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nmenaker Aug 22, 2010 6:34 pm

apple
 

Originally Posted by planemechanic (Post 14526433)
The numbers I have seen indicate that about 10% of iPhones are jailbroken.

apple reported this as less than 2%?

As for this "patent" I agree, might be hard to get, but they are most likely working it (and possibly arguably so) from the security standpoint. Apple REALLY wants to get deeper into the corporate / enterprise sector. Remote kill and remote wipe were KEY to that adoption for security options if devices are lost or misplaced or stolen. If someone jailbreaks and HACKS an iphone, one of the options available is to DISABLE the REMOTE KILL functionality that either the user/security admin/apple has. If that is turned OFF, then the ability to protect corp data, contacts, emails etc. is eliminated. They simply HAVE to have a back door in place to be able to offer a closed loop security solution to corporations should they want/demand it.

As for the general user, I see NO risk in this at all per the recent ruling and even WITHOUT the recent ruling.

jackal Aug 22, 2010 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by planemechanic (Post 14526433)
The numbers I have seen indicate that about 10% of iPhones are jailbroken.

I'm more inclined to believe Apple's official numbers, or at least something midway between theirs and yours.

I know well north of a hundred people with iPhones, and not a single one of them has jailbroken their phones (despite most of them being techie-geeks who definitely know the advantages of jailbreaking).

Don't get me wrong--several things about jailbreaking do appeal to me, one of the primary being the optional lock screen with detailed notifications as well as access to fun apps like Signal. I just don't find the benefits to be worth the hassle and the potential risks, however small.

planemechanic Aug 23, 2010 3:42 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 14527673)
I'm more inclined to believe Apple's official numbers, or at least something midway between theirs and yours.

I know well north of a hundred people with iPhones, and not a single one of them has jailbroken their phones (despite most of them being techie-geeks who definitely know the advantages of jailbreaking).

Don't get me wrong--several things about jailbreaking do appeal to me, one of the primary being the optional lock screen with detailed notifications as well as access to fun apps like Signal. I just don't find the benefits to be worth the hassle and the potential risks, however small.


I was simply reporting numbers I had read elsewhere on the net. Sorry if I made it sound concrete. Personally I would like more flexibility with the iPhone but not enough to jailbreak one. If you read the Apple blogs and the iPhone blogs it seems that every third story is about jailbreaking, how exciting it is to them and how the apps are so cool. It would seem, based on that level of reporting that 8 out of 10 iPhones are jailbroken. I would not be surprised in the least if the numbers were closer to 2% than 10%.

nmenaker Aug 23, 2010 7:55 am

negligible
 

Originally Posted by jackal (Post 14527673)
Don't get me wrong--several things about jailbreaking do appeal to me, one of the primary being the optional lock screen with detailed notifications as well as access to fun apps like Signal. I just don't find the benefits to be worth the hassle and the potential risks, however small.

I think at this point in the game we are pretty much at essentially zero hassle and extremely low potential risks. Jailbreaking at this point is childs play. I fully expect someone, devteam, to put out a jb solution soon that continues the trivial nature of the jailbreak, but also allows selectable options that plug any of the security holes left by apple in previous versions of the software and re-set the SSH device password and selectably install some of the most popular jb features. So, say 60 seconds worth of configuration of options (which includes reading what they do) and then about three minutes to run the jailbreak and setup. And one reboot.

I TOTALLY understand apples objective for the closed system and it has worked very well for them for the past decade. But, voiding warranty aside, people should be able to do with it what they like.

riteshraja Aug 23, 2010 1:58 pm

Genious Scan - for expense report receipts. Crop, file, create pdf, email etc pictures of receipts taken with phone camera.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/geniu...377672876?mt=8

estnet Aug 23, 2010 3:42 pm

Please reconsider
 

Originally Posted by ScottC;
I'd rather not if you don't mind - especially since a lot of apps work on both devices. Perhaps renaming the thread iOS apps would help?

As an iPad only user this thread is really unhelpful to me. For example I found great app for a tabbed browser here and would like to give feedback about some issues with it - but it would get lost among all the stuff about jailbreaking, etc. There really are issues very specific to iPad that AFAIK are often different fromiphone stuff so maybe a thread dedicated to those issues/apps that are designed to run specifically on the iPad.
For example I don't think tabbed browsers or the fact that netflix requires more memory than the iPad has are really of concern to iphone users......

pdxer Aug 25, 2010 9:28 am


Originally Posted by planemechanic (Post 14526433)
The numbers I have seen indicate that about 10% of iPhones are jailbroken.


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 14527673)
I'm more inclined to believe Apple's official numbers, or at least something midway between theirs and yours.

I know well north of a hundred people with iPhones, and not a single one of them has jailbroken their phones (despite most of them being techie-geeks who definitely know the advantages of jailbreaking).

Don't get me wrong--several things about jailbreaking do appeal to me, one of the primary being the optional lock screen with detailed notifications as well as access to fun apps like Signal. I just don't find the benefits to be worth the hassle and the potential risks, however small.

i haven't seen apple cite any numbers but the 10% for jailbroken devices comes from the author of cydia, which gets installed when an iphone is jailbroken.

he knows how many instances of cydia are out there and from that, it's easy to determine what percentage of total iphones and ipods are jailbroken based on apple's sales numbers.

fredsxb Aug 25, 2010 9:30 am

Fring:

http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=2440

The Fring team videocalled me during a MIA-JFK DL flight !

stimpy Aug 25, 2010 9:52 am


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 14544064)
i haven't seen apple cite any numbers but the 10% for jailbroken devices comes from the author of cydia, which gets installed when an iphone is jailbroken.

he knows how many instances of cydia are out there and from that, it's easy to determine what percentage of total iphones and ipods are jailbroken based on apple's sales numbers.

