The Business/First ticket...without lounge access
Nov 3, 2023 | 2:01 am
#121
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Transiting in Doha on a biz class ticket bought via our corp travel portal and denied access. I was not aware and no info popped up anywhere. Can use the ow lounges but obviously not the same.
BA tier points and Avios do not post automatically and require manual intervention. No fast track when in economy on the outbound and using QR web check in with a BA Gold #. And on my flight just now from HKG to DOH they had run out of champagne in business right after take off. The airport is a zoo and every time I seem to be getting a bus gate. QR was nice for a while but for me theyve lost it.
BA tier points and Avios do not post automatically and require manual intervention. No fast track when in economy on the outbound and using QR web check in with a BA Gold #. And on my flight just now from HKG to DOH they had run out of champagne in business right after take off. The airport is a zoo and every time I seem to be getting a bus gate. QR was nice for a while but for me theyve lost it.
I have never had a problem getting QR points credit to BA. Depending when your flight was, BAs switch of avios to revenue appears to have caused some issues. I suspect the TP not posting is a BA issue rather than QR.
Sorry your corp travel agent booked a cheap ticket.
Nov 18, 2023 | 10:30 am
#122
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Reading the comments here my brain starts to release smoke.
Is my conclusion correct: On a Light (P) ticket and QR Plat, I can go to any Oneworld Lounge at outstations AND to Al Safwa in DOH ?
Is my conclusion correct: On a Light (P) ticket and QR Plat, I can go to any Oneworld Lounge at outstations AND to Al Safwa in DOH ?
Nov 19, 2023 | 2:35 am
#123
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Yes, youre correct. Except for the Soho Lounge at JFK and the Concorde room at LHR, youd have access to pretty much any OW lounge, and Al Safwa (when it reopens) on a P fare ticket as a plat.
Nov 19, 2023 | 9:13 pm
#124
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Nov 19, 2023 | 11:27 pm
#125
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Jan 7, 2024 | 4:33 am
#126
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Jan 7, 2024 | 4:52 am
#127
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With a (P) ticket you get the relevant OneWorld lounge access according to your current status, but you are not entitled to enter any lounges reserved exclusively for QR business class pasengers. So in the event that QR send J pax who have lounge access included in their ticket to one lounge, and status pax in any cabin to another, you will be invited to visit the status lounge. This applies where QR.operate their own premium.lounges as well as at outstations where they use separate facilities for each. So no, status does not override (P) in that respect
Jan 7, 2024 | 5:08 am
#128
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With a (P) ticket you get the relevant OneWorld lounge access according to your current status, but you are not entitled to enter any lounges reserved exclusively for QR business class pasengers. So in the event that QR send J pax who have lounge access included in their ticket to one lounge, and status pax in any cabin to another, you will be invited to visit the status lounge. This applies where QR.operate their own premium.lounges as well as at outstations where they use separate facilities for each. So no, status does not override (P) in that respect
Jan 7, 2024 | 5:29 am
#129
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Super helpful - thanks. Sounds like its best then to look for general OneWorld lounges at outstations vs where QR send passengers (in some places this may be the same). Assume the boarding passes arent coded with a block in that case outside of the QR specific lounges?
Even so, yes at some airports it may well be the same lounge, but not always. Also at some airports there may only be contract lounges rather than dedicated oneworld airline operated lounges, so you may need to ask them at check in to give you an invitation rather than just turn up at the door, as QR will be paying the operator.
Jan 7, 2024 | 6:19 am
#130
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any airport where QR does not have its own lounges you will be in the same lounge as everyone else.
this is only a problem at airports where QR has its own lounges.
the only issue at an outstation is you may need a voucher. That is not a P Class fare issue. That would also be true of anyone flying on a business ticket that includes lounge access, or Y with status.
oh, and you get no warning you need a voucher. Qr and ba use the same 3rd party non schengen lounge at waw. With ba i do not need a voucher, with qr I do.
Jan 7, 2024 | 7:35 am
#132
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Jan 7, 2024 | 8:54 am
#133
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thanks - I wouldnt have thought to ask, especially for a voucher. Hopefully all outstation check-in staff are able to understand the nuance without debate.
Jan 7, 2024 | 8:58 am
#134
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Anyway, to avoid getting into a list of wheres and what ifs and exceptions, the main point is that applicable OW status pax will get some form of lounge access irrespective of travelling on a (P) ticket.
And yes, it's always sensible to ask about the arrangements at check-in (if the agent doesn't tell you first), even if travelling on a lounge inclusive ticket.
Jan 7, 2024 | 9:51 am
#135
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In the majority of cases yes, but that hasn't been my experience absolutely everywhere. It is also the case at some airports that a OWE with a (P) ticket may actually have access to better lounges via their status than the lounge QR are sending its J passengers to.
Anyway, to avoid getting into a list of wheres and what ifs and exceptions, the main point is that applicable OW status pax will get some form of lounge access irrespective of travelling on a (P) ticket.
And yes, it's always sensible to ask about the arrangements at check-in (if the agent doesn't tell you first), even if travelling on a lounge inclusive ticket.
Anyway, to avoid getting into a list of wheres and what ifs and exceptions, the main point is that applicable OW status pax will get some form of lounge access irrespective of travelling on a (P) ticket.
And yes, it's always sensible to ask about the arrangements at check-in (if the agent doesn't tell you first), even if travelling on a lounge inclusive ticket.