My Flyertalk showing all threads since 3/1/10
Mar 14, 2010, 7:41 pm
#61
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I'm also not a fan of this change. Perhaps I'm missing something, but in the past it appeared to recognize when I last visited a forum and, next time, only showed threads with new posts since that date/time. Regardless of whether I read them or not.
Now, it seems to show all threads with new posts since I read the thread. So if I never read the thread, it's always bolded.
In the past, if I wasn't interested in a thread, it would stop appearing when posting to it stopped. Now it appears that it will remain as bold forever.
To get back to the old treatment, I have to actively "Mark this Forum Read" every time before exiting.
I'd very, very much like to have the old option back. I prefer not to have to actively look at the title and disregard a thread over and over, forever. Or go into it just to make it go away. Or take an action that I never had to before...
Now, it seems to show all threads with new posts since I read the thread. So if I never read the thread, it's always bolded.
In the past, if I wasn't interested in a thread, it would stop appearing when posting to it stopped. Now it appears that it will remain as bold forever.
To get back to the old treatment, I have to actively "Mark this Forum Read" every time before exiting.
I'd very, very much like to have the old option back. I prefer not to have to actively look at the title and disregard a thread over and over, forever. Or go into it just to make it go away. Or take an action that I never had to before...
Mar 14, 2010, 11:43 pm
#62
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I actually like the change thus far...
All one needs to do is to choose List Subscriptions under the Subscribed Threads area on the left at the MyFlyerTalk area to see all of the read and unread threads subscribed under MyFlyerTalk, listed in the same chronological order as in the old way of viewing MyFlyerTalk. No massive amount of searching should be necessary.
I actually happen to like the change, as I no longer need to read every unread thread under MyFlyerTalk. The unread threads remain unread until I am ready to read them. This means I can log in more often under shorter periods of time because I no longer have to be concerned about missing anything I have not yet read before losing it upon logging out and having to backtrack the next time I log in...
I actually happen to like the change, as I no longer need to read every unread thread under MyFlyerTalk. The unread threads remain unread until I am ready to read them. This means I can log in more often under shorter periods of time because I no longer have to be concerned about missing anything I have not yet read before losing it upon logging out and having to backtrack the next time I log in...
Mar 15, 2010, 2:45 am
#63
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This side effect was not expected by us, and we are sorry for the inconvenience. Had we anticipated this, we would have posted an announcement and looked for ways to mitigate against it before making the change. We did notify the moderation staff that we were going to make the change, but even they were taken by surprise when this unexpected result occurred (IBsteph included, hence the confusion).
It's like Web 2.0 all over again, man.
Mar 15, 2010, 4:41 am
#64
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Mar 15, 2010, 5:48 am
#66
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I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE the new "Forum/Post Read" mis-feature.
I care only about what's been posted since the last time I was on. And I don't want to jump through hoops to tell the forum software that I wasn't interested enough in a thread to open it in the first place.
CHANGE IT BACK.
I've been spending a lot less time on FT as it is. I really don't need another reason to drop off entirely.
I care only about what's been posted since the last time I was on. And I don't want to jump through hoops to tell the forum software that I wasn't interested enough in a thread to open it in the first place.
CHANGE IT BACK.
I've been spending a lot less time on FT as it is. I really don't need another reason to drop off entirely.
Mar 15, 2010, 7:57 am
#67
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I'm also not a fan of this change. Perhaps I'm missing something, but in the past it appeared to recognize when I last visited a forum and, next time, only showed threads with new posts since that date/time. Regardless of whether I read them or not.
Now, it seems to show all threads with new posts since I read the thread. So if I never read the thread, it's always bolded.
In the past, if I wasn't interested in a thread, it would stop appearing when posting to it stopped. Now it appears that it will remain as bold forever.
To get back to the old treatment, I have to actively "Mark this Forum Read" every time before exiting.
I'd very, very much like to have the old option back. I prefer not to have to actively look at the title and disregard a thread over and over, forever. Or go into it just to make it go away. Or take an action that I never had to before.
Now, it seems to show all threads with new posts since I read the thread. So if I never read the thread, it's always bolded.
In the past, if I wasn't interested in a thread, it would stop appearing when posting to it stopped. Now it appears that it will remain as bold forever.
To get back to the old treatment, I have to actively "Mark this Forum Read" every time before exiting.
