iPhone 7
Nov 26, 2016, 8:47 pm
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What's the current thinking on the smaller iPhone 7 versus the iPhone SE? I don't need a waterproof phone and I prefer a jack for the earbuds. And I don't really see the 3D touch as that important to me. So the question is basic horsepower and battery life. Is the 7 leaps and bounds better than the SE for that? Am I missing something?
Nov 28, 2016, 1:24 am
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FWIW, a few stores were giving $250 gift cards with purchase of an iPhone 7 on Black Friday which made it effectively the same price as the SE and cheaper than the 6S.
I got one from Target whose GC is as good as cash for us.
I got one from Target whose GC is as good as cash for us.
Nov 28, 2016, 6:49 am
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Becoming more and more upset as I think Apple downgraded or cheaped out somewhere. My iPhone 6+ or 6S+ never had any actual issues.
My iPhone7 has now gotten 'stuck' in messages twice. Had to force restart. It has locked up a few times requiring a force restart. There is some known GPS/location issue with PCS carriers. There was supposedly an update but it still happens randomly.
AND... as someone who loves to ride my motorcycle. The haptic button becomes more and more frustrating. Can't use the phone with gloves on. Stop at a light and need to change something or look at where the GPS is going next and can't do anything without removing a glove.
My iPhone7 has now gotten 'stuck' in messages twice. Had to force restart. It has locked up a few times requiring a force restart. There is some known GPS/location issue with PCS carriers. There was supposedly an update but it still happens randomly.
AND... as someone who loves to ride my motorcycle. The haptic button becomes more and more frustrating. Can't use the phone with gloves on. Stop at a light and need to change something or look at where the GPS is going next and can't do anything without removing a glove.
Nov 28, 2016, 4:36 pm
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What's the current thinking on the smaller iPhone 7 versus the iPhone SE? I don't need a waterproof phone and I prefer a jack for the earbuds. And I don't really see the 3D touch as that important to me. So the question is basic horsepower and battery life. Is the 7 leaps and bounds better than the SE for that? Am I missing something?
Nov 28, 2016, 6:07 pm
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Nov 28, 2016, 6:24 pm
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Wait, 4s as in the one released in 2011? The 5 series is basically the same design, but with a bigger screen. Dropping the smaller display size from support in iOS 10 was a big advantage for app designers. One less display size to worry about rendering.
Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 pm
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Nov 29, 2016, 10:24 pm
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I have the 7plus and cant log in to Flyer Talk. The message reads, "There appears to be a connection issue between your device and Flyer Talk. Please try again"
Other applications work fine.
I purchased better wireless headphones and am not sure how I feel about them yet. I will carry the adaptor and my normal headphones for awhile. This was an upgrade from the 6 plus. Previous to that I had the 6. No way could I go back to a smaller screen. I haven't explored the camera features fully yet.
Other applications work fine.
I purchased better wireless headphones and am not sure how I feel about them yet. I will carry the adaptor and my normal headphones for awhile. This was an upgrade from the 6 plus. Previous to that I had the 6. No way could I go back to a smaller screen. I haven't explored the camera features fully yet.
Dec 2, 2016, 9:01 am
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I have the 7plus and cant log in to Flyer Talk. The message reads, "There appears to be a connection issue between your device and Flyer Talk. Please try again"
Other applications work fine.
I purchased better wireless headphones and am not sure how I feel about them yet. I will carry the adaptor and my normal headphones for awhile. This was an upgrade from the 6 plus. Previous to that I had the 6. No way could I go back to a smaller screen. I haven't explored the camera features fully yet.
Other applications work fine.
I purchased better wireless headphones and am not sure how I feel about them yet. I will carry the adaptor and my normal headphones for awhile. This was an upgrade from the 6 plus. Previous to that I had the 6. No way could I go back to a smaller screen. I haven't explored the camera features fully yet.
Otherwise some sites (including FT) show crappy wap sites with limited functionalities.
