, 2012 7:54 am
Originally Posted by attorney28 (Post 17759515)
What's the status on a Mac version? I would renew only if a native Mac version comes out. Aren't Macs gaining more and more market share?
I still find there are quite a few application that don't run on my mac so I use parallels virtualisation software for all of them including KVS. Works a treat. There's VMware as well and a couple others.

Gamecock Jan 6, 2012 10:43 am
Just joined, looks great so far. Of course the test will be when I try to book 5 award seats later this year.;) Am spending my time playing around with the options so when I hit 330 days I can give AA a call.

JIMCHI Jan 6, 2012 11:09 am
It is not consistently 330 days when award availability is loaded. For example, AA domestic flights are loaded today for 331 days out. But JFK-LHR is loaded only 321 days out. International seems to vary by route.

NWR Jan 6, 2012 11:21 am
When will the [Fares/TVN] method resume?
 
I looked through the forum and website but could not find any info regarding when it will be available again. Thank you.

BTW Happy New Year to you too! (I intended to respond to your message on the application but I clicked wrong and the opportunity vanished forever :)

Gamecock Jan 6, 2012 1:23 pm
Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 17761258)
It is not consistently 330 days when award availability is loaded. For example, AA domestic flights are loaded today for 331 days out. But JFK-LHR is loaded only 321 days out. International seems to vary by route.
Right.

But it is my understanding that CX is 330 days, if using AA miles. (Am I right on this?)

JIMCHI Jan 6, 2012 1:34 pm
Once AA has loaded any of its own schedules, they should be able to book award space on another carrier, if that carrier has released its space. As of today, CX is showing award inventory well past 331 days. AA has opened up its schedules for 331 days (through December 2, 2012) so award space for CX is possibly available for that date also.

Gamecock Jan 6, 2012 4:04 pm
Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 17762303)
Once AA has loaded any of its own schedules, they should be able to book award space on another carrier, if that carrier has released its space. As of today, CX is showing award inventory well past 331 days. AA has opened up its schedules for 331 days (through December 2, 2012) so award space for CX is possibly available for that date also.
Cool. Thanks!:D

KVS Jan 6, 2012 7:08 pm
Originally Posted by attorney28 (Post 17759515)
What's the status on a Mac version? I would renew only if a native Mac version comes out. Aren't Macs gaining more and more market share?
Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 17759947)
I still find there are quite a few application that don't run on my mac so I use parallels virtualisation software for all of them including KVS. Works a treat. There's VMware as well and a couple others.
A separate native Mac version is not currently feasible. However, it is also unnecessary -- as golfmad had mentioned, many KVS Tool users successfully run it on their favourite Mac systems, using one of the solutions, listed at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

KVS Jan 6, 2012 7:14 pm
Originally Posted by Huff DeLand (Post 17759503)
I'm a new user, trying Diamond level for 2 months (although the GUI tells me I have only two days left - what's up with that?)
Welcome to the KVS Tool! The 2 days is based on your Temporary Registration Code. Once your Permanent Credentials are issued, this will be adjusted accordingly.

Originally Posted by Huff DeLand (Post 17759503)
Can I search VA inventory? And, if so, how?
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes for a list of airlines, for which Award Availability is supported in the KVS Tool. At the moment, VA isn't one of them.

KVS Jan 6, 2012 7:17 pm
Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17761353)
I looked through the forum and website but could not find any info regarding when it will be available again. Thank you.
The [Fares/TVN] Engine no longer exists and will be replaced by a new Method in the upcoming KVS Tool release.

Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17761353)
BTW Happy New Year to you too! (I intended to respond to your message on the application but I clicked wrong and the opportunity vanished forever :)
Thanks! :)

KVS Jan 6, 2012 7:19 pm
Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 17761052)
Just joined, looks great so far. Of course the test will be when I try to book 5 award seats later this year.;) Am spending my time playing around with the options so when I hit 330 days I can give AA a call.
Welcome to the KVS Tool & good luck with your award search!

