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ual744777sta Mar 3, 2012 5:52 pm
The CO code no longer exists. As of today (March 3, 2012) all CO flights are now coded as UA flights.

onlysuites Mar 3, 2012 5:53 pm
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128148)
The CO code no longer exists. As of today (March 3, 2012) all CO flights are now coded as UA flights.
But even UA flights don't show up. See EWR-IAH or EWR-MCO as an example.

ual744777sta Mar 3, 2012 5:57 pm
You're right. They're not showing up on the KVS tool using the ANA search function. However they are showing up using the AC function.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
SUN  04 Mar 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
UA        1127    EWR  05:30    IAH  08:23    73G  0  CS+
UA        1241    EWR  07:45    IAH  10:47    764  0  YS+
UA        1665    EWR  09:45    IAH  12:48    735  0  YS+
UA        1116    EWR  10:50    IAH  13:47    73G  0  CS+  YS+
UA        88      EWR  19:40    IAH  22:43    738  0  YS+
UA        1519    EWR  20:25    IAH  23:23    738  0  CS+  YS+
UA        1611    EWR  21:22    IAH  00:21 +1  735  0  YS+
UA        111    EWR  17:55    CLE  19:38    73G  0  YS+
 -> UA    1469    CLE  20:55    IAH  22:56    738  0  YS+
UA/XE      4335    EWR  12:15    IND  14:28    ERJ  0  YS+
 -> UA/XE  4336    IND  17:41    IAH  19:18    ERJ  0  YS+
UA/XE      4557    EWR  13:00    MEM  14:54    ERJ  0  YS+
 -> UA/XE  4610    MEM  18:24    IAH  20:10    ERJ  0  YS+
UA/S5      5154    EWR  13:45    MSP  15:54    E70  0  YS+
 -> UA/XE  4703    MSP  16:34    IAH  19:31    ERJ  0  YS+
UA/XE      4581    EWR  07:54    OMA  10:15    ERJ  0  YS+
 -> UA/XE  4670    OMA  10:40    IAH  13:17    ERJ  0  YS+

onlysuites Mar 3, 2012 6:00 pm
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128177)
You're right. They're not showing up on the KVS tool using the ANA search function. However they are showing up using the AC function.
Not showing up for me.

ual744777sta Mar 3, 2012 6:01 pm
Did you update to the newest KVS today?

onlysuites Mar 3, 2012 6:06 pm
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128195)
Did you update to the newest KVS today?
Yep running 6.9.6 and working with AC now. Thanks

ual744777sta Mar 3, 2012 6:07 pm
You're welcome. I'm glad it's working.

luv2ctheworld Mar 4, 2012 11:05 pm
Dear KVS,

When will Skyteam partner availability become available again? It's one of main reasons I signed up for a platinum account, and for the past few weeks, I have not been able to search for airlines like CI, MH, CZ, KE etc. This is a critical feature for me and I keep getting an error message.

Thanks.

EDIT:
I think v.6.9.6 works only with CI as any routing other than CI's is not available.

sparkzone Mar 5, 2012 9:39 am
KVS,
KE Biz award (O) still not showing, only F (A). is this a bug or KE is not releasing it?

KVS Mar 5, 2012 11:59 am
Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 18128059)
Any ideas why CO is no longer showing up on *A award searches?
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128148)
The CO code no longer exists. As of today (March 3, 2012) all CO flights are now coded as UA flights.
Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 18128157)
But even UA flights don't show up. See EWR-IAH or EWR-MCO as an example.
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128177)
You're right. They're not showing up on the KVS tool using the ANA search function. However they are showing up using the AC function.
Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 18128189)
Not showing up for me.
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128195)
Did you update to the newest KVS today?
Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 18128217)
Yep running 6.9.6 and working with AC now. Thanks
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 18128225)
You're welcome. I'm glad it's working.
UA-CO was still going through some transitional steps at the time of the OP -- Award Availability for those routes is now accessible via both Methods.

ual744777sta: Thanks for helping lallyr in the meantime.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
SUN  01 Apr 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
US        1171    EWR  05:00    HOU  09:29    733  1+  FS-  CS-  YS-
UA        1408    EWR  05:30    HOU  08:14    738  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1714    LGA  05:45    HOU  08:27    738  0  FS/  CS+  YS-
UA        1651    LGA  06:30    HOU  09:23    735  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
US        1821    LGA  07:30    HOU  12:15    E90  1+  FS-  CS-  YS-
UA        230    LGA  07:35    HOU  10:20    320  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1289    EWR  07:45    HOU  10:48    764  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1691    LGA  10:29    HOU  13:37    73G  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1124    EWR  10:30    HOU  13:14    73G  0  FS/  CS+  YS-
UA        1198    EWR  11:52    HOU  14:36    738  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1092    LGA  13:01    HOU  16:09    735  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1199    EWR  13:52    HOU  16:44    735  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1253    LGA  14:19    HOU  17:27    735  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        107    EWR  15:05    HOU  18:02    762  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        39      EWR  16:38    HOU  19:21    753  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        63      EWR  17:25    HOU  20:16    752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1719    LGA  17:30    HOU  20:29    738  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1277    LGA  18:55    HOU  21:54    738  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        1575    EWR  19:17    HOU  22:00    738  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
UA        372    EWR  21:11    HOU  23:59    320  0  FS/  CS-  YS-

KVS Mar 5, 2012 12:03 pm
Originally Posted by sparkzone (Post 18137989)
KE Biz award (O) still not showing, only F (A). is this a bug or KE is not releasing it?
It appears that KE is currently providing O Award Availability for certain routes only (e.g. ICN-NRT) ...

KVS Mar 5, 2012 12:03 pm
Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld (Post 18135741)
EDIT:
I think v.6.9.6 works only with CI as any routing other than CI's is not available.
What is the route/date in question?

sparkzone Mar 5, 2012 2:08 pm
Thanks for response, any idea what route showing O so far?
ICN-NRT and what else? any flights from usa?

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18139023)
It appears that KE is currently providing O Award Availability for certain routes only (e.g. ICN-NRT) ...

KVS Mar 5, 2012 3:16 pm
Originally Posted by sparkzone (Post 18139948)
Thanks for response, any idea what route showing O so far?
ICN-NRT and what else? any flights from usa?
At the moment, we are seeing that is accessible on routes between ICN/GMP and JP/TW.

luv2ctheworld Mar 5, 2012 3:36 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18139032)
What is the route/date in question?
Just some samples I tried:
Using Amadeus: Awards/Skyteam w/ POS: US-AF or FR-AF -
ICN-LAX 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date out of Range; KE should have some kind of flight listed

LAX-PVG 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - Only CI or AF routing to PVG available. No mention of China Eastern (MU) for their routing.

LAX-CAN 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date out of Range; CZ should have some kind of flight listed. No mention of China Southern (CZ) for their routing.

