Aug 25, 2017, 7:19 am
Last edit by: Oxon Flyer
It can take up to 7 business days from the day you qualified for your Lifetime Platinum status to be picked up by the system.
Starwood / Marriott merger
Q : What will happen to my Lifetime Status when the programs merge together in the future?
A : Rest assured we will always recognize your Lifetime Status, whether it is today in your earned program or in the future with a new, combined program.
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#what-will-happen-to-my-lifetime-status-when-the-programs-merge-together-in-the-future
Starwood / Marriott merger
Q : What will happen to my Lifetime Status when the programs merge together in the future?
A : Rest assured we will always recognize your Lifetime Status, whether it is today in your earned program or in the future with a new, combined program.
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#what-will-happen-to-my-lifetime-status-when-the-programs-merge-together-in-the-future
Discussion: SPG Lifetime™ Gold and SPG Lifetime™ Platinum status
Apr 17, 2018, 11:18 am
#1846
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ellicott City, MD USA
Programs: SPG Plat and that is that!
Posts: 253
I appreciate the angst in this thread regarding LTPP versus LTP. I appreciate if someone can help me with my slightly less-important question.
Does anyone know a way to find out your history of status with Marriott? I have 8 years PLAT with SPG - each year I work hard to make sure I get to PLAT by often picking an SPG stay even though not most convenient. What I believe is if I have 2 years of Marriott PLAT and 600 total nights across the two historically, then on Aug 1 I will map to Lifetime Plat. I can see the night counts online for both Marriott & SPG, but since SPG is primary I really have no idea what status I've had over the years with Marriott.
How do I find that out? Thank you!
Does anyone know a way to find out your history of status with Marriott? I have 8 years PLAT with SPG - each year I work hard to make sure I get to PLAT by often picking an SPG stay even though not most convenient. What I believe is if I have 2 years of Marriott PLAT and 600 total nights across the two historically, then on Aug 1 I will map to Lifetime Plat. I can see the night counts online for both Marriott & SPG, but since SPG is primary I really have no idea what status I've had over the years with Marriott.
How do I find that out? Thank you!
Apr 17, 2018, 11:21 am
#1847
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
The problem is highlighted in the post below yours. Will they be able to calculate Lifetime Marriott points for Starwood members?
It is easy enough to say we must have 750+ nights, but what about the spend under current Marriott rules?
I only have 200000 Lifetime Marriott points but if you take my lifetime Starwood points and multiply by 3 I probably have 20 Million!
Apr 17, 2018, 11:30 am
#1848
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ellicott City, MD USA
Programs: SPG Plat and that is that!
Posts: 253
And it is a little quirk ... but would 2 years of Marriott Elite Gold combine with 8 years SPG Platinum to make 10 years of Platinum Elite combined? Since MR Elite Gold Maps to the new MR Elite Platinum, that would make sense but ... ?
Apr 17, 2018, 11:48 am
#1849
Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: Bonvoy Amb; AA EXP
Posts: 1,136
Yes, I suppose I'm just under the threshold for being monumentally upset by the unfair treatment of the SPG side for my own account, though I'm sufficiently outraged that the link to the new lifetime tiers does not include all of the information. I would further the outrage by stating that Marriott has far more budget hotels than does SPG, so a night isn't just a night when looking at both programs.
SPG: I'm at 13 years platinum, 4+MM points (converted to MR), and 615 nights (early in my Plat years, I did it all through stays). I don't know how many Marriott nights I have, but it's probably around 100 or so.
SPG: I'm at 13 years platinum, 4+MM points (converted to MR), and 615 nights (early in my Plat years, I did it all through stays). I don't know how many Marriott nights I have, but it's probably around 100 or so.
Apr 17, 2018, 11:50 am
#1850
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
Programs: AA EXP - 3.7MM, Bonv LIFETIME Titan, HH Dmd, Hyatt Glob., Priority Clb Dmd, Ntnl Exec El., Sixt PLT
Posts: 1,680
i agree....even if i don't spend a single night at spg/marriott, as lifetime plat with spg i'm guaranteed benefits that come with spending 50 nights (minus the suite nights)....i would have gone for 75 nights if it came with the your24 benefit or even for 100 nights if the spend requirement was not there but now i don't see much benefit coming from hitting either one of those targets....i never thought i would be saying this but hilton is going to start getting the majority (if not all) of my business now....
Apr 17, 2018, 12:01 pm
#1851
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SE USA
Programs: DL DM/MM , IHG Plat, MR Titanium, HH Gold, EK Frequent Kettle, UA Silver, AA Hater
Posts: 2,020
I appreciate the angst in this thread regarding LTPP versus LTP. I appreciate if someone can help me with my slightly less-important question.
Does anyone know a way to find out your history of status with Marriott? I have 8 years PLAT with SPG - each year I work hard to make sure I get to PLAT by often picking an SPG stay even though not most convenient. What I believe is if I have 2 years of Marriott PLAT and 600 total nights across the two historically, then on Aug 1 I will map to Lifetime Plat. I can see the night counts online for both Marriott & SPG, but since SPG is primary I really have no idea what status I've had over the years with Marriott.
