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Originally Posted by Stefan Sip
(Post 29412027)
Can KVS search for UA R-space upgrade availability? If so, how do I search for it?
For a list of supported Award/Upgrade Booking Classes, please consult the UA section of the KVS Tool User Guide. |
TG202 on Apr 6.
Been trying to look at the seat map in econ for the past 2 months but keep on coming up "Seat map is unavailable or closed". Anyone know why? I was able to do it for a similar TG flight back in Oct. |
Originally Posted by seks
(Post 29433771)
TG202 on Apr 6.
Been trying to look at the seat map in econ for the past 2 months but keep on coming up "Seat map is unavailable or closed". Anyone know why? I was able to do it for a similar TG flight back in Oct. TG seatmaps are typically unavailable for domestic flights...on HKT flights I would say the chance of aircraft swap is very high so they never allow management of seat allocation online etc. So this isn't a KVS issue...it's a TG 'thing'. |
There's a few quirks I've noticed on the KVS timetable search where some results aren't showing through. Any ideas on what's happening?
1. Some legal connections don't seem to show up. I've come across this a few times E.g. LAD-DXB-LIS on EK, DLA-ADD-FRA on ET, MAO-PTY-POS on CM etc. Could it be that these are all connections that significantly exceed the direct routing mileage and are therefore edited out of the results? Even if the airlines themselves publish and sell fares on these markets? 2. Some airports seem to not be available at all. DSS for instance, the new airport in Dakar yields a "the requested origin is invalid" result even if most (all?) airlines have moved operations from DKR |
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29441673)
There's a few quirks I've noticed on the KVS timetable search where some results aren't showing through. Any ideas on what's happening?
1. Some legal connections don't seem to show up. I've come across this a few times E.g. LAD-DXB-LIS on EK, DLA-ADD-FRA on ET, MAO-PTY-POS on CM etc. Could it be that these are all connections that significantly exceed the direct routing mileage and are therefore edited out of the results? Even if the airlines themselves publish and sell fares on these markets? 2. Some airports seem to not be available at all. DSS for instance, the new airport in Dakar yields a "the requested origin is invalid" result even if most (all?) airlines have moved operations from DKR |
Originally Posted by vbroucek
(Post 29445180)
All you get is what you pay for. If you pay thieves, all you get is stolen goods. And that's exactly what you're doing and getting from KVS... Honestly, if I was you, I would be happy that I was getting at least something :D Potentially, KVS could disappear completely any moment and you would not have any recourse... It has been well known for years that the company is fraudulent and uses fraudulent if not illegal methods. I cannot believe that people are still paying money to this scum...
But since you seem quite knowledgable on these matters, can you perhaps help me by pointing out alternative tools that allow easy timetable searches? Expertflyer, which I also subscribe to, for instance, is in my experience, highly inadequate... for timetable searches. |
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29441673)
1. Some legal connections don't seem to show up. I've come across this a few times E.g. LAD-DXB-LIS on EK, DLA-ADD-FRA on ET, MAO-PTY-POS on CM etc.
Could it be that these are all connections that significantly exceed the direct routing mileage and are therefore edited out of the results? Even if the airlines themselves publish and sell fares on these markets? 2. Some airports seem to not be available at all. DSS for instance, the new airport in Dakar yields a "the requested origin is invalid" result even if most (all?) airlines have moved operations from DKR Code:
tnladlis/aek |
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29445378)
I am well aware of these discussions about KVS. But i fail to see how your reply is in any way relevant to the question asked.
And for the second question - again, thieves did not bother yet updating their tables... You are paying for lemon, get over it... |
Originally Posted by vbroucek
(Post 29447971)
You have asked "Some legal connections don't seem to show up..." and I clearly answered - it is because KVS is stealing data where ever they manage at given time and they simply do not have source of such data. Simple and clear answer, sorry you do not like it.
And for the second question - again, thieves did not bother yet updating their tables... You are paying for lemon, get over it... Did you have any suggestions for alternative timetable searches? I'm genuinely keen to find some that are both user-friendly and reliable. |
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29449896)
Not quite the case and I don't understand what your beef is here. Using the same KVS timetable function I can see the timetables for all of the sectors that i listed but only as separate queries. So i can see MAO-PTY and PTY-POS. But not MAO-POS. This has nothing to do with "stealing" or anything. It seems to me that this is some system limitation which i'm trying to understand.
That supports what I (and also Oliver2002) said. KVS is scrapping tool, it does not build, calculate or edit anything. It displays whatever they manage to scape illegally from various engines. So they have source to scrape the sectors, but they don't have source to scrape full itinerary.
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29449896)
Did you have any suggestions for alternative timetable searches? I'm genuinely keen to find some that are both user-friendly and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29449896)
This has nothing to do with "stealing" or anything. It seems to me that this is some system limitation which i'm trying to understand.
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Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29441673)
There's a few quirks I've noticed on the KVS timetable search where some results aren't showing through. Any ideas on what's happening?
1. Some legal connections don't seem to show up. I've come across this a few times E.g. LAD-DXB-LIS on EK, DLA-ADD-FRA on ET, MAO-PTY-POS on CM etc. Could it be that these are all connections that significantly exceed the direct routing mileage and are therefore edited out of the results? Even if the airlines themselves publish and sell fares on these markets? Specifically, LAD-DXB-LIS is almost 175% of the MPM. Therefore, they would not be shown by the [Timetable] Engine automatically. As always, you can force any routing of your choice by searching segment-by-segment. Alternatively, the [Availability] Engine can be forced to construct such routings by specifying an airline preference: https://i.imgur.com/ruUM0kll.png
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 29441673)
2. Some airports seem to not be available at all. DSS for instance, the new airport in Dakar yields a "the requested origin is invalid" result even if most (all?) airlines have moved operations from DKR
As always, please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) if you have questions or require assistance regarding the KVS Tool. |
accusations of theft and fraud are far-fetched and have no basis in law or reality... at worst (and this is open to some debate) KVS is just a tool which enables its users to violate the terms-of-service of some of the relevant websites.
let's please keep such hyped accusations and noise to a minimum before the mods need to come in and clean things up once again... |
Originally Posted by lewinr
(Post 29466573)
accusations of theft and fraud are far-fetched and have no basis in law or reality... at worst (and this is open to some debate) KVS is just a tool which enables its users to violate the terms-of-service of some of the relevant websites.
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KVS & KE
I have used KVS successfully for award availability for 3 RTWs, so I know a bit about it. Using an AF user for ST, I am searching for award availability for KE. I have found KE award availability as part of a multi-segment flight, but I can not find any award availability for any class from any US airport on many random dates during the next 3-6 months. What gives?
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