KVS Jan 9, 2012 7:51 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17698664)
Originally Posted by earendil31 (Post 17669769)
Just installed the newest version, diamond level, and I keep getting 12029 errors when trying to use the "find flights with this fare" feature. There is no personal firewall, my anti-virus is disabled, I don't use a proxy, and I even tried lowering IEs security settings to essentially nothing. It refuses to work. The entire rest of the program works great, only that one feature gives me errors. Any thoughts?
The [ITA Query Builder] feature is currently unavailable, as the ITA Matrix1 engine has, sadly, been decommissioned earlier on this month:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...tware-com.html

We are looking into alternative solutions and an update will be posted on the KVS Tool Homepage when it becomes available.
The new [ITA Query Builder] for ITA Matrix 2 is now available in KVS Tool V6.9.0.

Football Fan Jan 10, 2012 1:03 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17764113)
A separate native Mac version is not currently feasible. However, it is also unnecessary -- as golfmad had mentioned, many KVS Tool users successfully run it on their favourite Mac systems, using one of the solutions, listed at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac
Well, that's what I have been doing, too, but it seems kind of silly to me to basically run a different operating system just for one program - I don't need Windows for anything else than the KVS Tool.

KVS Jan 10, 2012 4:08 pm
Originally Posted by attorney28 (Post 17787248)
Well, that's what I have been doing, too, but it seems kind of silly to me to basically run a different operating system just for one program - I don't need Windows for anything else than the KVS Tool.
There are solutions available that do not require a separate OS -- the KVS Tool simply appears just like any other App right on the Mac desktop:

http://www.kvstool.com/Images/Screen..._CrossOver.gif

cptraveller Jan 10, 2012 8:40 pm
I have downloaded the KVS tool and trying to find award ticket availability (business class) in cathay pacific.. when i go to awards/upgrades tab i dont see cathay in the drop down.. Am i doing this wrong and how can i search for the business award availability on certain dates ?

thanks

JIMCHI Jan 10, 2012 9:03 pm
I am a Diamond member. I see a separate drown down menu for CX.

mitsou_jpn Jan 10, 2012 10:47 pm
Originally Posted by NWR (Post 17749579)
Hello again,

Fare search UA Feb 8 o/w eco. Under both codes SATG7GS and WAT7GS when I attempt to view routing rules I get "No Fare In System". With both Sabre and Galileo. Any resolution to this? Thanks much again.
I've been getting the same message when I tried to view routing rules. I wanted to find out routing rules with the AC fare, KLXCSTF. If anyone can help, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.

KVS Jan 11, 2012 12:20 am
Originally Posted by mitsou_jpn (Post 17790657)
I've been getting the same message when I tried to view routing rules. I wanted to find out routing rules with the AC fare, KLXCSTF. If anyone can help, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.
The Routing Rules for that Fare should be the same as below:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.0/Diamond - Routing Rules: YVR-SIN/AC/SLXCS/875 CAD]
Code:
YVRSIN-AC 12JAN12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE CCSE
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
SLXCS          R    875.00    884.63              ADT  EX  PA
SLXCSCH        R    656.00    663.22              CNN  EX  PA
SLXCSIN        R    88.00    88.96              INF  EX  PA
SLXCSCH        R    656.00    663.22              INS  EX  PA
SLXCS          R    875.00    884.63              UNN  EX  PA
BOOKING CODES        S                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XEX - REGULAR EXCURSION                   
MPM - PA  9556 VIA PACIFIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  302 FROM-TO  YVR-BJS/SHA-CA/TG/MH/PR/VN/SQ-SIN*       
            FROM-TO  YVR-HKG/TYO-AC/SQ/UA/NH/CA/CX-SIN*       
            FROM-TO  YVR-SEL-AC/OZ/KE-SIN*                   
            FROM-TO  YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-SIN*                   
            FROM-TO  YVR-TYO-NH-SIN*

KVS Jan 11, 2012 12:23 am
Originally Posted by cptraveller (Post 17790136)
I have downloaded the KVS tool
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 17790246)
and trying to find award ticket availability (business class) in cathay pacific.. when i go to awards/upgrades tab i dont see cathay in the drop down.. Am i doing this wrong and how can i search for the business award availability on certain dates ?
Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 17790246)
I am a Diamond member. I see a separate drown down menu for CX.
CX Award Availability is accessible via 4 different Methods in the KVS Tool, including [Awards/JL-OneWorld]. Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_OneWorld for details.

mitsou_jpn Jan 11, 2012 8:55 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17790931)
The Routing Rules for that Fare should be the same as below:
Thank you.

sinecure Jan 12, 2012 12:10 pm
looking at CX889 for April 6th, and when i bring up the seat map for cattle rows are missing, extra isles are added. I assume this is a problem with the system that KVS is pulling the data from?