How do I find that out? Thank you!
Does anyone know a way to find out your history of status with Marriott? I have 8 years PLAT with SPG - each year I work hard to make sure I get to PLAT by often picking an SPG stay even though not most convenient. What I believe is if I have 2 years of Marriott PLAT and 600 total nights across the two historically, then on Aug 1 I will map to Lifetime Plat. I can see the night counts online for both Marriott & SPG, but since SPG is primary I really have no idea what status I've had over the years with Marriott.
How do I find that out? Thank you!
2 minutes to get an answer from SPG.
30 minutes to get incorrect info from MR. They could not tell me my status before 2015.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:17 pm
#1852
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 946
Count me as another SPG LTP irritated by this decision to block legacy SPG members from being grandfathered as LTPPE. If the criteria were set out and I do not meet them, I could live with that but not even creating an opportunity for some SPG members leaves a bad taste.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:24 pm
#1853
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
The mapping of SPG LTP to LT Plat Elite and MR LTP to LT Plat Premier Elite is very clear. What is not clear is whether they will combine the SPG and MR lifetime nights and points on July 31 and then on Aug. 1 promote SPG LTP to MR LTP if the combined accounts have over 750 nights and 2MM MR points for the purpose of grandfathering to LT Plat Premier Elite.
It is also not clear if the new program has a way for members to achieve LT Plat Premier Elite after the original launch and MR LTP are grandfathered, since the requirements are not stated.
I have 635 LT SPG nights, and 339 LT MR nights and 987K LT MR points, but I don't know what's my LT SPG points. I called Plat line and had to explain a couple times before the rep finally understood exactly what I needed, so I expect to receive an email on my LT SPG points in a week.
It is also not clear if the new program has a way for members to achieve LT Plat Premier Elite after the original launch and MR LTP are grandfathered, since the requirements are not stated.
I have 635 LT SPG nights, and 339 LT MR nights and 987K LT MR points, but I don't know what's my LT SPG points. I called Plat line and had to explain a couple times before the rep finally understood exactly what I needed, so I expect to receive an email on my LT SPG points in a week.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:26 pm
#1854
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Austin, TX and Aspen, CO
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Lifetime Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 225
Only 3 Years to Go to Lifetime Platinum, ummm?
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Last edited by rgrunnah; Apr 17, 2018 at 12:51 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 12:34 pm
#1855
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego, CA/Boston, MA
Programs: United Lifetime Plat 2 million, Starwood Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold 75k
Posts: 143
The mapping of SPG LTP to LT Plat Elite and MR LTP to LT Plat Premier Elite is very clear. What is not clear is whether they will combine the SPG and MR lifetime nights and points on July 31 and then on Aug. 1 promote SPG LTP to MR LTP if the combined accounts have over 750 nights and 2MM MR points for the purpose of grandfathering to LT Plat Premier Elite.
Last edited by sfosyd; Apr 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 1:07 pm
#1856
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 77
Hi Folks,
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Thank you for your input.
Apr 17, 2018, 1:11 pm
#1857
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: On the road, 24/7/365
Posts: 3,467
Unfortunately, it seems very clear to me. The combined balances August 1st will only count towards the new program and not anything legacy. There is no path at all for SPG members to get to Lifetime Plat Premier Elite no matter how loyal they have been even if they have met the same requirements as Marriott members (or more). Additionally, even Marriott members cannot use any any SPG stays to get to LT Plat Premier Elite, it is legacy Marriott only. Fairfield Inn stays count more than St. Regis stays. Totally and completely unfair and a big middle finger to all SPG members and properties.
When the merger was announced, I pulled back on Starwood stays - from 90 nights to maybe 15 or 20 - waiting to see where things would settle. As a Lifetime Platinum with about 1,100 nights, well, I needn't say more.
It would be a real shame if the Lurker program (and the people involved) are not preserved. SPG really stood out in my mind for this.
Last edited by 365RoadWarrior; Apr 17, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 1:12 pm
#1858
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Apr 17, 2018, 1:29 pm
#1859
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego, CA/Boston, MA
Programs: United Lifetime Plat 2 million, Starwood Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold 75k
Posts: 143
You would then have to meet the requirements for Lifetime Plat under the new program which is 10 years of being Platinum and 750 nights. If at any year you reached platinum during your SPG years those years would count toward the 10 and of course your 500 nights would count towards the 750. Points do not matter at all.
Can someone clarify?
Last edited by sfosyd; Apr 17, 2018 at 1:48 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 1:36 pm
#1860
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
If this is the case, which I don't think it is, it means that some SPG Plats will have a path to lifetime PP because their SPG nights and points would transfer to legacy Marriott allowing them to be grandfathered in through the legacy platinum requirements. According to the web site, Lifetime SPG Gold equals Lifetime Gold in the new program not lifetime Marriott Gold which equals lifetime Plat.
I believe that in the case you describe above, you will be lifetime Gold in the new program and not lifetime Plat.
Can someone clarify?
I believe that in the case you describe above, you will be lifetime Gold in the new program and not lifetime Plat.
Can someone clarify?