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KVS Nov 25, 2014 9:44 am


Originally Posted by rehoult (Post 23892673)
I specifically subscribe to KVS based solely on it NOT being a website.

Please contact us via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/


Originally Posted by typical (Post 23893555)
I have, yes. If I understand rightly, it is:
1) Find a different fare
2) Navigate through some menus
3) Type in a set of city codes and a particular RTW fare code

I still haven't figured out how to see the set of possible RTW fare codes from a particular city

Your understanding is correct -- currently, each specific RTW Fare must be requested separately.


Originally Posted by azeckel (Post 23893538)
Basic questions - forgive my naivete. I'm trying to figure out if the value of this tool for my particular needs is greater than the cost (and at what level I would need to "contribute" should I chose to do so).

I used to use EF every couple of weeks to look at fare bucket availability for DL flights in the continental US. Not partner availability, but DL marketed flights. I'm sad that it's gone. Does this tool offer that sort of visibility? Like Y9 B9 M9 Q4 H0.... type of stuff? I would use this info to find SDC opportunities, respond to IROPS, etc.

Probably once or twice a year it might be nice to use a tool like this to look for DL awards (again primarily in the continental US), but I was never able to use EF for that. Is that something that is available in the KVS Tool?

Yes and yes -- the KVS Tool supports both of the above-mentioned functions at the Diamond Level.

YXSflyer Nov 25, 2014 12:20 pm

Fares with unspecified airline
 
Apart from still not being able to do US/CA fare searches, it's now impossible to search for fares without specifying an airline? If I leave the airline field blank, it defaults to IATA YY fares, which of course are insanely expensive. By that logic, just searching for fares between A and B to see which airline has the best deal isn't possible anymore?

KVS Nov 25, 2014 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by YXSflyer (Post 23896555)
it's now impossible to search for fares without specifying an airline? If I leave the airline field blank, it defaults to IATA YY fares, which of course are insanely expensive. By that logic, just searching for fares between A and B to see which airline has the best deal isn't possible anymore?

Please be sure to select the "** (All Airlines)" option, not "YY (IATA YY Fares)":

[KVS Tool 7.7.2/Diamond - Fares/GOL]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY SEN QQS ZLS XQE
R/T  01 Feb 2015 | 15 Feb 2015

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur            Min  Max  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  ----------
DY        NYC    LON        66  USD                      XSRGB
DL        NYC    LON      123  USD            Sun  12M  VLXP34US
DL        NYC    LON      123  USD            Sun  12M  VLWP34US
BA        NYC    LON      123  USD            Sun  365  OLA0Q2G1
[..]


YXSflyer Nov 25, 2014 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23897911)
Please be sure to select the "** (All Airlines)" option, not "YY (IATA YY Fares)":

Thanks!

G_G Nov 29, 2014 1:58 pm

Hello

Why did you remove the GTC availability method ?

BTW the new (and only one) fare method is a shame : having to double-click to see the fare bucket :rolleyes:

Air Rarotonga Nov 30, 2014 9:43 am

@ KVS

Thank you for answering this questions about your tool:
  • Why won't you integrate the mobile availability into the tool?
  • Why does the tool not contain any link to the mobile availability site?
  • What's the POS of the mobile availability site?
  • Which GDS supplies the data to the mobile availability site?
  • What's the POS of the Fares/GOL method?

mboca28 Nov 30, 2014 11:07 am

help
 
from reading the comments and seeing the new kvs availability tool screens i am trying to figure the following

i ised to be able to see availability for the different classes a j etc

this allowed me to wait out for lastminute aeroplan purchases on lh lx and united

for example if 8 seats were available then i knew that 1 would be released a week before and a second the next day how do i still do this
i am a long time kvs user and actually enjoyed the service

KVS Nov 30, 2014 11:39 am


Originally Posted by G_G (Post 23915381)
Why did you remove the GTC availability method ?

It was removed for policy reasons.