Yes, there are a couple of ways to determine the numbers. The people who manage the jailbreaking and unlocking publish their statistics. If I recall correctly, they had about 750,000 Iphone4 unlocks in the first week, and these were activated in over 180 countries.

Another very interesting statistic came from China Mobile, about a year into the first iPhone. They reported that 600,000 iPhones were operating in China (based on the IMEI) on their network, using their SIM cards. The only way these phones could be doing that is if they were bought in America, jailbroken and unlocked. This combined with numerous reports of Chinese people buying up as many phones at the Apple store would sell and flying them home.

My own personal observations are that less than half of the American iPhone users I know have jailbroken their phones. Whereas almost 100% of non-American iPhone users jailbreak and unlock. Most Americans don't need the unlock, but many of us who travel around the world, or live in a place that didn't or doesn't have a good iPhone tariff do need the unlock.

Randy Petersen Aug 25, 2010 9:58 am

while iPad only, I have found that the Flipboard app is my favorite.

I spend more time reading and using the news and info in that format than any other, especially since i have customized it for all my various interests.

Someone did a great job in designing this app.

brp Aug 25, 2010 9:59 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 14544257)

My own personal observations are that less than half of the American iPhone users I know have jailbroken their phones. Whereas almost 100% of non-American iPhone users jailbreak and unlock. Most Americans don't need the unlock, but many of us who travel around the world, or live in a place that didn't or doesn't have a good iPhone tariff do need the unlock.

I have an unlocked Moto RAZR. When traveling overseas, I'll just pop a local SIM into that phone and use it for calls, if need be. I don't need to jailbreak/unlock my iPhone (for calling purposes) because of that. I can use wifi abroad (Boingo) when abroad without jailbreaking. It will serve the same basic purpose as unlocking the iPhone. Sure, I'll have two devices with me, but they're both small enough.

Cheers.

fredsxb Aug 25, 2010 10:05 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 14544257)
Yes, there are a couple of ways to determine the numbers. The people who manage the jailbreaking and unlocking publish their statistics. If I recall correctly, they had about 750,000 Iphone4 unlocks in the first week, and these were activated in over 180 countries.

Another very interesting statistic came from China Mobile, about a year into the first iPhone. They reported that 600,000 iPhones were operating in China (based on the IMEI) on their network, using their SIM cards. The only way these phones could be doing that is if they were bought in America, jailbroken and unlocked. This combined with numerous reports of Chinese people buying up as many phones at the Apple store would sell and flying them home.

My own personal observations are that less than half of the American iPhone users I know have jailbroken their phones. Whereas almost 100% of non-American iPhone users jailbreak and unlock. Most Americans don't need the unlock, but many of us who travel around the world, or live in a place that didn't or doesn't have a good iPhone tariff do need the unlock.

I live in France and 90% of my friends do not jailbreak their iPhones. I own 3 iPhones among which 1 is jailbroken (I use it with MyWi & prepaid SIMs when I'm abroad). All my iPhones are officially unlocked by Orange France (free 6 months after purchase or EUR75 before that). I unlock my iPhones in order to use prepaid SIMs wherever I travel (I'm a relatively heavy data user: around 500-600 Mb per month and can't justify the outrageous roaming charges that it would cost me (EUR13/Mb), not even considering the pain & impracticability of Orange iPhone Roaming plans that are only valid for 7 days and limited to 35Mb)

Inspirator Aug 27, 2010 5:48 pm

TripTracker
 
I have really grown dependent on TripTracker from PageOnce. It consolidates my various reservations automatically (have to set it up with my logins/passwords first) and then it knows my airline reservations, hotel, rental car, as well as those from major services like expedia, travelocity, etc. Since I use different services on different trips it's very convenient to have it all in one place to review reservations, see departure/arrival times or changes, view a map of the current location of a flight. It seems to get a bit confused about being online since Ios 4.0, but if you use another app first (e.g. Apple's weather app) then it has no problem, I expect they'll fix this in an upgrade soon.

adambadam Aug 27, 2010 7:16 pm

I finally decided to subscribe to the WSJ and their iPad app, which is free to subscribers, for now, is very good at transposing the actual paper each day to an electronic form. If you subscribe and you haven't tried out this app yet, give it a shot.

Also there is an app called ForeFlight that I was shown and it is a virtual knee board for pilots mainly, though even if you are just a flying enthusiast like me you may still find it very cool. For $75 a year you can get full maps of all US airports. I am talking the approach patterns and the taxi routes, etc. It also has all the frequencies and phone numbers. There is also the big IFR/VFR maps. Finally they have weather and mind maps too for the country. There is an iPhone and iPad version and you can download it for free and try out a demo account if you like (thats what I have right now).

RichMSN Aug 30, 2010 10:31 am


Originally Posted by Randy Petersen (Post 14544306)
while iPad only, I have found that the Flipboard app is my favorite.

I spend more time reading and using the news and info in that format than any other, especially since i have customized it for all my various interests.

Someone did a great job in designing this app.

As someone who read your review of this and downloaded it this morning (and I'm impressed by it!), I was wondering if you can have more than 9 feeds. I couldn't figure out if there was any way to add more. If not, I'll have to pick my choices carefully, I guess!


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