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link to QR Travel Alerts)[/quote]

For further information on AA awards see:

HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver Award Availability - Help, Assistance & Discussion

and

AA oneworld and Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015 on)

N.B. Upgrades on QR book into fares not granted EQD/EQM by AA. If you're upgraded on QR, be prepared for pushback from some AA agents. You may have to submit a formal request with accompanying documentation reflecting you purchased an eligible fare class.

If you experience difficulties with the AA reservations system, you may be able to book by calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (South African agency Mindpearl) - as they can often see the inventory more reliably, and you can book.

Links:

Link to AA.com Qatar miles earning etc.

AA miles earning on QR changed 1 May 2016 (Link):

Minimum miles guarantee applies.

Checking QR award availability:

You cannot check QR availability on aa.com. You must check QR availability elsewhere, and then call AA on the phone to book the award. (There is no booking fee.)

You can check QR availability on AA's site, BA's site, QF's site, www.awardnexus.com (which pulls from BA and/or QF), or the KVS tool. (A certain number of searches are free to FlyerTalk members at AwardNexus; click the "more signup options" link under the green Purchase button to sign up as a FlyerTalk member.)

When checking QR award availability, you have to check each segment individually. Both BA and QF can generate very misleading information if you try to check QR award availability all the way through [xxx-(DOH)-yyy] in one step. Be aware AA can only book 330 days out, even if you see availability farther out.

Awards on QR may not be visible to AA agents if a multi-segment itinerary is requested; broken into individual segments will generally reveal availability, however.

As well, AA Australia or New Zealand (actually MindPearl in Fiji) can often see and book AA awards on QR US-based ones might not be able to.

From danger: For AA awards, Economy is X, Business is U, First is Z. NOTE: Those with Z (First) awards may see "Z (Business Class)" shown on the QR website; this is a known glitch.

As well, QR sells intra gulf two class service as First and Economy, as AA does domestically. This can cause some issues with a Business flight including a Gulf "First" flight potentially incurring an F award redemption.

From hotelmotel: "Got my QR PNR from AA. Popped over to QR and selected seats." (AAdvantage award.)

Days of the week: To/from the USA, especially in business class, Qatar often only offers awards seats for Mon..Thu departures, not Fri..Sun departures. So makes sure you check different parts of the week, and not just always weekends (if you're not finding anything on weekends).

NOTE: At DOH / Doha Hamad International Airport, lounges as follows:

Qatar Airways Al Safwa Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying First Class on Qatar or oneworld airlines (not oneworld Emeralds flying other lower classes of service)

Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying Business Class on Qatar or oneworld (not oneworld Sapphire flying lower classes of service)

Oryx Lounge: Third party lounge for qualifying passengers on BA, CX, RJ, UL.

Qatar Airways HIA First Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First Class ticketed customers, Emerald members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.

Qatar Airways HIA Business Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First and Business Class ticketed customers, Emerald and Sapphire members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.

Arrivals Lounges (not oneworld lounges): only accessible to those arriving in First or Business Class on Qatar Airways (not oneworld Sapphire flying other oneworld airlines or other classes of service)

See FT: QR Lounges at HIA

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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
To maximize the experience, I'd suggest trying to book the longest flights. In my view (feel free to disagree), LHR-M.E. is too short to enjoy the experience.

My suggestion would be EY out of LAX, since EY can be booked without error. They have a nice J product, and it's a 16-hour flight. If you have the miles, try for an EY F flight out of JFK; it's only 12 hours, but you get an Apartment, which is totally awesome. If you can manage to book QR out of LAX, that would be good, but no chance of Q-suite by then.
Thanks. EY J on the 777 just doesn't look as nice as Qatar's. Plus EY doesn't fly to CPT or SEZ, so would just be more of a pain. Wish it would have worked, would have saved a ton of miles (MR -> ANA for EY vs AA for QR).
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 8:56 pm
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The reason I mentioned AS is that you can use AS on an AA award, with it remaining one award. Since AS generally has better award availability than AA, it's worth hunting for possibilities. I suggest spending time with EF and/or aa.com searching for any possible connection or route, especially if it's far enough out that schedule changes are likely.
Thanks! I am only a lowly AA Gold, so would be paying for any changes. But a schedule change could open up possibilities to add the leg for free.

In retrospect, I should have pushed harder on getting the agent to try to manually push through space on JKF-DFW (was successful on a South America award a few months ago getting MIA-DFW pushed through when no space was showing).
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I have an option of DOH-KWI(QR)-AUH(EY) as a replacement. But knowing luggage will not be checked through, would 2hrs be enough to do so manually? Perhaps an Etihad transit desk could assist?
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 10:57 pm
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When people with AAward bookings require rerouting QR flights, and have it done directly with QR, if the resulting reroute includes nonAA partnered airlines, how does the new itinerary appear on AA's website?
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
I have an option of DOH-KWI(QR)-AUH(EY) as a replacement. But knowing luggage will not be checked through, would 2hrs be enough to do so manually? Perhaps an Etihad transit desk could assist?
As a frequent traveler to KWI, I would hesitate to do this. KWI is not efficient, and you would need to get a visa to enter the country since baggage claim is after immigration. Even if you arrange a visa ahead of time or pay the visa escort service to facilitate you, baggage takes a signifcant time to come out. In a best case scenario, you'd probably have your bag 45 minutes after landing. A better estimate is probably an hour, and if you don't have a visa facilitator and it's a busy time of night, two or more hours would be normal.