These are hub flights, so there shouldn't be any reason nothing is available. Other dates also yielded same results.

KVS Mar 5, 2012 3:53 pm
Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld (Post 18140648)
Just some samples I tried:
Using Amadeus: Awards/Skyteam w/ POS: US-AF or FR-AF -
ICN-LAX 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date out of Range; KE should have some kind of flight listed

LAX-PVG 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - Only CI or AF routing to PVG available. No mention of China Eastern (MU) for their routing.

LAX-CAN 22 Mar 2012 (and v.v.) - No Award Availability/Route too complex/Date out of Range; KE should have some kind of flight listed. No mention of China Southern (CZ) for their routing.

These are hub flights, so there shouldn't be any reason nothing is available. Other dates also yielded same results.
KE & MU are not supported by the [Awards/SkyTeam] Engine. For MU, you need to use the [Sabre: FS] Method instead.

Please consult the table at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam for details.

As for LAX-CAN, it appears to be an Engine issue -- please use the [Sabre: FS] Method as an alternative:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
CAN  Guangzhou Baiyun CN [ZGGG]
THU  22 Mar 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------------
CZ        328    LAX  23:30    CAN  06:00    772      C9 D9 I0 J0 W9 Z9 Y9 T9 K9 H9 M9 G9 S9 L9 Q0 U0 E0 V0 B0 X0 N0 R0 O0

GaryD Mar 6, 2012 2:37 pm
I'm considering renewing my KVS subscription, but I can't figure out if it has a benefit over what is available elsewhere.

Mrs. GaryD is JMB Diamond, so seems to be eligible for additional JL award seats. The BA and JL sites provide access to award seat inventory.

Is the BA site data, for using "Avios" on JL flights, the same as JL's data for using JMB miles? In other words, does JL hold back some seats for its own members?

The JL site explicitly says that for Diamond members, more inventory is available, for which a phone call is necessary. Can that inventory be accessed with KVS?

We are looking for an award NRT-JFK-NRT on JL F in June. Which level subscription would suffice for a complete search?

If inventory does open up, what mechanism is there for subscribers to learn of it, other than rechecking regularly?

Thanks.

KVS Mar 6, 2012 3:12 pm
Originally Posted by GaryD (Post 18147626)
Is the BA site data, for using "Avios" on JL flights, the same as JL's data for using JMB miles? In other words, does JL hold back some seats for its own members?
OneWorld rules strongly discourage such practices. Most likely, JL can manually open-up additional award seats for its own Elite members (as you indicated below).

Originally Posted by GaryD (Post 18147626)
The JL site explicitly says that for Diamond members, more inventory is available, for which a phone call is necessary. Can that inventory be accessed with KVS?
If the special Award Inventory needs to be requested manually, then there is no way to avoid the phone call. While the KVS Tool can dial the JL number for you automatically via Skype (when using the main application) or via your Mobile device (when using the KVS Tool Mobile Companion), it is not currently capable of holding actual conversations with human Agents :)

Originally Posted by GaryD (Post 18147626)
We are looking for an award NRT-JFK-NRT on JL F in June. Which level subscription would suffice for a complete search?
For JL Award Availability, you would need the Diamond level -- please see http://Levels.KVSTool.com/ for details.

Originally Posted by GaryD (Post 18147626)
If inventory does open up, what mechanism is there for subscribers to learn of it, other than rechecking regularly?
You would need to re-check periodically, but, once you save your query under [My Trips], it will only take a simple mouse-click.

KVS Mar 6, 2012 5:55 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18124674)
I want to go from YOW to Perth Australia for a vacation in Dec.

1. Using the KVS tool, I can not get fare routing rules on Air New Zealand - I could not get the routing rules for any departure point in Canada to any destination in New Zealand or Australia.
The Routing Rules for NZ Fares on the YOW-PER are shown below:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-PER/NZ/Z3CA/14873 USD]
Code:
YOWPER-NZ 01APR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE 4011
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              ADT  EX  PA
Z3CACH          R  14668.00  14454.64              CNN  EX  PA
Z3CAINF        R  1467.00  1445.66              INF  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              INS  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              UNN  EX  PA
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION             
MPM - PA 13899 VIA PACIFIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

CONSTRUCTED ROUTING - SPECIFIED 229              DEST ADD 15   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/     
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/   
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/       
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18124674)
2. I may want to go on a Star Alliance RTW or Circle Pacific ticket between YOW and Perth Australia. How do I find out the fares, and fare rules and routing rules for both types of tickets?
For RTW and other special Circle Fares, please use the [Sabre: DotRes] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC        YOW    YOW      4289  USD                      YRWSPCL
AC        YOW    YOW      6231  USD                      YRWSTAR1
AC        YOW    YOW      7256  USD                      YRWSTAR2
AC        YOW    YOW      8374  USD                      YRWSTAR3
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        YOW    YOW      3504  USD                      LCIRAT17
BA        YOW    YOW      3703  USD                      LONE3
BA        YOW    YOW      3803  USD                      LGLOB26
BA        YOW    YOW      3804  USD                      LCIR22
BA        YOW    YOW      4004  USD                      LCIRAT21
BA        YOW    YOW      4505  USD                      LCIR26
BA        YOW    YOW      4605  USD                      LCIRAT25
BA        YOW    YOW      5006  USD                      LCIR29SA
BA        YOW    YOW      5305  USD                      LONE4
BA        YOW    YOW      5405  USD                      LGLOB29
BA        YOW    YOW      6106  USD                      LONE5
BA        YOW    YOW      6206  USD                      LGLOB34
BA        YOW    YOW      7107  USD                      LONE6
BA        YOW    YOW      7207  USD                      LGLOB39

KVS Mar 6, 2012 6:31 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18124481)
PS-Is there any way that the KVS tool can be used to look specifically for codeshared fligths - let us say UA on AC - anywhere in the world?
Current Engines can only exclude Codeshare flights -- there is no way to specifically force them.

