I switched from a BB to a 5 and initially thought the battery life was terrible. I read a few threads, read a few Apple FAQs, spent 5 minutes adjusting some settings, and now it's 9:30 pm with 57% battery left.

What did you do?

He went back to his BB. *runs away*

Poor guy!

Adjusted most of the Location and Notification settings. I have no idea why 3/4 of the applications on my machine need to know my location to do what they need to, or why they feel they need to push data t me all the time. I also turned off wi-fi during my long Monday commute, and I set my Hotmail/Gmail accounts to manual pulls, though I left Exchange as a real-time push.

I also turned the screen down from blind-me-bright to 75%, about what my BB was.


Regarding market share, anyone who thinks that looking at the last quarter market share is an indication of how the iPhone5 is doing doesn't quite get it. Android is down 1% and iOS is up over 2% in the last 10-14 days. You know, since the iPhone 5 was actually released. And there is still a 2-3 week wait - check the data about the end of November, I think you'll see very different data.

These numbers are always interesting, but it is too much to ask for a source when posted? Not surprising to see Android down - there is nothing really new there. A lot of these numbers are based around a single phone release. Hottest phone (Galaxy S3) is not so hot any more, so it makes sense that the iPhone 5 would take over the market for a while.

Yes you can do all sorts of things to reduce battery consumption, but we didn't have to do any of those tricks with the iPhone 4. And why should we?

Yes, when I hear how great the iPhone share is I always ask for a source and it turns out the source is US sales, where indeed the iPhone rules. But it's not the leader everywhere. In fact in the largest market it's not even second place (China). Nor is it tops when you look at world-wide numbers.

That said, I think the mini-iPad will have massive Christmas sales so buy your Apple stock now.

It's not for everyone, but those who are comfortable with their location being used can benefit by more relevant information, targeted ads (as opposed to broader ones they'd see instead), improved social functionality. Both iOS and Android take advantage of the capability by default, but warn you they are doing so. When you don't desire these things, you can easily turn them off, as you did. I'm the opposite of you... I prefer to have all my information pushed to me as much as possible, I turn on my location so everything is as relevant as possible, etc. My favorite benefit is how my phone predicts where I'm driving and pulls up an ETA and map (in the background, but easily accessible if I want). Freaks some people out, but I love it.

Looking at weekly averages, Android has actually gained a minuscule fraction of share since the iPhone 5 release about a month ago. If you're point is that looking at small time periods can be misleading, I agree. For example, over the past four years, every iPhone and iPad release (with the exception of this latest one) caused Android share to drop notably for several weeks while iOS gained. It would have been easy to mistake these periods as a sign that Apple was going to reverse the long-term trend. These drops are visible in this chart, but as you can also see, weren't enough to alter the longer year-over-year trend of Android steadily gaining share and Apple more erratically losing share and then stabilizing. Looking just at the past 18 months or so, you can see that the two platforms were largely coupled, but over the past quarter (including the weeks following the IP5 release), Android has diverged markedly to the upside. Some claim that this is a result of Apple supply constraints, not the plethora of iPhone 5 and iOS 6 problems, and they could be correct. I'm betting, however, that the root cause is that consumers are realizing that Apple is now selling devices that are trying to catch up with the competition instead of leading it, and at a higher price, so they are shifting to Android more aggressively than in the past.

Is there any other single model of cell phone that sells more units?

Same source used above - http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os...20212-20121012 - didn't think a repeat was necessary.

Same point I made - comparisons against an OS/phone that already has had, or is widely expected to have, a brand new version coming is somewhat meaningless. Flip the situation and the numbers flip - you can't choose just one set of the data.

It's a bit like taking the cycle every 6 years or so that the brand new Audi S4 outsellsout-comparo's the to-be-retired M3, and trying to "show" that Audi is much better than BMW.

I don't really have a vested interest here - Android can't even pass my company's security tests and I never had in iPhone(pre-5), so I have what I have. But when I hear a bunch of anecdotal complaining about battery life (has a single phone ever been released without this complaint, other then my old BB Curve), and the only test i could quickly find that actually runs the phones through the exact same tests finds


http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smar...-iphone5.aspx#, plus my own experience, I don't get too worried.

The iPhone, with the exception of various colors and onboard memory that can't be changed, comes in one flavor by one manufacturer. Android isn't a closed system - it gives many choices of screen sizes, prices, other features, but this means that no one model is as dominant.

Massive mini-iPad sales that lead to any significant percentage of otherwise-iPad buyers opting for the mini instead will actually crush Apple's profits, not help them. If Apple can innovate with the mini iPad, unlike the IP5 where they were just catching up, perhaps the stock could run back into the 700s. I'm guessing, however, that we're more likely to see a return to early-2012 prices.

Your logic is sound IFF the outdated model causes pent up demand that results in a spike when the new model is released. This is precisely what happened with every iPhone and iPad release for years. This time, something is very different... there was no boost. Android has continued its years-long market share climb, diverging for the first time well ahead of iOS, while iOs shows no sign of climbing. The iPad Mini could change that, though if it does, it will be because Apple is selling many low-margin devices. That would boost total units sold, but be devastating for their stock.

I think Apple would be wise to release iOS 6.1 in short order - before the holiday season - and just admit to and fix all the mistakes (not just the maps). If they did that, perhaps they could restore some faith.

The problem with that Apple-biased testing is that it is running just WiFi + web surfing, not adjusting for other phone uses/configurations/radios/etc. What happens when you add bluetooth + LTE + eight running apps, for example? Also, it is comparing iOS6 to Android 4.0. Android 4.1 is the newest version, and while it is very rare at the moment, it will be widespread before the next iOS iteration and it will be installed on all new high-end Android phones (comparable to the IP5) going forward. Android 4.1 improves upon 4.0's already solid battery management.

Did he say you had to do that to extend battery life? Maybe I missed it. I do all of that, not for the battery, but because I don't want or need every application using my location data. I turn the brightness down a bit because it's a little too bright most of the time. I could go on and on. I didn't do it for battery life. I do all that on my iPhone 4. I don't have the 5.