Once you get your bag, it's pretty quick . Go upstairs, get to the etihad desk, and then get back through security. EY is a quick Check In in Kuwait. If your flying business, security would be quick. Probably 20-30 minutes from getting your bag to being back at the gate .

if everything works well, you can do it. But I wouldn't expect things to work that smoothly at KWI.

good luck.
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 3:58 pm
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Thanks Flagg.
Do you have experience with MCT? From your post it seems anything would be better.
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
I have an option of DOH-KWI(QR)-AUH(EY) as a replacement. But knowing luggage will not be checked through, would 2hrs be enough to do so manually? Perhaps an Etihad transit desk could assist?
If this is being rebooked by the airline due to the current issues as a through booking, why would the bags not be checked through?
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
If this is being rebooked by the airline due to the current issues as a through booking, why would the bags not be checked through?
The option is not offered by the airline.
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by flyfaraway
Thanks! I am only a lowly AA Gold, so would be paying for any changes. But a schedule change could open up possibilities to add the leg for free.

In retrospect, I should have pushed harder on getting the agent to try to manually push through space on JKF-DFW (was successful on a South America award a few months ago getting MIA-DFW pushed through when no space was showing).
Yeah, the fee for changes sucks. Still, if it's far enough out, there's a good chance of schedule changes.

Congratulations on getting RM to release a seat on MIA-DFW. I've had zero success last year and this on anything, even puddle-jumper flights that were wide open. I tried for JFK-DFW a lot to make an EY award work, but given how few flights there are JFK-DFW (I was surprised), that wasn't going to happen. Instead I booked AS out of EWR, and changed when space opened up on AA JFK-LAX.
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
Thanks Flagg.
Do you have experience with MCT? From your post it seems anything would be better.

i have never connected in KWI. Personally, if I were arriving between 8pm and 12am, I'd allow three hours and ensure I had arranged the visa meet and greet service. If it was another time of day, I would still have three hours but you can do the visa yourself (assuming you are a US citizen). You will save yourself 10KWD doing it yourself.
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Old Aug 5, 2017 | 5:01 am
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Thanks Flagg.
Do you have experience with MCT? From your post it seems anything would be better.
Here is the Oman transit policy: Would connecting from QR/EY be possible? Obviously its different flights.


"Visitors from any country who hold onward tickets may transit through Oman without a visa for up to 6 hours if proceeding by the same flight. "
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Old Aug 5, 2017 | 10:39 am
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US to SE Asia on Qatar

Hey all, have just begun my first deep dive into booking a US to SE Asia award trip on QR. We're getting married next May in St. Martin and are hard at work trying to figure out an awesome place for a honeymoon, while leveraging the ~400K miles we have between us. Ideally, our honeymoon takes off from MIA since we'd likely be connecting there coming back from St. Martin, hence why I'm looking at QR. I've done a bit of research and read this forum some.

Right now, I'm seeing good availability on ba.com for MIA-DOH-CGK or SGN or KUL. I made one quick call to AA US to confirm how many miles it would cost, and she said that MIA-DOH-MLE (initially what I was looking at) was not a possible routing on QR with AA miles.

2 questions off the bat.

1) MIA-DOH-XXX (SE Asia destination) in biz will cost 70K AA miles + $92. Is that
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2) Booking through AA US on the phone is hit or miss, or is it impossible? Related, booking through AA AU/NZ phone is still the option that has the best chance?
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As I continue to do more research, I'm thinking an easier and also excellent way to do this is to just book an award flight on CX from BOS or JFK to HKG (we live in Boston so could just go home from St. Martin for a day). 1st class on CX from BOS/JFK to HKG looks like it would be awesome, even business would still be excellent. And then we just book paid flights from HKG to KUL for a very low price. My initial research here makes it seem like this option will be much easier to find/book than the initial QR route/option I was thinking, as outlined above.

Thoughts?
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Old Aug 5, 2017 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude

1) MIA-DOH-XXX (SE Asia destination) in biz will cost 70K AA miles + $92. Is that
accurate?
No , it will be 70,000 for Miami-Doha plus 40,000 for Doha to Asia 2, giving a total of 110,000

Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude
2) Booking through AA US on the phone is hit or miss, or is it impossible? Related, booking through AA AU/NZ phone is still the option that has the best chance?
Really just need to phone and see what you can get ; phoning all 3 doesnt take long if needed


Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude
As I continue to do more research, I'm thinking an easier and also excellent way to do this is to just book an award flight on CX from BOS or JFK to HKG (we live in Boston so could just go home from St. Martin for a day). 1st class on CX from BOS/JFK to HKG looks like it would be awesome, even business would still be excellent. And then we just book paid flights from HKG to KUL for a very low price. My initial research here makes it seem like this option will be much easier to find/book than the initial QR route/option I was thinking, as outlined above.
Not sure whether it is easier, but it will be cheaper; going on CX from USA-Asia 2 can be done for 70,000 points
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
No , it will be 70,000 for Miami-Doha plus 40,000 for Doha to Asia 2, giving a total of 110,000



Really just need to phone and see what you can get ; phoning all 3 doesnt take long if needed




Not sure whether it is easier, but it will be cheaper; going on CX from USA-Asia 2 can be done for 70,000 points
Thanks! 70K CX USA-Asia 2 is business, right? It's 110K in first?
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