The Business/First ticket...without lounge access
#136




Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
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FRA you get access to the Priority Lounge, its a 3rd party lounge.
You may also get into the JAL lounge.
At FCO its the Prima Vista 3rd party lounge, you may also get access to the ba lounge.
I say may, you probably will but if their own flights are leaving there may be capacity issues and their own pax will get priority.
Cmb qatar use the Araliya lounge so for sure access to that. You may also have access to a Sri lankan lounge.
Sorry but i am do not know if you need vouchers for the 3rd party lounges QR use.
#137


Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 104
None of these airports have a Qatar paid business class only lounge.
FRA you get access to the Priority Lounge, its a 3rd party lounge.
You may also get into the JAL lounge.
At FCO its the Prima Vista 3rd party lounge, you may also get access to the ba lounge.
I say may, you probably will but if their own flights are leaving there may be capacity issues and their own pax will get priority.
Cmb qatar use the Araliya lounge so for sure access to that. You may also have access to a Sri lankan lounge.
Sorry but i am do not know if you need vouchers for the 3rd party lounges QR use.
FRA you get access to the Priority Lounge, its a 3rd party lounge.
You may also get into the JAL lounge.
At FCO its the Prima Vista 3rd party lounge, you may also get access to the ba lounge.
I say may, you probably will but if their own flights are leaving there may be capacity issues and their own pax will get priority.
Cmb qatar use the Araliya lounge so for sure access to that. You may also have access to a Sri lankan lounge.
Sorry but i am do not know if you need vouchers for the 3rd party lounges QR use.
#138

Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BA Gold, SK *G
Posts: 52
None of these airports have a Qatar paid business class only lounge.
FRA you get access to the Priority Lounge, its a 3rd party lounge.
You may also get into the JAL lounge.
At FCO its the Prima Vista 3rd party lounge, you may also get access to the ba lounge.
I say may, you probably will but if their own flights are leaving there may be capacity issues and their own pax will get priority.
Cmb qatar use the Araliya lounge so for sure access to that. You may also have access to a Sri lankan lounge.
Sorry but i am do not know if you need vouchers for the 3rd party lounges QR use.
FRA you get access to the Priority Lounge, its a 3rd party lounge.
You may also get into the JAL lounge.
At FCO its the Prima Vista 3rd party lounge, you may also get access to the ba lounge.
I say may, you probably will but if their own flights are leaving there may be capacity issues and their own pax will get priority.
Cmb qatar use the Araliya lounge so for sure access to that. You may also have access to a Sri lankan lounge.
Sorry but i am do not know if you need vouchers for the 3rd party lounges QR use.
#139
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 1
Business Miles Award/lounge?
I am traveling on a miles ticket, Business class, from Seattle transiting thru Doha to Delhi - I have submitted a query to QA if I have Business class lounge access with a miles ticket - no response. It appears I do on website but not exactly clear. I appreciate any input. Thanks.
#140




Join Date: Feb 2022
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I am traveling on a miles ticket, Business class, from Seattle transiting thru Doha to Delhi - I have submitted a query to QA if I have Business class lounge access with a miles ticket - no response. It appears I do on website but not exactly clear. I appreciate any input. Thanks.
#141
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I am traveling on a miles ticket, Business class, from Seattle transiting thru Doha to Delhi - I have submitted a query to QA if I have Business class lounge access with a miles ticket - no response. It appears I do on website but not exactly clear. I appreciate any input. Thanks.
#142



Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Beach, CA
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I think I'm still having trouble interpreting the policy.
I'm flying SFO-DOH-CAI and in reverse on the return.
My SFO-DOH appears to be a P fare and the DOH-CAI legs are in F.
I'm also OWE.
What are my lounge options when transiting DOH?
I'm flying SFO-DOH-CAI and in reverse on the return.
My SFO-DOH appears to be a P fare and the DOH-CAI legs are in F.
I'm also OWE.
What are my lounge options when transiting DOH?
#143



Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami
Posts: 323
Qatar does not offer a business class product on many middle eastern sectors including Cairo. Instead it labels its business class as F which is what you have encountered. Chances are that your underlying ticket is at the P "lite" fare. As such you will not have access to AS first class lounge. Your status which might have overridden this if it were from QR, appears to be from AA. As such your guaranteed options would be the platinum lounge or the gold and platinum lounge by gate C14. You can of course try AS.
#145
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I would try AS outbound coming from SFO. Ive never been denied even on lite fare when connecting onward to CAI (im here right now). However on lite fares on return, it depends on the agent. There's one I know who will absolutely refuse it. The others normally if you hand over the CAI-DOH BP will simply scan, stamp, and on you go. Technically no access should be given as it is a through P fare that simply books into F (There's no J on intra-ME flights) on DOH-CAI and v.v.
#146


