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For any airline, awards are not valid on codeshares as the same fare class codes are used for other purposes on other airlines and the reservation system doesn't know the difference.
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BA/QR/IB
Hi folks, we're testing a solution for BA/QR/IB awards in production, so you can search (ignore the message at the top of the page) and please email us directly if you find searches where there is an issue with the results or that just don't work, thank you.
Update 4/29: We're fixing edge case issues as they come up. As part of that we may have to turn off the search from time to time. We'll post here with updates and we won't remove the notification banners from the results pages until we think we have it correct. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 34007448)
The issue is that there is more than one fare with the same fare basis code so the reservation system doesn't know which fares rules to return, so we don't get any rules. On our todo list is to show a message to this effect instead of the blank response you see now.
To actually see some fare rules, I used ITA Matrix to price a specific itinerary, then clicked ITA's Fare Rules link. But that's a lot more steps -- have to price an itinerary, whereas I much prefer the EF approach of letting me browse all fares in a market. I guess I don't quite understand what the problem is. If there are five fares with the same fare basis code, show all five on one page (with appropriate section headings). Or show the user a menu/choice ("there are five fares ABCDE in this market, as prices x y z w q, which do you want to see?"). It's a real loss in EF functionality when fare rules are not available. This is a big part of the service that savvy users pay for! |
Originally Posted by bedelman
(Post 34227181)
To actually see some fare rules, I used ITA Matrix to price a specific itinerary, then clicked ITA's Fare Rules link. But that's a lot more steps -- have to price an itinerary, whereas I much prefer the EF approach of letting me browse all fares in a market.
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Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice
(Post 34227851)
In addition we aren't given the ability to see all the fare rules for all the duplicate fares, or even tell the difference between them, therefore we cannot give you that option.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 34227911)
Is there a way you can ask your data provider to make this available? Then you could display them all and let the subscriber figure out which of the duplicate fares is applicable.
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I see EF mentioned extensively in relation to awards, fare classes, seats, etc.
Before I spend for a subscription, is EF useful for monitoring airfares? For example, I am considering two domestic trips this fall and I'm budget conscious. As a generic example, does EF allow for an alert if a fare falls below $500 for IAD-FAI for travel between September 1 and September 30? |
Originally Posted by lamphs
(Post 34233122)
I see EF mentioned extensively in relation to awards, fare classes, seats, etc.
Before I spend for a subscription, is EF useful for monitoring airfares? For example, I am considering two domestic trips this fall and I'm budget conscious. As a generic example, does EF allow for an alert if a fare falls below $500 for IAD-FAI for travel between September 1 and September 30? |
Originally Posted by lamphs
(Post 34233122)
I see EF mentioned extensively in relation to awards, fare classes, seats, etc.
Before I spend for a subscription, is EF useful for monitoring airfares? For example, I am considering two domestic trips this fall and I'm budget conscious. As a generic example, does EF allow for an alert if a fare falls below $500 for IAD-FAI for travel between September 1 and September 30? |
Originally Posted by lamphs
(Post 34233122)
As a generic example, does EF allow for an alert if a fare falls below $500 for IAD-FAI for travel between September 1 and September 30?
The fares part of EF is really good for getting the fine detail of fare rules, which can help you to build a trip better using the other fine detail available from EF and elsewhere. (That's why there's so much frustration at the increasing number of times that EF is unable to display fare rules.) If you just want a superficial headline search like "Can I fly this trip for less than $500?", then that's a job for ITA or GF. |
Originally Posted by lamphs
(Post 34233122)
I see EF mentioned extensively in relation to awards, fare classes, seats, etc.
Before I spend for a subscription, is EF useful for monitoring airfares? For example, I am considering two domestic trips this fall and I'm budget conscious. As a generic example, does EF allow for an alert if a fare falls below $500 for IAD-FAI for travel between September 1 and September 30? If you really want to find the cheapest fares or cheapest fares that aren't basic economy or some such, you can use EF to do it, but it takes some work. First, do a Fare Information query for fares for your origination and destination, being sure to check the box for "Show Fares for All Travel Dates" and uncheck "Validate Fares". That shows all published fares for the starting and ending cities. Then, pick the cheapest fare you want to buy and read through the routing rules and fare rules to see if you could use that fare. If so, make note of the booking inventory required, and do a Flight Availability query to see if there are flights that have the available inventory. If not, set an EF alert to notify you if the required inventory becomes available. |
award (currently-unavailable)
HI,
I'm trying to set an alert for a VS flight and in the code class section is lists the codes as currently-unavailable. What does this mean exactly? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by HG_Flyer
(Post 34250136)
HI,
I'm trying to set an alert for a VS flight and in the code class section is lists the codes as currently-unavailable. What does this mean exactly? Thanks! |
Any update on Qatar Airways awards being reintroduced? I got expertflyer last week, and was disappointed to find out that this doesent work. Is it possible to get a refund?
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Originally Posted by ronjames
(Post 34253689)
Any update on Qatar Airways awards being reintroduced? I got expertflyer last week, and was disappointed to find out that this doesent work. Is it possible to get a refund?
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