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Old Jun 5, 2017, 6:48 am
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Summary of key traveller experiences and feedback on this forum since Mid-June
  • Policy statement (link) for the travel industry issued 15th June 2017
  • Refund is always an option, but very varied experiences of how quickly the refund is processed, from a few days to "still waiting". Some experiences of passengers being pressurised into taking refunds when this is not necessary if you can wait.
  • If you want to reroute from a closed destination to another middle east destination still served by QR, you might be able to do this as early as 30 days from 1st sector, although we have had reports of rerouting at 6 weeks out.
  • Where QR have to reroute onto other carriers, long haul reroutes typically onto BA, CX and TK seem to be quoted most often. In the Gulf region ME, KU, WY are quoted most often. Although RJ is a OneWorld carrier and should be a parter for QR, they are not accepting QR rerouted tickets.
  • Status of reservations for travel to affected destinations typically changes to "Unconfirmed" 7 days ahead of travel.
  • If your booking was via a 3rd party or agent you probably can't get Qatar to change the ticket until 72 hours before the first sector. 3rd parties and agents seem to be offering refunds rather than rerouting, although there has been some success if you can show them the QR rebooking policy document.
  • There has been a very mixed bag of reports of how QR are handling rebooking. Some people have no luck getting itineraries changed before 72 hours before departure, but others do. So some good advice is to always be polite but if you don't get what you want, then thank the agent for their time and HUACA (hang up and call again) - preferably after you have had a drink and have calmed down, and maybe calling a different office.

Some specific data points from other travellers:
(but there is a lot more valuable information if you can trawl back through the thread)

#753 CAI-LHR-DOH been offered as alternative for ex-CAI 4 days prior to 1st sector.
#772 KUL-DOH-LXR reroute to CAI and IST refused
#792 AUH-DOH-DPS by QR rebooked to DXB-HKG-DPS by CX
#794 Australia-DOH-HBE rebooked as DOH-BEY on QR on 2nd attempt.
#808 CAI>DOH>BOS>DOH>CAI rebooked to KRT and date change
#818 SYD-DOH-CAI changed to SYD-DOH-KWI-CAI, layovers optimed and +Qatar stopover
#830 and #840 Economy ICN-DOH-DXB rebooked onto CX ICN-HKG-DXB
#849 ex-CAI ininaries changed to ex-AMM but needed to HUACA a few times.
#856 CAI-DOH-BKK changed to FCO-DOH-BKK all on QR
#868 DFW-DOH-HBE changed to DFW-DOH-LCA all on QR 2 weeks out.
#906 Unable to get LXR-DOH-HKG-BNE rerouted until 72 hours prior
#927 CAI-DOH-BKK rebooked onto CAI-BAH-AMM on Gulf DOH-BKK (on QR) and return back to AMM
#966 DXB-DOH (award ticket) was changed to DXB-KWI-DOH on Kuwait+QR 48hrs in advance
#966 DOH-CAI (2 award tickets) were changed to DOH-BEY on QR 48 hours advance
#966 CAI-DOH-MUC (paid business) were changed to BEY-DOH-MUC 72 hours advance
#981 HKT-DOH-DWC (J/F tix) change to HKT-DOH-KWI all on QR 10 days out.
#985 ex-LXR ticket rerouted by OTA as CAI-BEY-DOH outside the 72 hr window
#1004 BKK-DOH-CAI in F rebooked as BKK-DOH-BEY in QR F, BEY-CAI in C on ME
#1005 HEL-DOH-DXB rebooked HEL-DOH-MCT on QR and MCT-DXB on Oman once ticket status went to unconfirmed.
#1057 MAN-DOH-DXB rebooked as MAN-LHR-DXB on BA (had to HUACA 3 times)
#1141 Multiple ex-CAI itineraries CAI-DOK-BKK return in J, CAI-DOH-LHR return in J, CAI-DOH-BKK single in F changed to all be ex-KWI. Had to HUACA 3 times.
#1157 LXR-DOH-NRT booked in January, flight changed to CAI-DOH-NRT
#1172 Rebooked CAI-(F)-DOH(J)-BKK to CAI-(C/ME)-BEY-(F)-DOH-(C)-BKK at 77hrs from departure
#1173 Rebooked at QR office HBE-DOH-DPS to HBE-IST-DOH-DPS on TK/TK/QR and improved timing on DOS-DPS segment

Offical guidance from QR website as of mid July:

Passengers who have purchased their tickets from Qatar Airways have the following options to refund their tickets:

For tickets booked on qatarairways.com, they can:
  1. Go to Refund requests;
  2. They can approach their nearest Qatar Airways Office; or
  3. They can call the Qatar Airways contact Centre at +974 4022 0072
For tickets booked through a Qatar Airways Office or through the Contact Centre, passengers can
  1. Contact their nearest Qatar Airways Office; or
  2. Call Qatar Airways Contact Centre on +974 4022 0072
The refund will be made to the original form of payment and the refund will be processed within 14 - 28 days.
Passengers who have purchased their Qatar Airways tickets through a Travel Agency can request their refund from the issuing Travel Agent.
Within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kingdom of Bahrain and Egypt please use: https://refundsapp1.blueivysync.com/...er-refund.html

This is a different web form as the Qatar website is blocked from some of these countries.
For further information and FAQs please visit: http://support.qatarairways.com/hc/e...002369667-FAQs
What Happened

On the 6th of June flights from Qatar to Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates (and vice versa) were suspended.