Is this a normal issues? How long does it normally take them to resolve?
Or does this mean they are changing something like the plane type?

Thanks for your feedback.

S.

KVS Jan 12, 2012 2:05 pm
Originally Posted by sinecure (Post 17801142)
looking at CX889 for April 6th, and when i bring up the seat map for cattle rows are missing, extra isles are added. I assume this is a problem with the system that KVS is pulling the data from?

Is this a normal issues? How long does it normally take them to resolve?
Or does this mean they are changing something like the plane type?

Thanks for your feedback.
The Enhanced Seat Map shows the correct layout for 744. Rows 39-43 do not exist on that A/C type.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.0/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 07 Apr 2012/CX 839/YVR-HKG/744/Economy]
Code:
    A  B  C  |  D  E  F  G  |  H  J  K 
30  +  +  +                    +  +  + 
31  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
32  -  -  -    -  -  -  -    -  -  - 
33  -  -  -    -  +  +  -    -  -  + 
34  -  -  -    -  +  +  -    -  -  - 
35  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
36  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
37  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
38  +  +  +    -  -  +  -    +  +  + 
44  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
45  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
46  +  +  +    -  +  +  +    +  +  + 
47  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
48  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
49  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
50  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
51  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
52  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
53  +  +  +                    +  +  + 
54              +  +  +  +             
55  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
56  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
57  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
58  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
59  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
60  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
61  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
62  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
63  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
64  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
65  +  +  +    +  +  +  +    +  +  + 
66  +    +    +  +  +  +    +    + 
67  +    +    +  +  +  +    +    + 
68  +    -    +  +  +  +    +    + 
69              +  +  +  +             

[+] Available    [P] Preferred  [G] Galley
[-] Unavailable  [X] Blocked

sinecure Jan 12, 2012 2:40 pm
The flight you mentioned is for the 7th and looks good. I am looking at the 6th for CX 889 YVR-HKG

http://twitpic.com/86htwz/full

Here is what I am seeing.

KVS Jan 12, 2012 4:12 pm
Originally Posted by sinecure (Post 17802266)
The flight you mentioned is for the 7th and looks good. I am looking at the 6th for CX 889 YVR-HKG

http://twitpic.com/86htwz/full

Here is what I am seeing.
Looks like CX hasn't yet fully updated some systems with its latest 777 config (77H):

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...-will-77h.html

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.0/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]
Code:
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
FRI  06 Apr 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX        889    YVR  02:45    HKG  06:55 +1  77H  0  FS0  CS0  YS0
CX        839    YVR  14:50    HKG  18:55 +1  74A  0  FS1  CS0  YS0

sinecure Jan 12, 2012 4:59 pm
Ahh that would explain the mystery.

Thanks!

igopogo Jan 12, 2012 10:20 pm
Two newbie questions
 
Hi, I just downloaded and I'm excited to take this for a spin. Two questions:

I can search for fares domestically and for some less traveled international destinations using ATP, but most often it times out with international requests, after either [2W] or [3W] appears in the status bar. I'm thinking this is just a matter of extending the time-out timer, is there a way?

I'm trying the "My Bookings" tool with AA. Seems like none of the sources give me any interesting information. I know this is not exactly the top feature of the program, but I'm trying everything :) Hints?

