When I key the below into the Oneworld Explorer tool I get error 100: You may only have one intercontinental arrival and departure in each continent against HEL. Is this really a breach? I thought I can travel via DOH both ways since it's hard to get from/ to SEZ.

SEZ-DOH-LAX-DFW-YVR-JFK-HKG-NRT-DEL-NRT-SIN-HEL-DXB-HEL-AGP-DOH-SEZ

It's moot since there are no current ex-SEZ fares.

Apart from anabolism's accurate observation, your second mistake is relying on the online tool at all. It's full of both errors in processing, and rules that are unrelated to the actual, published rules for the fare. You're better off posting your proposed itinerary here and asking for assistance, then telephoning a knowledgeable travel agent who specializes in these fares or one of the airlines' RTW desks (I've always found the one at AA both knowledgeable and helpful 800-247-3247) and booking your ticket there.

Hi All

Quick question - is JL5202 (codeshare operated by Korean Air) a valid oneworld flight for a DONEx - the oneworld engine doesn't show it as an option ?

Many thanks

No. Needs to be operated by a OW airline. That's why it is not shown as a option.

Flew a done fare on scl eze in W class. Ba posted the sector as D class. Any reason why?

Just good luck.
xONEy are A D or L fare booking class. (x = First - business - economy)( y = 3 or 4 or 5) e.g. DONE4

LA short haul does not have D class. only premium economy which booked into W class. D fare booked into W class on those flight

Maybe some "glitch" in LA's system
Earlier this year, on my DONE6, I travelled three LA segments where I voluntarily downgraded to whY
They all posted to AAvantage as "D" class - no complaints from me of course;)

the conjecture is that LA is posting the flight based on the fare as opposed to the confirmed flight segment.

this is leading to a big worry. since i have A fare that is booked to J. but LA does not have earning on A class....

Your are right, RTW first class segments, flown in D or W on Latam, regularly post as A (discount economy for LA). AAvantage customer service can straighten it out, but the whole process takes at least a month. They first send the posting back to LA. LA does not answer, so after a month's time, AA customer service takes over and fixes it. Segments flown in D or W both usually post as J.

Can anyone help me clarify the "side trips" mentioned in the Wiki.

Im building up a ticket and I've got to 17 segments. Im happy to buy a ticket separately and make it a surface in the RTW ticket to get back to the 16 segments.

Can I add that extra ticket into the same then? I don't quite understand the side trip function

You can have a set of one or more flights that are priced and ticketed separately from the RTW. They can be in the same PNR if you make the booking using a travel agent, or an airline willing to do it. The agent puts all your desired flights in the record, then prices and issues the 16 segments of the RTW, then prices and issues the other segment(s).

I don't fully understand what you're planning to do but remember that any surface sector in your RTW ticket uses up one the max allowed 16 segments.

A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey.

That’s not quite correct. A side trip is a journey which interrupts the travel under a fare component, but is still on the same ticket. The side trip is calculated separately under its own fare(s) as appropriate as you say. But, in every other respect, it’s part of the journey and counts towards the sixteen sector limit. The side trip will be printed in brackets (parentheses) in the horizontal calculation box on the ticket. A connection to/from a side trip is the same as any other kind of connection in terms of taxes or missed connection protection. Unless the airline staff read the fare calculation box, it won’t be obvious that you are making a side trip.

Attached is an example from the Ticketing Manual.


Side trips are typically not auto priceable.

Separate tickets are not governed by the fare rules. No one can stop you buying a separate ticket.

Thanks for the additional information and clarification. Since the poster here wants to exceed the 16 segment limit, I was assuming the poster wanted to purchase a separate ticket, but with flights in one PNR for connection protection, through-checked baggage, etc. I edited my post to delete the characterization of this as a side ticket.

Yes, although origin-destination surface segments (where permitted by the fare rules) don't count against the 16 segment limit.

The poster wants to exceed the 16 segment limit and was asking about side tickets. As Calchas explained, side tickets still count against the 16 segment limit, but separate tickets don't. Additional flights can be in the same PNR but ticketed separately. As long as they don't result in an additional surface segment, the RTW can still have 16 flights.

I attempted to clarify the Wiki wording. It now reads:

Q: Can I buy more segments?
A: This is no longer permitted. If you want to exceed the per-continent segment limit, one option is to add a "side trip" which are additional flights that are part of the ticket but calculated and priced per their own fare; you are still limited to a maximum of 16 sectors on one ticket. Another option is to include one or more flights in the booking record that are priced and ticketed separately; since such flights are on their own ticket, they do not count against the 16 segment limit of the main ticket. Not all agents or airlines are comfortable issuing separate tickets out of one booking record, so it is easier to book in a new record, but keeping al flights in one record and issuing separate tickets is often used to increase the ease of having connections protected when there are flight delays, schedule changes, etc.

In case something happens I think you have every right to ask for retro-claim / adjustment as you are booked in J.

it will be hassle to deal with it. I think it is not only happening on AA, also on BA and AS. so basically, AONEx will post as A class on any airline and it will be work to sort them out.
glad to know that I need to keep an eye on this issue before flying so that I can take pictures on all boarding passes.

Thanks to [MENTION=40177]anabolism[/MENTION] and [MENTION=648695]Calchas[/MENTION] for clarifying. I'll buy a one way ticket separately, The OW ticket is pretty flexible so if by some chance I miss the connection Im happy to change.

I will be booking it through BA, will I get any success of adding the separate ticketed flight into the same PNR as the OW RTW?

Another question.

The flights I want are not coming up on the OW website booking portal

Is it because those flights don't have the correct fare category available?

EDIT: Having checked Expert flyer both flights I want to find have enough seats in the D fare class.

Can anyone highlight why the OW website wont bring them up?

The point of sale you specify in expertflyer can affect availability (that means that carriers often have different availability based upon where you purchase the ticket). Without details it is difficult to explain why you are seeing what you are seeing other than the oneworld online booking engine is buggy.

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On the 14/02/18 I want to fly AA5336 YYZ-CLT and then AA5187 CLT-SDF on the same day.

The first flight it will only give me flights with connections, nor the first direct flight of the day and the second flight it wont bring up an evening departure.

You need to search for YYZ-SDF on EF. AA has gotten bad about D availability on connections. Their married segment logic is getting as bad as QR.

If the separate segments you want are on AA, BA might not be able to price it. Therefore, you might want to book your RTW with AA instead.

EF shows me the poster's desired flights with D availability as a connection on the poster's specified date. I only checked US and HKG points of sale, though, since the poster never clarified which point of sale applied.

Why would BA be unable to price an RTW with AA North American segments? That sounds very unlikely. BA typically requires that the first intercontinental flight have a BA code, but why would BA have an issue with AA segments within a continent?

We need to know more about their routing. In dealing with my exSEZ rerouting I've seen some crazy things with availability. EF showing D was there, but when put into a full itinerary it would come back as D0.

That link isn't working.

The thread has been merged with this https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...periences.html thread and to the link is now recursive.

I haven't seen that, myself. You mean a set of flights shows D available but when part of an RTW and with more than 24 hours before and after, D is not available?

Yes, that has happened to me on the next two RTWs that I have ticketed. My agent solved the problem by changing to the QF codeshare.

Would you mind letting us know which flights this happened on? And, just for clarity, the affected flights had more than 24 hours before and after the affected set? And EF showed D inventory available with the appropriate point of sale?

I really can't help but wonder why this product must be so exceedingly complicated.

Every once in awhile I consider pursuing an RTW ticket. I come to this forum, read several threads and then just leave with a dull, throbbing headache... :(

Regards

Keep in mind that this forum is comprised of people trying to maximize the benefit of the RTW product, no matter how much time and effort are required. If you just want to enjoy a few flights to multiple continents, the RTW product is not too complicated at all.

Oh, I too would kinda want to maximize the benefit for sure, that would be part of the motivation. However, every time I wade through these threads it just makes my head want to explode and I run off with my tail between my legs, back to the simple stuff.

Regards