This includes all Qatar flights between Doha and Abu Dhabi, Abha, Alexandria–Borg el Arab, Bahrain, Buraydah, Cairo, Dammam, Dubai–Al Maktoum, Dubai–International, Gassim, Hofuf, Jeddah, Luxor, Madinah, Ras Al Khaimah, Riyadh, Sharjah, Tabuk, Ta'if and Yanbu.

Adding to this at 00:00 (UTC) on the 6th of June restrictions were put in place limiting flights to Doha to one particular corridor through the airspace of Bahrain. This has since been relaxed to two specific corridors through Bahrain airspace with a second corridor up the Saudi Arabia the new addition.

All other flights to other Qatar Airways destinations including the Maldives are still operating although some have delays due to the extended time required to avoid restricted airspace.

There are a couple of routes that are having to make fuel stops in Athens or Muscat but this seems to be dependent on the type of aircraft as well.

Details on the Airspace can be found here - https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/f...ain-and-egypt/

What about my Flights to other destinations?

Flights to Europe, Asia, Pacific and Norte America are operating as per schedule with minimal delays. There is no need to contact QR regarding these services.

Flights between Doha and Souto America are facing delays due to longer times and/or need for a technical stop-over. Flights to GRU and EZE are 2hr to 5hrs longer.

Flight between Doha and Africa/Middle East have longer flights times due to the airspace restrictions. Some routes like Doha to Khartoum have felt the full force of the restrictions with the flight now taking 2hr 30 mins longer than normal.

Qatar has begun to re-time flights to ensure the network continues running smoothly. Changes have been since Monday 12 June 2017, so it is advised to check your flight status and times on the Qatar website.


What about my flight to a suspended destination?

If you are due to fly in the next few days, search for alternative routings and note them down.

24 hours before your scheduled departure time, contact your LOCAL QR office, and ask for their assistance. Advise them that you have found an alternative routing which you would be willing to accept and see if they will book it for you.

If you are due to fly more than 5 days from today, try and relax. Do not panic and please do not call QR as you are blocking the lines for those flying in the next 24 hours. At this stage, Qatar is only offering options to those who are traveling in the next 24 hours.

Currently, people in the thread have suggested that Qatar is rebooking on flights through Muscat, Kuwait, Amman, Istanbul, Mumbai, Beirut, Athens and Tunis.

You can only get a refund if your booking is to one of the destinations listed at the top! (The number of people asking QR on Twitter for a refund of other flights is amazing)

What about other airlines?

Most other carriers in and out of Doha are still operating except for Air Arabia, Air Arabia Egypt, Air Cairo, EgyptAir, Emirates, Etihad, FlyDubai, Rotana Jet and Saudia.

Most other carriers are using the new restricted routes into Doha although provided the aircraft is not registered in Qatar they are allowed to use the Saudi Arabia or Egypt Airspace.

Timeline of Events:


5 June 2017

- UAE, KSA, Bahrain and Egypt withdraw licenses and close airspace
- All MS flights between CAI and DOH was zeroed out
- All GF flights between BAH and DOH closed for sale
- All QR flights between DOH and CAI closed for sale
- All QR staff travel was canceled

6 June 2017

- Airspace Restriction came into effect at 00:00 (UTC)
- All QR flights between DOH and UAE/Bahrain/KSA closed for sale
- QR flights between DOH and MLE still bookable
- QR Charters 3 aircraft from Jeddah to Muscat

7 June 2017
- QR Charters an aircraft from Jeddah to Kuwait

8 June 2017
- Qatar Airways website blocked in the UAE
- Qatar Airways offices in the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain close

11 June 2017
- Second flight corridor added along the Saudi Arabia Coast

13 June 2017
- UAE Relaxes rules allowing non Qatari registered aircraft to use their airspace to/from Qatar but they are still not allowing flights between the UAE and Qatar from any operators.
- Egypt Relaxes rules allowing non Qatari registered aircraft to use their airspace to/from Qatar. The new rules also allow for non Qatar or Egypt registered aircraft to operate flights between the two countries.

14 June 2017
- Agreement between QR and BA/A3 on reticketing passengers (link below)



Further information:
- QR Travel Alert http://support.qatarairways.com/hc/e...bile_site=true
- QR FAQs http://support.qatarairways.com/hc/e...002369667-FAQs
- QR Charter flights arranged from Jeddah KSA to Muscat Oman http://support.qatarairways.com/hc/e...Muscat-to-Doha
- QR agreement with BA & A3 to reticket their flights http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar...r-help-qr.html
- Political background and latest updates: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40155829
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by Gino Troian
Do some homework, find a route that would work, and call in at the 72-hour window. As it seems like a lot of you are worried about your dirt-cheap ex-EG fares, have them route you through IST on Turkish, then on to DOH via QR.
If you read previous posts specifically 936 you will see I have done my homework and Turkish don't fly to LXR.