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#148


Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 86
Hi everyone,
I'm adding my experience to this thread having just returned from a tier point run taking in Helsinki, London, Doha and Abu Dhabi. I wish I had read this thread before I booked! I am BA Gold (BA Silver at the time of travel) and only that saved me from having no lounge to go to, despite being on a business class ticket.
Because of my relatively complex itinerary I booked through Propeller Travel, feeding them output from ITA Matrix. I requested they book the cheapest business class fare, not knowing the restrictions being discussed here! (side note: Propeller Travel offer an absolutely brilliant service - I will certainly be using them again to book complex itineraries).
On Saturday 25th May I flew from Helsinki to Heathrow. I arrived at T3 and bussed over to T4 airside. Once through security I was called over to a Qatar desk and received the first bit of bad news - I was on a Business Lite fare, and therefore I couldn't use the premium lounge at T4. I was also told (incorrectly I later found out) that because I was on a First class ticket on my onward to Abu Dhabi, that I'd be able to use the Al Safwa lounge at Doha.
Because I had 4+ hours, and because I had used it before, I decided to spend the 80 to access the premium lounge at Heathrow, rather than use the frequent flyer lounge.
On arrival at Doha, I proudly produced my F ticket at the Al Safwa lounge, looking forward to four hours there. I received the same news - I was on a Business Lite fare, so I couldn't use it. I asked if I could pay to use Al Safwa and was told 'no' (is this correct?) and was (also incorrectly) directed to the Al Mourjan lounge. At the Al Mourjan lounge, I was directed to the 'Gold and Platinum' lounge at the north end of the airport (near gate C52 if I remember rightly), given that by connection to AUH was flying out from that end. That lounge was actually pretty decent, with nice showers, plenty of seating on an open and airy balcony above the terminal, and good food ordered from a menu.
Same story on the return obviously. My DOH to LHR flight was departing from gate A1 so I was directed to the Gold lounge there. That was pretty awful - low ceilings, small, no food cooked to order - so I promptly departed and went to the Gold and Platinum lounge at the north end of the terminal.
I'm adding my experience to this thread having just returned from a tier point run taking in Helsinki, London, Doha and Abu Dhabi. I wish I had read this thread before I booked! I am BA Gold (BA Silver at the time of travel) and only that saved me from having no lounge to go to, despite being on a business class ticket.
Because of my relatively complex itinerary I booked through Propeller Travel, feeding them output from ITA Matrix. I requested they book the cheapest business class fare, not knowing the restrictions being discussed here! (side note: Propeller Travel offer an absolutely brilliant service - I will certainly be using them again to book complex itineraries).
On Saturday 25th May I flew from Helsinki to Heathrow. I arrived at T3 and bussed over to T4 airside. Once through security I was called over to a Qatar desk and received the first bit of bad news - I was on a Business Lite fare, and therefore I couldn't use the premium lounge at T4. I was also told (incorrectly I later found out) that because I was on a First class ticket on my onward to Abu Dhabi, that I'd be able to use the Al Safwa lounge at Doha.
Because I had 4+ hours, and because I had used it before, I decided to spend the 80 to access the premium lounge at Heathrow, rather than use the frequent flyer lounge.
On arrival at Doha, I proudly produced my F ticket at the Al Safwa lounge, looking forward to four hours there. I received the same news - I was on a Business Lite fare, so I couldn't use it. I asked if I could pay to use Al Safwa and was told 'no' (is this correct?) and was (also incorrectly) directed to the Al Mourjan lounge. At the Al Mourjan lounge, I was directed to the 'Gold and Platinum' lounge at the north end of the airport (near gate C52 if I remember rightly), given that by connection to AUH was flying out from that end. That lounge was actually pretty decent, with nice showers, plenty of seating on an open and airy balcony above the terminal, and good food ordered from a menu.
Same story on the return obviously. My DOH to LHR flight was departing from gate A1 so I was directed to the Gold lounge there. That was pretty awful - low ceilings, small, no food cooked to order - so I promptly departed and went to the Gold and Platinum lounge at the north end of the terminal.
#149



Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Berlin
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they have the same Menu via QR code as the Garden Plat/Gold Lounge. yes food cooked to order. (Beside, I personally like the Tarmac view from there)
#150




Join Date: Mar 2023
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