Dec 2, 2016, 10:50 am
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My wife got the smaller 7 a few weeks ago, and my daughter (26 yo) just got an SE a few days ago. My daughter says the SE battery life is far better than her old 5s, my wife got the Apple battery case so harder to tell with that one.
Note that the SE still comes standard with 16 gb, with just 5 gb of photos or music OS upgrades may not have enough room to download and install, so you'll probably want the 64 gb model for $100 more. The 7 comes standard with 32gb so that might be enough if you don't need to store much media, otherwise the next step is 132 for $100 more.
The SE uses the same cases and screen protectors as the 5s, so that can be handy for that particular upgrade path.
My daughter liked the 5s size and didn't want to go larger. My wife was originally looking at the SE too, she wasn't sure if she'd like the larger size but has grown to prefer it. At the time, with the trade in promotion (from 5s) the 7 was cheaper than the SE.
My daughter bought the SE on cyber monday special for $10/month, the 16 gb model was $5/month so in either case wait for a sale if you can.
Note that the SE still comes standard with 16 gb, with just 5 gb of photos or music OS upgrades may not have enough room to download and install, so you'll probably want the 64 gb model for $100 more. The 7 comes standard with 32gb so that might be enough if you don't need to store much media, otherwise the next step is 132 for $100 more.
The SE uses the same cases and screen protectors as the 5s, so that can be handy for that particular upgrade path.
My daughter liked the 5s size and didn't want to go larger. My wife was originally looking at the SE too, she wasn't sure if she'd like the larger size but has grown to prefer it. At the time, with the trade in promotion (from 5s) the 7 was cheaper than the SE.
My daughter bought the SE on cyber monday special for $10/month, the 16 gb model was $5/month so in either case wait for a sale if you can.
Dec 2, 2016, 1:19 pm
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My wife got the smaller 7 a few weeks ago, and my daughter (26 yo) just got an SE a few days ago. My daughter says the SE battery life is far better than her old 5s, my wife got the Apple battery case so harder to tell with that one.
Note that the SE still comes standard with 16 gb, with just 5 gb of photos or music OS upgrades may not have enough room to download and install, so you'll probably want the 64 gb model for $100 more. The 7 comes standard with 32gb so that might be enough if you don't need to store much media, otherwise the next step is 132 for $100 more.
The SE uses the same cases and screen protectors as the 5s, so that can be handy for that particular upgrade path.
My daughter liked the 5s size and didn't want to go larger. My wife was originally looking at the SE too, she wasn't sure if she'd like the larger size but has grown to prefer it. At the time, with the trade in promotion (from 5s) the 7 was cheaper than the SE.
My daughter bought the SE on cyber monday special for $10/month, the 16 gb model was $5/month so in either case wait for a sale if you can.
Note that the SE still comes standard with 16 gb, with just 5 gb of photos or music OS upgrades may not have enough room to download and install, so you'll probably want the 64 gb model for $100 more. The 7 comes standard with 32gb so that might be enough if you don't need to store much media, otherwise the next step is 132 for $100 more.
The SE uses the same cases and screen protectors as the 5s, so that can be handy for that particular upgrade path.
My daughter liked the 5s size and didn't want to go larger. My wife was originally looking at the SE too, she wasn't sure if she'd like the larger size but has grown to prefer it. At the time, with the trade in promotion (from 5s) the 7 was cheaper than the SE.
My daughter bought the SE on cyber monday special for $10/month, the 16 gb model was $5/month so in either case wait for a sale if you can.
Dec 2, 2016, 1:23 pm
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Just to be clear, the iPhone 7 or SE bought in the US is exactly the same hardware as one bought in Europe, right? They don't take away any frequencies or antennas to support old Verizon CDMA or anything?
Dec 2, 2016, 2:02 pm
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There are also two versions of the SE, both have CDMA and GSM abilities. The European version and the Sprint version (A1723) are the same, the North America version (A1662) has LTE bands that are more frequently used here.
So, no they're different.