I wouldn't be too worried if I was flying from a port that had several options and as I have said in previous posts, QR's refusal to reroute my flight from Australia to Egypt until 24 hrs prior a week ago resulted in a 15 hr delay to arrival, missed connections and cancelling a trip to southern Africa, a situation which would not have occurred if they had allowed the rerouting earlier. So while your flights may have been reaccommodated without any problems not all are so fortunate.

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Old Jun 24, 2017, 7:20 am
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Fly MS from LXR to CAI, it's literally less than $40...
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Royal Jordinian have terminated their relationship with Qatar
What does this mean for RJ-issued xONEx tickets? I have one that starts in a few weeks CAI-DOH and has lots of other QR segments. I've been waiting until the CAI-DOH flight goes unconfirmed before contacting RJ.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 3:21 pm
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What does this mean for RJ-issued xONEx tickets? I have one that starts in a few weeks CAI-DOH and has lots of other QR segments. I've been waiting until the CAI-DOH flight goes unconfirmed before contacting RJ.
I'm not sure that RJ has in fact terminated their relationship with QR.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 3:31 pm
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This was just 2 days ago:
"Furthermore, Royal Jordanian flights to Doha were not interrupted"
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/o...relations.html

Although the statement isn't specific to RJ/QR relations, the lack of such is telling.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 3:54 pm
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the issue is i need confirmed flight tickets for the embassy to issue visas... and my friend has had her tickets refunded 60 days from flights also due to the need to have confirm tickets for visa application.

I will call up and explain my situation, hopefully, they can change the flight plan.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by LukeO9
This was just 2 days ago:
"Furthermore, Royal Jordanian flights to Doha were not interrupted"
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/o...relations.html

Although the statement isn't specific to RJ/QR relations, the lack of such is telling.
Indeed.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by tboons
the issue is i need confirmed flight tickets for the embassy to issue visas.
Are you currently holding confirmed reservations that have been e-ticketed, and are waiting for QR to unconfirm you or cancel the flight?
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by tboons
the issue is i need confirmed flight tickets for the embassy to issue visas...
Seems to me that you currently have them, especially in terms of documentation to show an embassy; although that may change in the future. For what countries are you seeking visas?
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 11:35 pm
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I need the flight confirmation to apply for visa. However, I suspect the embassy may reject the current itinerary via Doha since flights are suspended.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by tboons
I need the flight confirmation to apply for visa. However, I suspect the embassy may reject the current itinerary via Doha since flights are suspended.
Yes, it was clear that you need the confirmation to apply for a visa. My question was, for what country(ies).
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by tboons
I need the flight confirmation to apply for visa.
Is the visa tied to a specific flight/carrier/ticket number?
Does the embassy check whether a flight confirmation is in fact in place?

If the answer to both of these is not, you may find alternative avenues to supplying a flight confirmation.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Qatar has refused to budge on their official release, and will only accommodate you within 72 hours of departure.
Originally Posted by Gino Troian
Fly MS from LXR to CAI, it's literally less than $40...
OK, one more time

QR refused the request by my TA to reroute/reticket until 72 hrs before the scheduled flight

Without knowing what flight they may put me on if I change origin from LXR to CAI how am I supposed to know what flight I should get from LXR to CAI?Or perhaps you think I should just spend my $60 (no $40 fares on my departure day) , go there on spec , hope that QR will reticket me ex-CAI , hope that I won't spend 12 hrs at CAI airport (as they would have had me do in KWI when I came to Egypt) , hope that I don't need to pay for a hotel in CAI as well if they don't get me a flight on the day I guess to arrive.

As I have previously stated in my posts , I'm more than happy to get myself to CAI,AMM,KWI if QR would tell me what flights they are putting me on.

They have told my travel agent that they will protect me out of LXR.

This is a list of all the international flights out of LXR +/- 2 days from my departure date. I don't see them protecting me on MS or by issuing a separate ticket on a Low Cost Carrier or by routing me through Jeddah

3 flights on Flynas to Jeddah
2 flights on EgyptAir to Kuwait
3 flights on Jazeera to Kuwait

The reasonable solution is to reticket from somewhere else earlier than 3 days before departure and I will plan to get myself there. As it is I can only start planning at the 72 hr mark when QR confirm where they will reticket me from.
We already have one example in this thread of the QR agent telling a Flyertalker that they could commence their journey in DOH and drop the CAI-DOH segment only to later renege on this offer/solution and demand the payment of the higher fare for a DOH origination. So me booking and paying for repositioning flights with no guarantee what QR will do is again unreasonable
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
So me booking and paying for repositioning flights with no guarantee what QR will do is again unreasonable
Yes, completely unreasonable, but that's QR "customer service".

I assume they won't allow you to change your origin from LXR until 3 days prior because you have booked with a TA.

Or maybe they have changed the "rules" again, as I was able to change my destination to BEY from HBE a couple of weeks ago for a flight next month. However this was a business class ticket booked directly with QR.
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