The YYZ-YOW UA/AC Codeshare currently has a schedule exception for Mon 30 Apr:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
PHX  Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl AZ US [KPHX]
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
MON  30 Apr 2012 - 07 May 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
UA/AC      8474    PHX  10:40    YYZ  17:42    321  0  12345-7    08:30      4      1  01 May  31 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/AC  8290    YYZ  21:10    YOW  22:10    E90  0                          1      -

UA        682    PHX  07:00    ORD  12:12    752  0  1------    06:13      2      1  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  5829    ORD  13:22    YOW  16:13    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      2885    PHX  12:20    ORD  17:38    320  0  ------7    06:20      4      2  06 May  20 May
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  18:48    YOW  21:40    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      2885    PHX  12:20    ORD  17:38    320  0  12345--    06:25      4      2  01 May  18 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  18:53    YOW  21:45    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        656    PHX  06:39    ORD  12:00    319  0  12345--    06:30      2      1  01 May  16 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:19    YOW  16:09    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      2885    PHX  12:20    ORD  17:38    320  0  1------    06:31      4      2  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  5824    ORD  18:59    YOW  21:51    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        656    PHX  06:30    ORD  11:56    320  0  ------7    06:41      2      1  06 May  13 May
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:21    YOW  16:11    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        656    PHX  06:35    ORD  11:55    319  0  -----6-    06:45      2      1  05 May  12 May
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:30    YOW  16:20    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        398    PHX  12:00    ORD  17:12    752  0  12345--    06:45      2      1  01 May  07 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  18:53    YOW  21:45    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        624    PHX  11:51    ORD  17:11    320  0  ------7    06:49      2      1  06 May  20 May
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  18:48    YOW  21:40    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        468    PHX  09:00    IAD  16:10    320  0  1------    06:53      2      -  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  6040    IAD  17:20    YOW  18:53    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA        403    PHX  11:57    ORD  17:12    752  0  1------    06:54      2      1  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  5824    ORD  18:59    YOW  21:51    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        124    PHX  09:00    IAD  16:11    738  0  ------7    06:57      2      -  06 May  20 May
 -> UA/##  6119    IAD  17:24    YOW  18:57    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA        124    PHX  08:59    IAD  16:10    738  0  12345--    06:58      2      -  01 May  25 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  6119    IAD  17:24    YOW  18:57    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA        124    PHX  08:55    IAD  16:06    738  0  -----6-    07:06      2      -  05 May  26 May
 -> UA/##  6119    IAD  17:28    YOW  19:01    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA/US      2621    PHX  08:55    ORD  14:21    321  0  -----6-    07:16      4      2  05 May  19 May
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  16:23    YOW  19:11    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      2621    PHX  09:10    ORD  14:36    321  0  1------    07:54      4      2  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  5826    ORD  17:15    YOW  20:04    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        1635    PHX  23:21    EWR  06:50 +1  739  0  12345-7    08:00      2      C  01 May  25 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  4516    EWR  08:50 +1  YOW  10:21 +1  ERJ  0                          A      -
UA        1237    PHX  05:00    IAH  09:34    738  0  1--45--    08:09      2      C  03 May  14 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA    1646    IAH  10:04    ORD  12:39    738  0                          C      1
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:19    YOW  16:09    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        1491    PHX  05:00    IAH  09:34    738  0  -23----    08:09      2      C  01 May  16 May
 -> UA    1646    IAH  10:04    ORD  12:39    738  0                          C      1
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:19    YOW  16:09    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      2621    PHX  09:10    ORD  14:36    321  0  -23----    08:09      4      2  01 May  02 May
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        495    PHX  05:00    IAH  09:33    320  0  ------7    08:11      2      C  06 May  13 May
 -> UA    1646    IAH  10:03    ORD  12:38    738  0                          C      1
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:21    YOW  16:11    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        1062    PHX  07:44    DEN  10:26    738  0  -23----    08:13      2      -  01 May  16 May
 -> UA    936    DEN  11:15    IAD  16:38    752  0                          -      -
 -> UA/##  6119    IAD  17:24    YOW  18:57    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA        1062    PHX  07:43    DEN  10:25    738  0  1--45--    08:14      2      -  03 May  18 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA    936    DEN  11:15    IAD  16:38    752  0                          -      -
 -> UA/##  6119    IAD  17:24    YOW  18:57    ERJ  0                          -      -
UA/US      3054    PHX  08:45    DEN  11:31    320  0  1------    08:19      4      -  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA    908    DEN  12:40    ORD  16:00    752  0                          -      1
 -> UA/##  5826    ORD  17:15    YOW  20:04    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3085    PHX  08:45    MSP  13:46    320  0  1------    08:19      4      1  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA    622    MSP  14:40    ORD  16:04    320  0                          1      1
 -> UA/##  5826    ORD  17:15    YOW  20:04    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        1237    PHX  05:00    IAH  09:34    738  0  -----6-    08:20      2      C  05 May  12 May
 -> UA    1646    IAH  10:09    ORD  12:44    738  0                          C      1
 -> UA/##  6041    ORD  13:30    YOW  16:20    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA        1078    PHX  23:01    EWR  06:30 +1  73G  0  1------    08:20      2      C  30 Apr  30 Apr  Mon 07 May
 -> UA/##  4516    EWR  08:50 +1  YOW  10:21 +1  ERJ  0                          A      -
UA/US      2621    PHX  08:55    ORD  14:21    321  0  1--45-7    08:24      4      2  03 May  21 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3088    PHX  07:45    ORD  13:03    320  0  -----6-    08:26      4      2  05 May  19 May
 -> UA/##  6040    ORD  16:23    YOW  19:11    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3085    PHX  08:45    MSP  13:46    320  0  ---4---    08:34      4      1  03 May  03 May
 -> UA    622    MSP  14:46    ORD  16:10    320  0                          1      1
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3085    PHX  08:45    MSP  13:46    320  0  1---5--    08:34      4      1  04 May  11 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA    375    MSP  14:46    ORD  16:10    320  0                          1      1
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3085    PHX  08:45    MSP  13:46    320  0  ------7    08:34      4      1  06 May  06 May
 -> UA    622    MSP  14:47    ORD  16:10    319  0                          1      1
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3120    PHX  08:45    STL  13:38    319  0  1--45--    08:34      4      1  03 May  21 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA/##  5956    STL  14:18    ORD  15:29    ERJ  0                          1      2
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -
UA/US      3054    PHX  08:45    DEN  11:31    320  0  12345--    08:34      4      -  01 May  07 May  Mon 30 Apr
 -> UA    908    DEN  12:36    ORD  15:56    752  0                          -      1
 -> UA/##  5970    ORD  17:27    YOW  20:19    ERJ  0                          2      -

GaryD Mar 6, 2012 8:03 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18147846)
OneWorld rules strongly discourage such practices. Most likely, JL can manually open-up additional award seats for its own Elite members (as you indicated below).

...

If the special Award Inventory needs to be requested manually, then there is no way to avoid the phone call. While the KVS Tool can dial the JL number for you automatically via Skype (when using the main application) or via your Mobile device (when using the KVS Tool Mobile Companion), it is not currently capable of holding actual conversations with human Agents :) ...
On conferring with the Diamond member, I gather the message on the JL web site was referring to the Diamond benefit, of the option of using 2x the miles when ordinary seats are not available. Not, explicitly, a reference to additional award seats, at the regular redemption level.

If they do that (or just upgrade without deducting points or miles), apparently they don't admit it publicly. :(

Sorry for the confusion, thanks for the quick and detailed response.

FlyerGoldII Mar 8, 2012 8:40 pm
Q/B UP fares - and Aeroplan COS Bonus?
 
Thanks, for the above response.


As per my thread, the question is whether these ...UP fares will give the 50% COS bonus with Aeroplan.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ue-ticket.html




Do the fares rules (in the KVS tool) state anywhere that the fares will book into an "A" booking class, thereby eligible for 50% COS bonus?


[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: YOW-HNL/UA/QHT50UPN/3062 CAD]
Code:
[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NORMAL FARES
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH CARRIER SHALL MAKE
  AVAILABLE AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE ON
  ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY CARRIERS
  BEST JUDGEMENT AS TO THE ANTICIPATED TOTAL
  PASSENGER LOAD FACTOR ON EACH FLIGHT AND FARES
  WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE MADE AVAILABLE ON ALL
  FLIGHTS.
 RULES NOT APPLICABLE
  6030/ 6040 - TOUR CONDUCTORS
  6055/ 6065/ 6070 - PASSENGER SALES AGENTS.

[Day/Time]
PERMITTED FRI/SAT/SUN.

[Seasonality]
TO HAWAII -
  PERMITTED 26OCT11 THROUGH 09DEC11 OR 02JAN12 THROUGH
  10FEB12 OR 19MAR12 THROUGH 04APR12 OR 10APR12
  THROUGH 22JUN12 OR 09JUL12 THROUGH 12DEC12 FOR EACH
  TRIP. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.
FROM HAWAII -
  PERMITTED 26OCT11 THROUGH 27DEC11 OR 16JAN12 THROUGH
  17FEB12 OR 26MAR12 THROUGH 05APR12 OR 10APR12
  THROUGH 29JUN12 OR 16JUL12 THROUGH 27DEC12 FOR EACH
  TRIP. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        UA FLIGHT 205
        UA FLIGHT 208
        UA FLIGHT 211
        UA FLIGHT 226
        UA FLIGHT 228
        UA FLIGHT 233
        UA FLIGHT 239
        UA FLIGHT 249
        UA FLIGHT 255
        UA FLIGHT 257
        UA FLIGHT 262
        UA FLIGHT 285
        UA FLIGHT 286
        UA FLIGHTS 302 THROUGH 304
        UA FLIGHT 314
        UA FLIGHTS 320 THROUGH 322
        UA FLIGHT 326
        UA FLIGHT 334
        UA FLIGHTS 337 THROUGH 338
        UA FLIGHT 353
        UA FLIGHT 362
        UA FLIGHT 364
        UA FLIGHTS 367 THROUGH 368
        UA FLIGHT 371
        UA FLIGHT 379
        UA FLIGHTS 388 THROUGH 389
        UA FLIGHTS 397 THROUGH 398
        UA FLIGHTS 416 THROUGH 417
        UA FLIGHT 436
        UA FLIGHT 443
        UA FLIGHTS 448 THROUGH 450
        UA FLIGHT 456
        UA FLIGHT 460
        UA FLIGHTS 465 THROUGH 466
        UA FLIGHT 469
        UA FLIGHT 472
        UA FLIGHT 482
        UA FLIGHT 485
        UA FLIGHT 522
        UA FLIGHT 531.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        UA FLIGHTS 534 THROUGH 535
        UA FLIGHT 557
        UA FLIGHT 559
        UA FLIGHT 578
        UA FLIGHTS 590 THROUGH 592
        UA FLIGHT 595
        UA FLIGHTS 597 THROUGH 598
        UA FLIGHT 602
        UA FLIGHT 619
        UA FLIGHT 621
        UA FLIGHT 642
        UA FLIGHT 669
        UA FLIGHT 670
        UA FLIGHT 674
        UA FLIGHT 679
        UA FLIGHTS 701 THROUGH 703
        UA FLIGHT 722
        UA FLIGHT 725
        UA FLIGHT 728
        UA FLIGHT 731
        UA FLIGHT 739
        UA FLIGHTS 747 THROUGH 748
        UA FLIGHT 754
        UA FLIGHT 757
        UA FLIGHT 758
        UA FLIGHT 760
        UA FLIGHT 763.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        UA FLIGHTS 771 THROUGH 772
        UA FLIGHT 778
        UA FLIGHT 794
        UA FLIGHT 797
        UA FLIGHT 808
        UA FLIGHT 815
        UA FLIGHT 824
        UA FLIGHT 841
        UA FLIGHT 863
        UA FLIGHT 867
        UA FLIGHT 870
        UA FLIGHTS 890 THROUGH 891
        UA FLIGHTS 905 THROUGH 906
        UA FLIGHT 907
        UA FLIGHT 910
        UA FLIGHT 912
        UA FLIGHT 920
        UA FLIGHT 927
        UA FLIGHT 949.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        UA FLIGHT 950
        UA FLIGHTS 964 THROUGH 965
        UA FLIGHT 967
        UA FLIGHT 972
        UA FLIGHT 994
        UA FLIGHT 996.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 50 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 50 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE TKTG AFTER RES REQ WILL NOT APPL WHEN FARES
      ARE COMB W/OTHER FARES TO CONST THRU INTL TRANS
      T/F PTS OUTSIDE THE US/CA/MX/BM/BS/WEST INDIES
      PROVIDED AT LEAST ONE INTERNATIONAL SEGMENT
      OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA IS VIA UA.
      THE FLIGHT NUMBER AND DATE MUST BE INDICATED ON
      THE TICKET.

[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT USD 55.81 EACH IN CHI/DEN/LAX/SFO/HOU/EWR/
CLE
PER PASSENGER. INFANT IS FREE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      STOPOVER POINT/S/ MUST BE ON THE PERMITTED
      ROUTING.
AND - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
      EACH DIRECTION AT USD 74.42 EACH IN HNL/OGG/KOA/
      LIH/ITO
      PER PASSENGER. INFANT IS FREE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      STOPOVER POINT/S/ MUST BE ON THE PERMITTED
      ROUTING.

[Transfers]
4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED.

[Surcharges]
RULE DATA INCOMPLETE

[Travel Restrictions]
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER
24OCT11.

[Sales Restrictions]
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY MAIL/PTA. TICKETS MAY NOT BE
ISSUED BY SELF TICKETS/WRITE-YOUR-OWN TICKETS. PTA
CONSTITUTES TICKETING.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

  TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      ---
      A.  UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT -
      CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL ON
      UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR
      RESERVATION/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY
      WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE.
      ---
      B.  WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET -
      A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD THE
      PURCHASE OF A DOMESTIC OR INTERNATIONAL FARE/
      TICKET PRICED AT -CURRENT- FARE LEVELS FOLLOWING
      ALL FARE RULE PROVISIONS.
      --
      ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS OF WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MUST
      BE CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
      OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
      --
      WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MUST EXCHANGED NO LATER THAN
      ONE YEAR /365 DAYS/ OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
      DATE OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
      --
      THE NON REFUNDABLE VALUE OF THE UNUSED TICKET
      MUST BE CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF
      THE NEW TICKET AND DESIGNATED AS NON REFUNDABLE.
      --
      A USD 150.00 / CAD 150.00  SERVICE FEE WILL
      BE ASSESSED FOR TRANSACTION.  ANY RESIDUAL VALUE
      WILL BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A UA NON
      REFUNDABLE VOUCHER / TRAVEL AGENCY MAY ISSUE A
      NON REFUNDABLE MCO VALID ON UA.
      --
      PASSENGERS TRAVELING ON COMPANION FARES MUST
      PRESENT ALL TICKETS AT THE SAME TIME.
      ---
      C.  WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE
          IN THE MARKET -
      WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET OR
      A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED OR BECOMES AVAILABLE /
      THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE.
      ALL PROVISIONS OF THE LOWER FARE MUST BE MET
      BEFORE DEPARTURE.
      NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS.
      ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED.
      --
      A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE WILL
      BE ASSESSED.  RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY/ WILL BE
      RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE VOUCHER
      VALID ON UNITED AIRLINES.  AGENCY MAY ISSUE NON
      REFUNDABLE MCO VALID ON UA.
      ---
      D.  EMERGENCY PROVISION -
      TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER
      TICKET IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OF PASSENGER/
      IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
      DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED CHECK WITH CARRIER.
      ---
      E.  TICKET VALIDITY AND CANCELLATION -
      TICKET EXPIRES 366 DAYS FROM TICKET ISSUANCE
      DATE.  AN EXPIRED TICKET HAS NO VALUE AND MAY NOT
      BE USED OR EXCHANGED.
      THE NON REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION PENALTY IS EQUAL
      TO 100 PCT FARE/TAXES/FEES.
      ---


      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      ---
      A. IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          ONLY ONE SERVICE CHARGE WILL APPLY PER TICKET.
          IF FARES WITH DIFFERENT SERVICE CHARGES ARE
          COMBINED ON THE SAME TICKET THE HIGHEST FEE
          OF ALL THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL
          APPLY TO THE JOURNEY.
          IF CHANGED FARE COMPONENT HAS NO SERVICE
          CHARGE AND THAT IS THE ONLY FARE COMPONENT
          CHANGED THERE WOULD BE NO SERVICE CHARGE.
      ---
      B. FARES COMBINED END-ON-END ON THE SAME TICKET
          // FARES THAT COULD STAND ALONE IF ISSUED ON
          A SEPARATE TICKET//  MAY BE CHANGED SEPARATELY
          ACCORDING TO ASSOCIATED FARE RULE.
          IF CHANGED FARE COMPONENT HAS NO SERVICE
          CHARGE AND THAT IS THE ONLY FARE COMPONENT
          CHANGED THERE WOULD BE NO SERVICE CHARGE.
      ---

CHANGES

  BEFORE DEPARTURE
    CHARGE USD 150.00/CAD 150.00 FOR REISSUE/UNTICKTED
PTA.
    WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      --
      BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGE OPTIONS -
      --
      BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET
        VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVOSIONS
        MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL
        FARES.  CHARGE USD 150.00/CAD 150.00 OR HIGHEST
        FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY
        .
      --
      TAG 7 - LOWER AIR FARE-WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET
      --
          WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE
          MARKET / OR TICKETED FARE IS REDUCED
          REPRICE USING --CURRENT FARES--
          ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGES PERMITTED.
      --
        PROVIDED ALL THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND
        FARE RULES ARE MET.
      1.  NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAK POINTS
      2.  CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
      3.  SAME TRAVEL DATES / FLIGHTS
      4.  UA FARES ARE USED
      5.  VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS REQUIREMENTS
      6.  ADVANCE RESERVATION IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE
          DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --
        WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE --REFUND-
        RESIDUAL THEN ADD COLLECT -
        REFUND VIA VOUCHER.
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS
      --
      TAG 5 - QUALIFYING CURRENT DAY FARE
                  WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET
      --
        REPRICE USING --CURRENT FARES-- IN EFFECT TODAY
      --
        PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
      --
        1.  UA / CO FARES ARE USED
        2.  FARE BREAK POINT CHANGES ARE PERMITTED
        3.  VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATION REQUIREMENTS
        4.  ADVANCE RESERVATION/TKG IS MEASURED FROM
            REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT.
      --
        WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE -REFUND-
        RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT
        REFUND VIA VOUCHER.
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
      --
      TAG 1 - DOWNLINE DATE / FLIGHT CHANGE
                SAME BOOKING CODE /  KEEP THE FARE
      --
        REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TICKETED/HISTORICAL FARE
      --
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -
      --
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        3.  SAME UA / CO FARE USED
        4.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        5.  VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKETING FROM ORIGINAL
            TICKET DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE
      RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
      --
      TAG 2 - DOWNLINE CHANGES WHEN ORIGINAL
        BOOKING CODE NOT AVAILABLE
      --
        REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET
        WAS ORIGINALY ISSUED
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
        3.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        4.  UA/CO FARES GOVERNED BY SAME RULE ARE USED
        5.  NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
            FARE
        6.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        7.  VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKETING FROM ORIGINAL
            TICKET DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --
      OR -
      --
        REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS
        ORIGINALLY ISSUED
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET -
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        3.  UA / CO  FARES ARE USED
        4.  NEW TICKET HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN
            PREVIOUS TICKET
        5.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        6.  VALIDATE ADVANCE RES/TICKET DATE TO
            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE
      RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS
      --
      TAG 10 - FARE BREAKS PERMITTED
      --
        A.  CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARE IN
            EFFECT TODAY - CURRENT-DAY TARIFF
        B.  ALL OTHER FARE COMPONENTS USE TICKETED
            FARE.
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
      --
        1.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        2.  UA / CO FARES ARE USED
        3.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        4.  ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKETING IS MEASURED
            FROM NEW TICKET ISSUE DATE FOR CURRENT-DAY
            TARIFF
        5.  FOR TICKETED FARE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
            DATE APPLIES
      --
        WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE --REFUND--
        RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT
        REFUND VIA VOUCHER.
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS

AFTER DEPARTURE
    CHARGE USD 150.00/CAD 150.00 FOR REISSUE.
    WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      --
        AFTER DEPARTURE CHANGE OPTIONS -
      --
        AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET
        VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS
        MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL
        FARES.  CHARGE USD 150.00/CAD 150.00 OR HIGHEST
        FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY
      REPRICE USING CURRENLTY TICKETED / HISTORICAL
        FARES.
      --
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
      --
      -TAG 1 - DOWNLINE DATE / FLIGHT CHANGE
                  SAME BOOKING CODE / KEEP THE FARE
      --
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS/1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        3.  SAME UA / CO FARES ARE USED
        4.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE
            MET EXCEPT ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKETING
      --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE
      RESIDUAL THEN ADD COLLECT.
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
      -TAG 2 - DOWNLINE CHANGES WHEN ORIGINAL
                  BOOKING CODE IS NOT AVAILABLE
      --
        REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET
        WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED.
      --
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
      --
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS / 1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
        3.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        4.  UA / CO FARES GOVERNED BY SAME RULE ARE USED
        5.  NEW FARE IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
            FARE
        6.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        7.  ADVANCE RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TICKET
            DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --
      OR -
      --
        REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET
        WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED.
      --
      PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET
      --
        1.  NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS / 1ST FLIGHT COUPON /
            FARE BREAKS
        2.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        3.  UA / CO FARES ARE USED
        4.  NEW TICKET HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE
            THAN PREVIOUS TICKET
        5.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        6.  ADVANCE RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TICKET
            DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE
      RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND
      NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
      -TAG 9/10 -WHEN FARE BREAK POINTS CHANGE
      --
        REPRICE AS FOLLOWS -
      --
        A.  FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN
            EFFECT WHEN TICKET WAS ISSUED
        B.  CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE CURRENT
            FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
        C.  UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE CURRENTLY
            TICKETED FARES
      --
        1.  ALL TRAVEL REMAINS DOMESTIC
        2.  UA / CO FARES ARE USED
        3.  ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
        4.  ADVANCE RESERVATIONS IS MEASURED FROM NEW
            TICKET ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES
        5.  FROM PREVIOUS TICKET ISSUE DATE IF
            HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING
            UNIT
      --
        WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE - REFUND -
        RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT /
        REFUND VIA VOUCHER.
      ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW HIGHER NON-REF AMT
      AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS

[Combinations]
 
 END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
 SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
 MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT
CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND
  TARIFF.
  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT
  CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS.
  OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT
  CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
    WHEN COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
    A ROUND TRIP FARE TO FORM ROUND/CIRCLE/OPEN
    JAW TRIPS--THE MOST RESTRICTIVE PROVISIONS
    APPLY. THESE INCLUDE MIN/MAX STAY-
    RESERVATIONS/TICKET REQUIREMENTS -STOPOVER
    PROVISIONS-CANCEL/CHANGE PENALTIES/SERVICE
    CHARGES OR COMBINATION PROVISIONS.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
      POINT -
      BUR-LAX  BUR-ONT  BUR-SNA  BWI-WAS  EWR-HPN
      EWR-HVN  EWR-ISP  EWR-NYC  FLL-MIA  FLL-PBI
      HVN-HPN  HVN-ISP  HVN-NYC  ISP-HPN  ISP-NYC
      LAX-ONT  LAX-SNA  MIA-PBI  NYC-HPN  OAK-SFO
      OAK-SJC  ONT-SNA  SFO-SJC

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/0VALUAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
  OF THE FARE.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
      CHARGE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
      PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - JNN/CONTRACT BULK CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100
      PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 12 OR
        OLDER.
OR - 1ST JNF/CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
      CHARGE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 18 OR
        OLDER.
OR - JNS/CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2
      - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY CONTRACT BULK ADULT PSGR 18 OR
        OLDER.

[Voluntary Refunds]
CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Minimum Stay]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Maximum Stay]
NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Changes]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD�LINE NUM�*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

KVS Mar 9, 2012 9:46 am
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18164239)
Thanks, for the above response.

As per my thread, the question is whether these ...UP fares will give the 50% COS bonus with Aeroplan.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ue-ticket.html

Do the fares rules (in the KVS tool) state anywhere that the fares will book into an "A" booking class, thereby eligible for 50% COS bonus?
Yes, they will -- this can be verified by retrieving the Routing Rules for that Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-HNL/UA/QHT50UPN/3054 USD]
Code:
YOWHNL-UA 01APR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0013 RULE 2015
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
QHT50UPN            1514.00      0.00    1514.00  ADT  EX   
QHT50UPN            1514.00      0.00    1514.00  CNN  EX   
QHT50UPN              0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  EX   
QHT50UPN            1514.00      0.00    1514.00  INS  EX   
QHT50UPN            1514.00      0.00    1514.00  JNN  EX   
QHT50UPN              0.00      0.00        0.00  JNF  EX   
QHT50UPN            1514.00      0.00    1514.00  JNS  EX   

BOOKING CODES        A                                         

PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  308 FROM-TO  YOW-DEN/YTO/EWR/WAS/CLE/CHI-LAX/SFO     
                      -HNL*

GJS - yow Mar 9, 2012 11:33 am
Update reminder not working
 
Since the UA/CO merger, the ITA: Upgrades-Awards/UA method was not working. When used with the old 11 digit MileagePlus Number, the error message indicates "the Method/Function is currently unavailable or may require a newer version of the KVS Tool."

However, UA has issued new MileagePlus Numbers, which are 8 characters long. When the new number is entered, the error message indicates an 11 digit number should be entered.

Either way, this method was not working.
OK, so I checked the KVS site and found there is an update to V6.9.6.R1 which resolves the problem above. However, I was not alerted that an update was available. This is the first time that has ever happened.

KVS Mar 9, 2012 12:48 pm
Originally Posted by GJS - yow (Post 18167888)
Since the UA/CO merger, the ITA: Upgrades-Awards/UA method was not working. When used with the old 11 digit MileagePlus Number, the error message indicates "the Method/Function is currently unavailable or may require a newer version of the KVS Tool."

However, UA has issued new MileagePlus Numbers, which are 8 characters long. When the new number is entered, the error message indicates an 11 digit number should be entered.

Either way, this method was not working.
OK, so I checked the KVS site and found there is an update to V6.9.6.R1 which resolves the problem above. However, I was not alerted that an update was available. This is the first time that has ever happened.
We have not activated the global update alert (until today) as we wanted to make sure that the UA Engine is fully stable, following the migration.

However, as the "Method/Function is currently unavailable or may require a newer version of the KVS Tool" error message indicates, visiting the KVSTool.com Homepage will provide additional information about the Method's status, or the existence of an updated version (as was the case here).

FlyerGoldII Mar 10, 2012 6:13 pm
The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.

The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"

The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".



Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18148849)
The Routing Rules for NZ Fares on the YOW-PER are shown below:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-PER/NZ/Z3CA/14873 USD]
Code:
YOWPER-NZ 01APR12      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE 4011
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              ADT  EX  PA
Z3CACH          R  14668.00  14454.64              CNN  EX  PA
Z3CAINF        R  1467.00  1445.66              INF  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              INS  EX  PA
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64              UNN  EX  PA
BOOKING CODES        Z                                         
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION             
MPM - PA 13899 VIA PACIFIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

CONSTRUCTED ROUTING - SPECIFIED 229              DEST ADD 15   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA     
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/   
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/     
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL     
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/   
                      HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/     
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA     
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/   
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*         
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX       
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL     
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL     
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*             
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/     
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/   
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR     
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX       
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG     
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/     
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG       
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*   
            FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/     
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                       
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -PER*                                   
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL       
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/   
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                     
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC     
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA     
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-PER*               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/       
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG     
                      -AKL-PER*                               
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                           
            FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA       
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN     
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*           


For RTW and other special Circle Fares, please use the [Sabre: DotRes] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC        YOW    YOW      4289  USD                      YRWSPCL
AC        YOW    YOW      6231  USD                      YRWSTAR1
AC        YOW    YOW      7256  USD                      YRWSTAR2
AC        YOW    YOW      8374  USD                      YRWSTAR3
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        YOW    YOW      3504  USD                      LCIRAT17
BA        YOW    YOW      3703  USD                      LONE3
BA        YOW    YOW      3803  USD                      LGLOB26
BA        YOW    YOW      3804  USD                      LCIR22
BA        YOW    YOW      4004  USD                      LCIRAT21
BA        YOW    YOW      4505  USD                      LCIR26
BA        YOW    YOW      4605  USD                      LCIRAT25
BA        YOW    YOW      5006  USD                      LCIR29SA
BA        YOW    YOW      5305  USD                      LONE4
BA        YOW    YOW      5405  USD                      LGLOB29
BA        YOW    YOW      6106  USD                      LONE5
BA        YOW    YOW      6206  USD                      LGLOB34
BA        YOW    YOW      7107  USD                      LONE6
BA        YOW    YOW      7207  USD                      LGLOB39

cbourl Mar 11, 2012 6:48 pm
Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error

KVS Mar 11, 2012 7:27 pm
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.
Which Route(s)/Cabin Class(es) are you searching for?

Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"
The [Fares/FC] Engine appears to be experiencing issues with NZ Fares on that route (Fares on other carriers are accessible). Please use the [Fares/PSH] Method instead:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
R/T  01 Apr 2012 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
NZ        YOW    AKL      7730  USD    50 Days    5  90  JN1C
NZ        YOW    AKL      8240  USD    21 Days      360  JN2C
NZ        YOW    AKL      8750  USD    21 Days      360  ZN1C
NZ        YOW    AKL      9056  USD        ***      360  J3C
NZ        YOW    AKL      9566  USD        ***      360  Z3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    10586  USD        ***      360  D3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    11773  USD        ***      360  J3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    12436  USD        ***      360  Z3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    12830  USD        ***      360  C3C
NZ        YOW    AKL    13762  USD        ***      360  D3COW
NZ        YOW    AKL    16679  USD        ***      360  C3COW
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 18175777)
The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".
What is City Pair/Fare Basis in question?

KVS Mar 11, 2012 7:28 pm
Originally Posted by cbourl (Post 18180977)
Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error
The [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method continues to function normally -- are you running the latest KVS Tool Version?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
SUN  01 Apr 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        18      EWR  09:00    LHR  21:20    752      J6 JN6 C5 D4 Z4 ZN4 P4 PN4 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN9 X9
UA        110    EWR  18:25    LHR  06:45 +1  752      J9 JN9 C8 D6 Z6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        28      EWR  19:35    LHR  07:40 +1  772      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        8      EWR  21:10    LHR  09:25 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        114    EWR  22:05    LHR  10:15 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA        36      EWR  20:05    EDI  07:55 +1  752      J3 JN3 C3 D0 Z0 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA/BD  7702    EDI  09:05 +1  LHR  10:35 +1  320      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E0 U7 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
UA/XE      5716    JFK  06:00    IAD  07:22    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
UA/XE      5719    LGA  06:00    IAD  07:24    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4640    EWR  06:15    IAD  07:36    EM4      Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    922    IAD  09:29    LHR  21:55    763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      4678    EWR  15:43    IAD  17:05    EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    918    IAD  17:59    LHR  06:20 +1  772      F5 FN5 A3 ON1 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R4 RN4 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      5714    JFK  18:59    IAD  20:22    CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      3517    LGA  19:30    IAD  20:56    E70      F4 A4 JN4 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F4 FN5 A4 ON1 O1 J9 JN4 C9 D9 Z9 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4672    EWR  19:48    IAD  21:10    EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    924    IAD  21:52    LHR  10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      5133    EWR  17:05    YUL  18:43    E70      F6 A6 JN6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R6 RN6 IN6 I6 Y7 YN7 B3 M3 E2 U1 H1 HN1 Q1 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G1 N1 XN2 X2
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL  19:50    LHR  07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0
UA/QK      8187    LGA  17:30    YUL  18:56    CRA      F4 A7 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL  19:50    LHR  07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0

poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 4:08 pm
Why can't I find my UA fare?
 
I'm new to KVS.
I searched for Fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check Availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)
(update: I just ran it again now and got same results)


[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
R/T  12 Sep 2012 | 01 Oct 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC        YTO    SHA      652  USD                      E0LXCNT
AC        YTO    SHA      672  USD                      E0LWCNT
UA        YTO    SHA      835  USD                      LLX27DM2
UA        YTO    SHA      875  USD                      LLX47DM2
UA        YTO    SHA      885  USD                      LLE74BM1
UA        YTO    SHA      895  USD                      LLW27DM2
[removed the more expensive ones for brevity]

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
WED  12 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA        547    YYZ  08:00    ORD  08:47    319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G4
 -> UA    835    ORD  10:23    PVG  13:55    777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0
UA        867    YYZ  07:00    SFO  09:41    319      F4 A5 J4 C4 D5 Z5 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA    857    SFO  13:26    PVG  17:25    744      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - DotRes: YTO-SHA/UA/LLX27DM2/835 USD]
Code:
[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PACIFIC ROUND TRIP ECONOMY SAVER FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY/COACH/OFF PEAK COACH
CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.

[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 25DEC THROUGH 06JUN OR 17AUG THROUGH 30NOV
ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED
ON DATE OF ORIGIN.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CO.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
CHINA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AC FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
NONE IN GUAM
IN AREA 3
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

[Transfers]
6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH
DIRECTION
3 PERMITTED IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Blackout Dates]
INBOUND -
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 13JUL12 THROUGH 23AUG12 FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.

[Surcharges]
FARE RULE
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SHA/BJS
AND TYO/OSA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CA FLIGHT
ANY NH FLIGHT.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT,ALLOWING
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2.
OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
COUPON.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 OR CAD 6.00 WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HONG
KONG SAR CHINA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED TO
EACH PASSENGER OF ANY AGE GROUP FOR EACH DEPARTURE
OUT OF HONG KONG INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS WITH
STOPOVERS IN HONG KONG.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO -
1-PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITTING HONG KONG.
2-PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON ID/AD TICKETS.
3-PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
4-INFANTS.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED AT TIME
OF TICKET ISSUANCE AND WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE
FARE CALCULATION AS A -Q- SURCHARGE BY CONVERTING
THE SURCHARGE INTO NUC USING THE APPLICABLE IATA
RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
THE APPLICABLE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE IS SUBJECT
TO REFUND WHEN HONG KONG IS NO LONGER A DEPARTING
AND/OR STOPOVER POINT AS A RESULT OF CANCELLATION
OR REROUTING OF A TICKET.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA TKK.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT TRUK IN
MICRONESIA.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA YAP.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT YAP IN THE
REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 18.00 OR CAD
18.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA ROR.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE FACILITY SURCHARGE APPLIES EACH TIME TRAVEL
INVOLVES ENPLANEMENT AT KOROR-PALAU ON A UA FLIGHT
THIS FACILITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO
PASSENGERS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON ANY UA FREE TICKET
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE.
THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.

[Sales Restrictions]
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY DUE TO MEDICAL
REASONS PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH
BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT
--
CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL
ON UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR
RESERVATIONS/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY
WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE.
--
B.  EXCHANGE - CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT /
WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET
--
FULL VALUE OF A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
AT -CURRENT- EQUAL OR HIGHER FARE LEVELS UPON
PAYMENT OF CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS
RULE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES /
FEES / SURCHARGES WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME
OF EXCHANGE.
--PROVIDED--
--ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELED PRIOR TO
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULE FLIGHT ---  AND ---
RESERVATIONS FOR NEW ITINERARY ARE MADE AND
TICKETS REISSUED NO LATER THAN 1 YEAR FROM
DATE OF ISSUE ON ORIGINAL PURCHASED TICKET.
--
THE NON-REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION AMOUNT OF THE
TICKET BEING EXCHANGED REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE
AND CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF
THE NEW TICKET.
--
C. LOWER FARE INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN MARKET
--
WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET
OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED / OR BECOMES
AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY
QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE.  ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
LOWER AIR FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS.
ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED.
--
A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE
WILL BE ASSESSED.  -- RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY /
WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF
PAYMENT.
--
D.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHARGE CAD 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED
FLIGHT
--
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY
CHANGE IS MADE.  WHEN TICKETED RESERVAIONS
ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO FLIGHT TIME - NEW
FLIGHTS MUST BE CONFIRMED AND TICKET REISSUED.
NO OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
--
IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT
TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY
PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY
TICKETED FARE FAMILY /
IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING
REQUIREMENTS.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A HIGHER FARE /
THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE AND THE CHANGE FEE
CONTAINED IN THIS RULE MUST BE COLLECTED
AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A LOWER FARE /-- NO REFUND WILL BE MADE--.
-------FULL CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY-----
--
IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY
FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / FULL VALUE
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING FARE -
USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL
TICKETING DATE.
--
FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN.
ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAXES/FEES/SURCHARGE
WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--
B.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

[Combinations]
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE
WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO
IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
NYC-EWR

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NOTE -
ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/0VALUEAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 27JAN12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 04MAY12 AND ON/BEFORE 08JUL12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 09JUL12 AND ON/BEFORE 07DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 08DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 23DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 24DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY13
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Refunds]
CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

KVS Mar 12, 2012 4:22 pm
Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187013)
I'm new to KVS.
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187013)
I searched for fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)
You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    772      F6 FN7 A6 ON4 O2 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F6 FN8 A6 ON6 O5 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    526    SFO  13:04    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    972    SFO  10:06    ORD  16:20    763      F6 FN6 A1 ON0 O0 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F6 A1 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    222    SFO  10:30    ORD  16:46    320      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA        858    PVG  12:10    SFO  07:59    744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    906    SFO  11:06    ORD  17:16    752      F8 A8 JN9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA    843    ORD  18:15    YYZ  20:59    319      F8 A7 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN1 X0

poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 6:01 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18187091)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:
Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?
- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?

thanks

KVS Mar 12, 2012 6:44 pm
Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187675)
Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?
Occasionally, Availability can temporarily get out-of-sync in different systems, due to airline technology limitations and/or technical issues.

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18187675)
- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?
As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide, the [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method is also recommended for Regular Availability on UA flights: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

poverty.jet.set Mar 12, 2012 9:11 pm
Hmm.
So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80 - is that because of that Shuttle America hop?
I suppose the real question is how do I know if that farecode is even available on any days on United? (since L bucket availability could be one of serveral L-fare codes)
Even on an ITA Matrix search I'm not seeing under $1250
Sigh, I thought this would simplify things :confused:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA        836    PVG  15:55    ORD  16:23    772      F5 FN7 A0 ON4 O2 J9 JN5 C9 D9 Z9 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA/S5  3483    ORD  21:00    YYZ  23:26    E70      F5 A0 JN5 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0

KVS Mar 12, 2012 9:43 pm
Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set (Post 18188679)
So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80
That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.

cbourl Mar 13, 2012 2:10 am
hi yes im running the latest kvs tool :(

poverty.jet.set Mar 13, 2012 5:27 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18188848)
That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.
colour me stupid, but where are you getting that info, especially about the fuel surcharge?
I don't see anything about a fuel surcharge in the fare rules for the code (neither in KVS nor on UA when I make a dummy booking, including if I click on "View Rules and Restrictions" after selecting the flights).

OK wait, now I see it under "additional taxes/fees at the top of the UA trip while booking - though it says $1,237 + 117.80 in fees (yet fees list $372 in fuel surcharge, with a footnote of "some fees listed in originally quoted price").

Isn't the fuel surcharge normally mentioned in the fare rules? grr....

lxjenkins Mar 13, 2012 9:34 am
KVSTool and 4M
 
I know this has been touched on in the past - however, KVSTool is clearly showing 4M CS+ availability on the day I want to travel. Yet, when I contact BA to use Avios miles to purchase this award on 4M the agents (all 3 that I've spoken to) adamantly claim that there is no such availability. Is it possible that the KVSTool is wrong?

golfmad Mar 13, 2012 9:40 am
Originally Posted by lxjenkins (Post 18191550)
I know this has been touched on in the past - however, KVSTool is clearly showing 4M CS+ availability on the day I want to travel. Yet, when I contact BA to use Avios miles to purchase this award on 4M the agents (all 3 that I've spoken to) adamantly claim that there is no such availability. Is it possible that the KVSTool is wrong?
What flight and date are you looking for?

KVS Mar 13, 2012 11:38 am
Originally Posted by cbourl (Post 18189618)
hi yes im running the latest kvs tool :(
Please try clearing your MSIE Cookies & Cache. If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/


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