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Old Jan 15, 2020, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112
They also have massive financial problems.
I just booked a couple super cheap business class seats with them. Couldn't believe the prices.
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian
Or a bunch of D-checks and bringing planes out of the desert. Every day the MAX is grounded, that very expensive option gets less expensive by a bit.
What planes? Because there are none to bring back.
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by 737MAX8
What planes? Because there are none to bring back.
757s? 737-500s? 737-300s? Apparently WN put 67 733s in storage in Victorville in October 2017.

At what point does the loss of all MAXes begin to impact the ability to grow the company?

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Old Jan 16, 2020, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by 737MAX8
What planes? Because there are none to bring back.
According to an inventory I found there are several hundred 737 NGs in storage although it didn't say what condition they were in.
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112
According to an inventory I found there are several hundred 737 NGs in storage although it didn't say what condition they were in.
Those are the 737 NFGs.
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by nsx
Those are the 737 NFGs.
Just be sure to tell the FA if you hear a cracking sound under the exit row.
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian

At what point does the loss of all MAXes begin to impact the ability to grow the company?
Months ago?
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Old Jan 16, 2020, 8:11 pm
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Transportation secretary’s expert panel defends FAA system that approved deadly 737 Max jets


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...1a4_story.html
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 8:35 am
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Boeing stops making 737MAX officially

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/busin...alt/index.html
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 11:49 am
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https://https://cnb.cx/2RBPQqi

@CNBC: Boeing doesn't expect regulators to sign off on 737 Max until June or July https://cnb.cx/2RBPQqi
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 1:18 pm
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So it looks like 2021 would be the earliest it will fly given that SIM training will also be required and those won't even be able to be in place until there is a clear and approved fix in place. This will continue to drag out for a long time. Lots more steps to go and no clear end in sight.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 4:17 pm
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I predict no more manufacturing for 737 MAX this year and maybe 50% never ever. A cheap software fix plus simulator training just isn't going to fly.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
I predict no more manufacturing for 737 MAX this year and maybe 50% never ever. A cheap software fix plus simulator training just isn't going to fly.
It should be interesting to see how this plays out. As I've said before, Boeing simply has too much invested in the MAX at this point. I suspect a software fix plus hardware adjustments (dual angle-of-attack sensors on all MAX aircraft, along with the disagree light in all cockpits at a minimum) plus simulator training is all it will take for these planes to fly. Whether or not that will be enough to convince the public that they're safe remains to be seen. But ultimately that question is less important than whether or not this is enough to convince carriers to continue buying them. I suspect that this, combined with significant discounts and pent-up need for aircraft, will keep the MAX flying for years. Or at least until an alternative aircraft is available.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 5:09 pm
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Great news! FAA says it will handle all approvals for new 737-MAX.

Boeing will resuming deliveries the 737-MAX aircraft to the airlines in December. They will put back to service in January.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...jets/40714421/
Which January? 2021 or 2022? LOL
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ursine1
I suspect that this, combined with significant discounts and pent-up need for aircraft, will keep the MAX flying for years.
Maybe, although 1 more future 737 MAX crash will likely mean the end of the MAX (and maybe the end of Boeing as well).
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