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 23918496)
@ KVS

Thank you for answering this questions about your tool:
  • Why won't you integrate the mobile availability into the tool?
  • Why does the tool not contain any link to the mobile availability site?

This type of integration is being considered, but is currently not feasible for operational reasons.


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 23918496)
  • What's the POS of the mobile availability site?
  • Which GDS supplies the data to the mobile availability site?
  • What's the POS of the Fares/GOL method?

These parameters are dynamically-managed and not fixed.


Originally Posted by mboca28 (Post 23918843)
from reading the comments and seeing the new kvs availability tool screens i am trying to figure the following

i ised to be able to see availability for the different classes a j etc

this allowed me to wait out for lastminute aeroplan purchases on lh lx and united

for example if 8 seats were available then i knew that 1 would be released a week before and a second the next day how do i still do this
i am a long time kvs user and actually enjoyed the service

Regular Availability is currently accessible via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

percysmith Nov 30, 2014 7:20 pm

[Issue fixed 12 Dec (post #53 below)]


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23918994)
Regular Availability is currently accessible via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

I'm not sure whether this is new, I certainly haven't noticed this with Availability/FS and Availability/GTC before

But the KVS Tool Mobile Companion results are incomplete. Examples:

HKG-MEL 22Dec CX Direct: CX105 00:05 not shown
HKG-YVR 15Jul CX Direct: CX888 00:30 not shown
HKG-DOH 15Oct all airlines direct: QR815 01:30 not shown

In the long run we really need an Availability search function back in the tool.

Viajero Millero Nov 30, 2014 8:44 pm

I renewed my Diamond membership (my 7th contribution to date) and they quoted me what I said in the other thread:

"I don't think I'll be able to continue 'supporting' this tool"
"Thankfully, there are alternatives."


And asked me why I changed my mind?

Simply put, my dislike for your business practices and the $45 fee for 6 months does not outweigh my need for the convenience the Tool offers.

But of course, if the practices get shadier or the "contribution" amount increases, that may change.

cmn.jcs Nov 30, 2014 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 23920914)
I'm not sure whether this is new, I certainly haven't noticed this with Availability/FS and Availability/GTC before

But the KVS Tool Mobile Companion results are incomplete. Examples:

HKG-MEL 22Dec CX Direct: CX105 00:05 not shown
HKG-YVR 15Jul CX Direct: CX888 00:30 not shown
HKG-DOH 15Oct all airlines direct: QR815 01:30 not shown


In the long run we really need an Availability search function back in the tool.

It's a known bug (in that the bug is stated somewhere on the KVS website). The mobile companion availability search can't display flights before 0700. It's unclear why that is. I haven't seen any workarounds.

ETA: bug has been fixed; see post 53.

KVS Nov 30, 2014 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 23920914)
But the KVS Tool Mobile Companion results are incomplete. Examples:

HKG-MEL 22Dec CX Direct: CX105 00:05 not shown
HKG-YVR 15Jul CX Direct: CX888 00:30 not shown
HKG-DOH 15Oct all airlines direct: QR815 01:30 not shown

Any workarounds?

The Mobile Companion Engine was previously unable to display flights departing earlier than 07:00 [am]. This issue has now been resolved and the website will be updated shortly.

percysmith Nov 30, 2014 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23921505)
The Mobile Companion Engine was previously unable to display flights departing earlier than 07:00 [am]. This issue has now been resolved and the website will be updated shortly.

OK, can see the the three flights now, thanks for resolving.

zara Dec 3, 2014 9:48 am

One World Awards
 
Hi KVS,
is there a know bug which prevents looking up award seats using the QF/One World method? All I get is a "Engine Error"
Thanks :)

KVS Dec 3, 2014 10:04 am


Originally Posted by zara (Post 23935902)
Hi KVS,
is there a know bug which prevents looking up award seats using the QF/One World method? All I get is a "Engine Error"
Thanks :)

What are your search parameters?


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