Thanks

KVS Jan 13, 2012 1:35 pm
Originally Posted by igopogo (Post 17804743)
Hi, I just downloaded and I'm excited to take this for a spin. Two questions:
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by igopogo (Post 17804743)
I can search for fares domestically and for some less traveled international destinations using ATP, but most often it times out with international requests, after either [2W] or [3W] appears in the status bar. I'm thinking this is just a matter of extending the time-out timer, is there a way?
There sure is -- please see http://Errors.KVSTool.com/

Originally Posted by igopogo (Post 17804743)
I'm trying the "My Bookings" tool with AA. Seems like none of the sources give me any interesting information. I know this is not exactly the top feature of the program, but I'm trying everything :) Hints?
Sounds like you are doing everything correctly :).

SlRlUS Jan 15, 2012 6:17 am
Is it just me? Since the recent Amadeus blackout, i can't manage to find any realistic award flights result:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
SAT  08 Sep 2012 | 15 Sep 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LH        98      FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +7  321
LH        100    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +8  321
LH        102    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +9  321
LH        104    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +9  321
LH        106    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        108    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        110    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        112    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        114    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        116    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        118    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +1  321
LH        120    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +2  321
LH        122    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +2  321
LH        124    FRA  00:00    MUC  00:00 +2  321
Anyone?

KVS Jan 15, 2012 12:40 pm
Originally Posted by SlRlUS (Post 17817038)
Is it just me? Since the recent Amadeus blackout, i can't manage to find any realistic award flights result:
Welcome to [posting on] FT!

The [Awards/M&M] Method issue has now been resolved -- please download KVS Tool Version 6.9.1

SlRlUS Jan 16, 2012 1:29 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 17818719)
Welcome to [posting on] FT!

The [Awards/M&M] Method issue has now been resolved -- please download KVS Tool Version 6.9.1
Thanks a lot! Downloaded the recent version - now it works! ^
BTW: The Version number in the title bar remains 6.9.0.

TheCount2 Jan 17, 2012 8:11 pm
How Long Does it take to Get a Registration Code?
 
Downloaded the KVS Tool last night, and made my contribution. Never received my temporary nor permanent registration code. Still waiting more than 24 hours later.:(

KVS Jan 17, 2012 11:25 pm
Originally Posted by TheCount2 (Post 17834064)
Downloaded the KVS Tool last night, and made my contribution.
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by TheCount2 (Post 17834064)
Never received my temporary nor permanent registration code. Still waiting more than 24 hours later.:(
Temporary Registration Codes are issued instantly, but, as per your follow-up e-mail, you have originally entered an incorrect e-mail address, which prevented its delivery.

Please check your e-mail inbox for your Permanent Registration Credentials, which have now been issued as well.

golfmad Jan 18, 2012 9:26 am
Looking for AA p-class fares
 
Hi, I'm looking for P class (instant upgrade) fares using the Fares tab in 6.9.1. I can't seem to find any P class fares at all? Currently searching for TPA->IAH 30th April to 2nd May. They are on the AA site and they show up on KVS in availability but not in the fares section.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

KVS Jan 18, 2012 10:57 am
Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 17837025)
Hi, I'm looking for P class (instant upgrade) fares using the Fares tab in 6.9.1. I can't seem to find any P class fares at all? Currently searching for TPA->IAH 30th April to 2nd May. They are on the AA site and they show up on KVS in availability but not in the fares section.
Here they are:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.1/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
TPA  Tampa Intl FL US [KTPA]
HOU  Houston Metro / Hobby TX US = IAH HOU EFD [KHOU]
R/T  30 Apr 2012 | 02 May 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AA        TPA    HOU      178  USD                      OA10SQD1
AA        TPA    HOU      344  USD                      NA14ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      416  USD                      SA14ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      418  USD                      QA10SQD1
AA        TPA    HOU      496  USD                      GA14ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      518  USD                      QA10XQD1
AA        TPA    HOU      558  USD                      VA07ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      652  USD                      WA07ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      706  USD                      LA00ERD1
AA        TPA    HOU      1074  USD                      MA00ERD5
AA        TPA    HOU      1154  USD                      HA00ERDR
AA        TPA    HOU      1234  USD                      KA0UPPMR
AA        TPA    HOU      1678  USD                      YA2AAD
AA        TPA    HOU      1830  USD                      YA0UPAMR
AA        TPA    HOU      2440  USD                      Y


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