I'd very, very much like to have the old option back. I prefer not to have to actively look at the title and disregard a thread over and over, forever. Or go into it just to make it go away. Or take an action that I never had to before.
By the way, did I miss the user poll/survey in which it was discovered the need/demand for this "enhancement"?
Mar 15, 2010, 8:04 am
#68
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And I disagree with all the haters up thread. I LOVE the change. I LOVE that when I use a different computer the threads I've already read are marked as such. I LOVE that when I only read half the threads in any particular forum the others are still noted as unread so I can come back to them later. I LOVE that after I read a subscribed htread from the My FT page it disappears rather than hanging out for a couple more hours.
Yes, the behavior is different than it was. But it is a much better approximation of reality in terms of read/unread IMO.
Does it really bother you that a thread on the bottom half of a forum page is bold? Odds are it won't even be displayed next time you're back in that forum since it will have scrolled off the bottom. Who cares that it is flagged as unread? After all, you haven't actually read it. Isn't that more accurate?
Yes, the behavior is different than it was. But it is a much better approximation of reality in terms of read/unread IMO.
Does it really bother you that a thread on the bottom half of a forum page is bold? Odds are it won't even be displayed next time you're back in that forum since it will have scrolled off the bottom. Who cares that it is flagged as unread? After all, you haven't actually read it. Isn't that more accurate?
Mar 15, 2010, 8:41 am
#70
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Mar 15, 2010, 5:30 pm
#71
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thanks for the update but my question is.....
if you "roll back", won't that create the problem "in reverse"? it seems to be working now as i always "mark all forums read" prior to signing out so in my several log-ins since this morning, things seem to be back to normal (but then again, it's raining out and i may be having a bald moment and missing something
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if you "roll back", won't that create the problem "in reverse"? it seems to be working now as i always "mark all forums read" prior to signing out so in my several log-ins since this morning, things seem to be back to normal (but then again, it's raining out and i may be having a bald moment and missing something
)The old method assumed you read a thread, even when you didn't. If you visited any forum on FT, at some unknown time later after no activity, all the threads that had new posts would show up as read, even if you didn't read them. Some people grew to like that behavior.
I suspect the new behavior is that threads that haven't been read remain unread, no matter what, unless you mark the forum as read. (That button, by the way, is under the Forum Tools button.).
Anyway, that's my guess.
-David
I suspect the new behavior is that threads that haven't been read remain unread, no matter what, unless you mark the forum as read. (That button, by the way, is under the Forum Tools button.).
Anyway, that's my guess.
-David
If you have read a thread, it will be marked as read. If you haven't read it, it will me marked as unread. Previously, there was no mechanism for this; so the forum made assumptions based on your activity. The problem with that is if you show up to the forum and read one thread, ALL threads are marked as unread, regardless of if you've actually read them or not.
Mar 15, 2010, 6:31 pm
#72
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Big problem/annoyance (at least to me): I had to clear cookies/caches for another problem. When I opened FT and signed in again, the "mark forums read" was still gone, so I had to go back to the front page and click it again. AGGHHH. This is NOT an improvement.
Last edited by linsj; Mar 16, 2010 at 3:28 am
Mar 15, 2010, 8:32 pm
#73
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Let’s go one step further for another benefit which I tested.
I purposely read one page of a multiple-page subscribed thread but not the last page. The thread picks up on the page where I left off the next time I log onto FlyerTalk and is still marked as unread.
In other words, unless you click on the last page of a multiple-page subscribed thread, that thread will still appear in bold type under MyFlyerTalk.
I am sold. I hope this change remains intact.
I purposely read one page of a multiple-page subscribed thread but not the last page. The thread picks up on the page where I left off the next time I log onto FlyerTalk and is still marked as unread.
In other words, unless you click on the last page of a multiple-page subscribed thread, that thread will still appear in bold type under MyFlyerTalk.
I am sold. I hope this change remains intact.
Mar 16, 2010, 6:21 am
#74
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Well, as a parent, I can tell you that I've been wrong once or twice over the years. I admit when I'm wrong. This change has hit a nerve with a majority of posters. Something for you to think about.
Grassroots campaign anyone (a la Delta)?
Mar 16, 2010, 12:38 pm
#75
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I like the change. I haven't logged in for over a week and didn't do so because I didn't want to spend lots of time catching up with all my subscribed threads in MyFlyertalk.
This is great for those of us who only want to check in for a couple of items.
This is great for those of us who only want to check in for a couple of items.