Thanks for checking Calchas

I agree that the list cannot be considered exhaustive - because the rule states "e.g."


So essentially AKL and CBR have been added to the list of example
QR started flying to AKL sometime earlier this year
And checking in EF, it appears QR will commence flying to CBR in February next year


(now I need to update the New or Changed Routes and Services thread:rolleyes:)

I am slightly surprised that CBR can handle international traffic ... :)

I thought that SQ is flying to CBR from SIN. Is SIN domestic, did I miss something?

SIN-CBR is not domestic

It surprised me that's all :)

Yes, it surprised me too
I can't see where the traffic would be coming from to support this service

IIRC the SQ service SIN-CBR carries on to another destination (in NZ perhaps?)
So that service might be more viable than one that terminates in CBR

Looking into it: This is a SYD-CBR tag to evade capacity restrictions. QR is only allowed one nonstop flight to SYD each day but they are allowed more if the flight serves minor Australian cities.

CBR may have offered a sweetener as well.

SIN-xCBR-WLG & vv. Capital to Capital?

Return CBR-WLG can be had in economy for AUD410 and Business for AUD916 - the latter an interesting way to garner 120 of Velocity Status.

Those fares indicate lowish loadings on the tag.

But I digress ...

CBR has been able to handle international traffic for years. The runways and taxiways were upgraded in the 90s to handle 747s when Clinton visited. There has been customs/immigration staff based at the airport for just as long.
There were a number of scheduled international flights to NZ and other south pacific nations through the 90s and early 00s with temporary immigration processing equipment rolled out when such a flight was at the terminal.
Adding permanent international capacity was planned as part of the terminal redevelopment with a location set aside for the needed facilities which was then fitted out when SQ announced their flights.
SQ291/292 SIN-CBR-WLG operates 4 times/week. SQ calls it the "Capital Express".

CBR was surprised when QR first announced that they were looking at flying to CBR on their 2018 wishlist.

The standard Australian air services treaty limits either seats or flights per week to the 4 major ports (PER/MEL/SYD/BNE) while other ports (such as ADL/CBR/CNS/OOL/etc) are unlimited. (eg, Hong Kong is allowed 70 flights/week. CX is using all of them, but could add more flights to CBR, ADL, OOL if they wanted to)
The current agreement with Qatar is limited to 21 flights/week for the major ports with an allowance for 7 more provided those 7 are to/via an unlimited port. QRs allowance is taken by daily flights to PER, MEL and SYD. SYD was added when the limit was raised from 14 to 21.

As usual, even lower fares for trans-Tasman ex-NZ.

Yes SQ loads on CBR-WLG vv are generally low (and mostly passengers flying to/from SIN and beyond). More info in the thread for this route in the SQ forum.

I am currently attempting to add one continent and change routing to an existing AA ticketed DONE4 ex-CAI. I have flown 2 segments and 14 remain... well, I have actually flown 3 segments, but they will count as 2 segments, I was protected with an extra connection in AMM due to the QR ban.

Segments flown (will count as 2 segments):
CAI-xAMM-xDOH-JFK

New routing changes for the remaining 14 segments :
JFK-LAX-xDFW-JFK-xMIA-CCS-xMIA-xJFK-NRT-CGK-xNRT-HKG-MAD-JNB-DOH


Called the AA RTW desk today and they declined to make the following routing change as it is not allowed:
CCS-xMIA-xJFK-NRT

Soon into the conversation they stated that the new 2 stopover rule for North America will not apply in my case, and that they have to go with the rules at the time of ticketing (November 2016). That is, the old rules discussed earlier in this thread - only one stopover and one transfer. Which works for me, as I do not need to make a second stopover in North America, only transfer to reach Asia.

But what they refer to as "one transfer" is actually one single connectio. AA only flies to CCS from MIA and there are no OW direct flights from MIA to Asia.

Is AA RTW desk correct about this? I thought we could have more than one connection during a North America "transfer", as long as the connecting flights were under 24hr and you had enough North American segments available.

After about 1 hour on the phone with no flexibility on their part, I said that I would call back once I reviewed the old rules in more detail. I do not have the November 2016 rules, I wonder if any if you have them and could share some insights on this issue...

Thanks

I'm interested too - AA gave me the same response a few years ago. I was on a tight reticketing timeline so changed my route slightly instead but I *think* I've done a 2 domestic segment transit before (5+ years back if so).

This has been discussed before in this forum
- whether the rule's wording "provided one is a transfer without without stopover" (my emphasis)
- means a single transfer of less than 24 hrs
- or multiple transfers each of which is less than 24hrs

Some have reported being allowed multiple transfers
but others have reported being refused

FWIW (very little:)) I have always been of the view that the rule means a single transfer

However, stex in your particular case AA175 and AA61 are your friends.
Each is a direct service MIA-NRT with a stop and plane change in DFW.
But for the purpose of a Oneworld Explorer they count as a single segment

And Sarah, retired from AA and formerly the AA RTW guru, said that a connection without transfer means 1 city. Full stop.
The info that the rules in effect when purchased seems to dispel any notions of using new and 'better' rules when they are updated.

aa61 is MIA NRT (1 stop)