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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by jfe
I think it's pretty impressive phone

Once their operating system allows for widgets and shortcuts then they could compare with Android 1.5

Because now folders are cool, since the iPhone can handle them

Also, what up with the "retina" naming, but the gyroscope would be cool, and of course, no one can compare to the App Store with the 200,000+ apps. Good luck using them in a 2GB restricted plan
Retina: Having fairly good vision and being able to see pixel separation on most screens, I am excited about this change/upgrade. Esp interested to see how iPhone 4 up-scales graphics without pixelation.

Just getting started on developing a few apps (not personally but via a developer) the additional api's are an exciting addition. This opens some doors without adding size.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by nmenaker
yeah, is there a reason why they wouldn't use the chips which do 5ghz as well? I know it works a bit more poorly, but since all their current routers have this option wouldn't they want to have it fully compatible?
My guess is including a 2.4ghz only chip in the handset was done to save power, adding more battery life...
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 5:44 pm
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It may be that the antenna system they have would require additional testing and certification for 5 Ghz operation.

Or maybe there was higher licensing costs for 5 Ghz too.

Maybe also they see that most of the 802.11n routers sold are single-band, not dual-band. Certainly the former are cheaper.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 6:25 pm
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I don't want to turn this into an Android VS iPhone debate - but at the speed phone companies are making new phones, Apple is having a harder time than ever keeping up.

The new iPhone display is nice - but do you really think they'll be the only one using it for more than 2 or 3 months?

Gyroscopes? Give it 6 months till others have it. There is no denying that Apple is an innovator, and that others follow, but their relatively slow developement timeline is going to hurt them in the long run.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ScottC
I don't want to turn this into an Android VS iPhone debate - but at the speed phone companies are making new phones, Apple is having a harder time than ever keeping up.

The new iPhone display is nice - but do you really think they'll be the only one using it for more than 2 or 3 months?

Gyroscopes? Give it 6 months till others have it. There is no denying that Apple is an innovator, and that others follow, but their relatively slow developement timeline is going to hurt them in the long run.
And yet they seem to break all estimates for sales.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by ScottC
There is no denying that Apple is an innovator, and that others follow, but their relatively slow developement timeline is going to hurt them in the long run.
Apple is an innovator, yes, but their real strength is marketing. They convince people that a pretty packaging of six-months-ago's technology is cutting edge and unique.

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And yet they seem to break all estimates for sales.
It's amazing what good marketing can do. It's even more amazing that, after three years, I might finally break down and get an iPhone.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by planemechanic
And yet they seem to break all estimates for sales.
Longtime Apple fan (on my 8th mac machine) and proud/happy owner of two iPhones here: no doubt Steve is the leading innovator in the industry. But folks are catching up, especially given that partner (AT&T) has pretty much screwed the 3G network up, 4G is out, and Android is an open system.

Only time will tell and the new iPhone looks really slick! But this is one time I'm not jumping on the band wagon for the new iPhone.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 7:32 pm
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
Apple is an innovator, yes, but their real strength is marketing. They convince people that a pretty packaging of six-months-ago's technology is cutting edge and unique.
In many ways it is - it just doesn't last long. And now so many companies are playing catchup (and Motorola is back in the game), the time their technology leads is getting shorter than ever.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 8:00 pm
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In many ways it is - it just doesn't last long. And now so many companies are playing catchup (and Motorola is back in the game), the time their technology leads is getting shorter than ever.
Yeah. Though I have to admit (and reiterate) that this is the first iPhone I've ever seriously considered.

I'm going to wait until later in the year, when we see what HTC cooks up after having seen the new iPhone's specs. Something like that with Froyo could be...very compelling.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
Yeah. Though I have to admit (and reiterate) that this is the first iPhone I've ever seriously considered.

I'm going to wait until later in the year, when we see what HTC cooks up after having seen the new iPhone's specs. Something like that with Froyo could be...very compelling.
You're seriously going to play the waiting game? You know that there will always be another cool phone/feature/device/whatever just around the corner, don't you? At what point do you buy what you want and decide not to wait? In a year or two or even less there will be something better. There always is.

And it's pointless to note how biased somebody is (not you, gfunkdave), but it should be obvious from his own posts.

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by LIH Prem
You're seriously going to play the waiting game? You know that there will always be another cool phone/feature/device/whatever just around the corner, don't you? At what point do you buy what you want and decide not to wait? In a year or two or even less there will be something better. There always is.
Of course there's always something better. I am not waiting to get "the best". I am waiting because I'm 6 months into a 2 year contract with T-mobile, I currently have no job, and if I'm going to break my T-mo contract it'll be when I'm employed and there's a phone that really grabs my attention.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 9:42 pm
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lol, ok, you're off the hook, Dave. Sounds like you need my $8 per month plan. (no contract, t-mo pre-paid discounted $100 refills, no data, 10 cents per min, 5 cents per sms)

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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 12:24 pm
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Had the discussion with a few friends and all are up in the air about color. What are your thoughts?
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by LIH Prem

And it's pointless to note how biased somebody is (not you, gfunkdave), but it should be obvious from his own posts.
Biased = doesn't drink the Apple koolaid

Stay classy!
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