If D is not available on a CX flight then you may book R, L, or B (in that order of preference).

(For clarity I removed the suggestion that you obtain a confirmed reservation in R/L/B on the same plane because you already had an alternative route.)

The rule sheet is only a summary of the true rules which are in the relevant IATA resolutions, in the tariffs, in the fares, and in the associated data tables.

Following up: they would not let me hold space on two aircraft (confirmed seats in D on QF via SYD and confirmed seats in R on CX). They were also pretty sure CX wouldn't let me waitlist for D but since I didn't want to risk flying economy class, I didn't explore that option further.

EF still shows D9 on the CX flight with POS HK but the BA agent couldn't see it. He suspects CX is happy to sell D themselves but not letting BA sell it as part of DONEx fares.

I'll call back in a few days/weeks to see if any D becomes available. Worst case, flying via SYD isn't that terrible.

If anyone has any tips on getting BA to see D inventory on CX, I'm happy to try. :)

Did you try calling BA HKG office?

When I had CX ticket, I had confirmed on one day and waitlist on another day. not experience on BA ticket.

I meant, confirmed on one flight and waitlisted on the other; not confirmed on both. Holding inventory speculatively is generally frowned upon.

The agent didn't even attempt to waitlist you in D? :confused:

I was confirmed on Jan 5, and waitlisted on Jan 3 and Jan 4 on CX flight on a CX ticket.

Let say I have ticketed HKG NRT CMB NRT HKG.

The fare construction says HKG TYO CMB TYO HKG.

AFter flying the first few sectors, do u think there is a chance to do a date change to HKG HND, NRT CMB, HND HKG via some helpful agent?

No. 1) It's not merely a date change. 2) You've gone from four sectors to five. 3) There is no CMB-HND service, at least on One World.

Hi Guys. Might be a stupid question but can we fare a DONEx ticket on ITA?
I'm curious to see if anyone done any from EX-EU or LHR recently and for how much?
Thanks!

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This is why I need a helpful (or ignorant agent.)

when my sister re-routed ex-JNB, they did let her do YYZ LGA, JFK DFW instead of YYZ JFK DFW

ITA can't price an RTW, but you can get the base fare from EF, and then use ITA to get an estimate of taxes and fees for various routes.

Ex-LHR base prices:
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFare Information Search:

Departing LHR on 09/17/18 for LHR
Flying AA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
LCIRAT17 AA L Round-Trip 1940.39 (USD) E 07 / --
LCIRAT21 AA L Round-Trip 2228.05 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB26 AA L Round-Trip 2353.57 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE3 AA L Round-Trip 2353.57 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB29 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE4 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT25 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB34 AA L Round-Trip 3334.22 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE5 AA L Round-Trip 3334.22 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB39 AA L Round-Trip 3922.62 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE6 AA L Round-Trip 3922.62 (USD) E -- / 12M
DCIRAT17 AA D Round-Trip 5751.86 (USD) B 07 / --
DCIRAT21 AA D Round-Trip 6614.84 (USD) B 07 / --
DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 7153.55 (USD) B -- / 12M
DCIRAT25 AA D Round-Trip 7549.73 (USD) B 07 / --
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 8106.74 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE4 AA D Round-Trip 8106.74 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE5 AA D Round-Trip 9035.09 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT17 AA A Round-Trip 9779.08 (USD) F 07 / --
DONE6 AA D Round-Trip 10329.56 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT21 AA A Round-Trip 11217.38 (USD) F 07 / --
AONE3 AA A Round-Trip 12545.84 (USD) F -- / 12M
ACIRAT25 AA A Round-Trip 12655.67 (USD) F 07 / --
AGLOB34 AA A Round-Trip 14475.76 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE4 AA A Round-Trip 14475.76 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE5 AA A Round-Trip 16125.88 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE6 AA A Round-Trip 18563.13 (USD) F -- / 12M


Ex-OSL base prices:
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFare Information Search:

Departing OSL on 09/17/18 for OSL
Flying AA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
LCIRAT17 AA L Round-Trip 1924.01 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB26 AA L Round-Trip 2094.42 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE3 AA L Round-Trip 2094.42 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT21 AA L Round-Trip 2311.48 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB29 AA L Round-Trip 2481.53 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE4 AA L Round-Trip 2481.53 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT25 AA L Round-Trip 2792.48 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB34 AA L Round-Trip 2878.60 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE5 AA L Round-Trip 2878.60 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB39 AA L Round-Trip 3275.55 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE6 AA L Round-Trip 3275.55 (USD) E -- / 12M
DCIRAT17 AA D Round-Trip 5144.04 (USD) B 07 / --
DCIRAT21 AA D Round-Trip 5718.57 (USD) B 07 / --
DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 6364.52 (USD) B -- / 12M
DCIRAT25 AA D Round-Trip 6480.16 (USD) B 07 / --
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 6967.11 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE4 AA D Round-Trip 7039.99 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE5 AA D Round-Trip 8039.16 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE6 AA D Round-Trip 9069.43 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT17 AA A Round-Trip 9072.22 (USD) F 07 / --
ACIRAT21 AA A Round-Trip 9940.70 (USD) F 07 / --
ACIRAT25 AA A Round-Trip 10929.42 (USD) F 07 / --
AONE3 AA A Round-Trip 11162.88 (USD) F -- / 12M
AGLOB34 AA A Round-Trip 12881.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE4 AA A Round-Trip 12881.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE5 AA A Round-Trip 14348.05 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE6 AA A Round-Trip 16516.93 (USD) F -- / 12M

If you are willing to re-route (and pay the $125pp re-route fee) you can add or remove segments as well as change the ticketed points. You still can't exceed 16 segments total, so if you originally book 16 segments, fly 6, and then re-route you still can't add any. If you originally book 10 segments, fly 5, you could re-route and add up to 6 more.

yes. that is the rule...... but i have had RTW with over 16 sectors twice.

my parents had 18 sectors.

reroute on QR CAI DOH to CAI ATH DOH

reroute on JJ BOG EZE to BOG SCL EZE

With the paid membership, correct?

You are not permitted to exceed 16 segments for a voluntary reroute. An involuntary reroute may involve exceeding 16 segments, and that has happened to me on multiple occasions. I didn't mention it in my post above because the context is voluntary reroutes. Note that even with an involuntary rereoute, exceeding 16 segments can cause problems in reissuing the ticket. There are various ways to work around such problems, of course.

you can use an email address to set up for 5 or 10 days free membership.

If you either post here or send to me by PM your starting city (or a few possible ones) and travel cabin (F,J,Y), I'll be happy to get the fares for you. Keep in mind that your actual cost is likely to be ~40% above the base fare due to fees, taxes, etc.

Fantastic.
London (or nearby EU) in J or F is what I would be looking for :)

Thanks!

Did you see that I posted (in post #2410) those fares immediately after your initial question? I included fares from LHR and OSL for all cabins and continents.

Hi All,
I have just purchased a DONE4 with AA and have had for the first time extreme difficulty in finding D availability on connecting AA domestic flights some 325 days out...This is a big change from the past ( have been doing DONE 4 and DONE 5 for many years ) and now have forced layovers which is not too pleasing. or less time in my stopovers....tried to look for code share flights as well but AA insist no availability in D....Anyone know why this difficulty has now arisen ?

Generally, availability via code shares is worse than as prime. I use ExpertFlyer to check availability before putting my routing together. If we knew the specific flights and dates that are not available someone may be able to offer advice.

AA 1378 MIA-LIR July 22nd....surprisingly no D class available but with only 8 J seats maybe AA are holding them back....a real pain as have been taking this flight every July for the past 12 years and this is the first time we have had an issue....causes us an extra day in MIA which we dont want !!

This has happened before. I've nearly always been able to get BA or QF codeshares on the same flights. Last time that it happened across the board, it went away after a few weeks and the availability returned.

Hi

Looking at a DONE5 which will include Australia and would have liked to do MEL-DRW-SYD but it appears that it's not allowed. Any ideas on getting around this ? Would MEL-DRW-CNS-SYD be permitted for example ? Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks

As per a recent discussion in another thread, yes, your alternative would be permitted.

I would caution against that many segments in Australia, particularly on those routes. MEL-DRW-CNS will be flown by narrow bodies with a perfectly adequate business product domestically, but when you're paying for a DONE5, I'd be limiting your Australian sectors to trans-cons on the A33x only, if at all possible.

If you do want to travel around Australia (and why would you not) it's a good place to spend miles, bad place to spend on local cash fares.

Hi,

Quick question on the 4 segments per continent rule - does it include the flights into and out of the 'continent' ? eg is ......... SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-KUL-NRT-DEL ... valid ?
Thanks

There are 5 sectors intra Asia. India is in Asia.

No, your itinerary is not valid, because it has five flight segments in Asia (SIN-BKK-HKG-KUL-NRT-DEL)
Drop one of those, and you will have a valid itinerary. The SYD-SIN is an inter-continental flight, as will be the DEL-??? flight

No, only flights within a continent count against the four segment per continent rule.

No, because India is part of Asia. The SYD-SIN segment is inter-continental so it doesn't count, but then you have five segments entirely within Asia (SIN-BKK-HKG-KUL-NRT-DEL).

Thanks for the replies - it should have been DOH not DEL in which case I am ok.

Is there a fee to pay if you have to change a date of a flight after your originally booked flight departed and you are a no show?

Im sure its been asked before but I didn't see this mentioned in the FAQ specifically

Yes, the various RTW products typically state in the fare rules that if you no-show you must pay the $125 re-route fee. Always better to cancel the flight or change the date/time beforehand.

I recently missed a flight due to congested traffic. I was charged the no-show fee, but no rebooking fee, to fly the next day on the same flight.

I didn't think there was a distinct no-show fee. If you no-show you need to pay the re-route fee as it were. Indeed I assume you could no show and then re-route with only one fee paid. Anyone done that? Bit of an edge case.

I was not charged a reroute fee as I did not have to change the route. Date changes are free. I paid only one fee, which the agent called a no show fee.

The conundrum I had has been solved. The OW website wouldn't give the connection I wanted, so I hatched a plan to make it a surface sector and book a one way ticket separately, risk the connection and just rebook if I missed.

I then realised my flight was international to domestic and the connection time I was risking was a no hoper, with a border to contend with. had it been domestic to domestic I would of chanced it, so I've just got to leave earlier and endure longer layovers.

From the rules: