The AA RTW desk was happy to take my information for Brother-in-law's LCIR29SA exKUL and send it off to ticketing for "tax calculations". So it would seem most OneWorld "special" tickets (that involve an AA long haul flight) can be booked through them.... Five day payment limit.

Happy wandering
Fred

Thanks for finding this. It's good that they spelled it out, since the IATA definition conflicts with the plain English meaning. But as long as they're specific, they can define a month or a year any way they like, of course. I give them credit for the level of detail and specificity.

I am towards the end of a DONE5 and may not be able to fly the last sector SYD-JNB....should I call QF and cancel or no show ?
I have searched but couldn’t find the answer so apologies if this has been asked and answered before.

how about CX889 who will arrive May 03?

As IATA's rule posted in the previous post by Calchas https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29482983-post2315.html
IMHO, only the date of departure is matter. So, CX889 departing on May01 is no problem

Don't think it would matter to you financially but as a courtesy cancelling it will be better. It could be a full flight and someone might be looking for a seat.

Hi there,

I am strongly thinking about going for DONE4 but I am still new to OWE RTW and would appreciate your inputs. I am flexible with originating position, but based on what I read here and EF, CAI still remain cheapest place to start? I would like to explore Europe, South America, and Asia, along with few months break between trips so I'll go for DONE4 but open to add Africa if it doesn't cost too much.

CAI-xAMM-xDOH-MOW-PRG-xDOH-JFK-SCL-BOG-GRU-xJFK-TYO-HKG-SIN-DOH

Hope I did follow the rules properly with this route, but feel free to make suggestions how I can improve this routing, TIA.

You're a year or more too late: CAICAI fares were removed some time ago because of the instability of EGP.

Your best position I think now remains TYO.

Knew it, because I was little puzzled when I see QR and Meridiana sell CAICAI RTW fare on EF but QR don't fly to CAI anymore. What's estimated fare for ex-TYO DONE4 or 5?

Confused... If you have EF access why do you need to ask here?

All I see is $6k+ fare but wasn't sure if it's accurate.

Should I look at cities below equator in Africa region as a starting point or price difference isn't much?

So IG (Meridiana) is not a oneworld carrier. [There is speculation they may join, but let me leave that aside.] IG participates in the oneworld global explorer fares, but not the xONEx product. These are two different products:

The oneworld explorer fare is the xONEx product. It is restricted by number of continents, and is limited to oneworld carriers.

The oneworld global explorer fare is the xGLOBx product. It is restricted by mileage. It allows travel on certain non-oneworld carriers who are loosely affiliated with oneworld members, such as IG.

IG seem to have been left out of the loop when oneworld pulled their fares. You might succeed in getting a ticket issued under an IG fare, but good luck. I bet no one has ever bought an IG CAICAI fare ever. And since it requires manual ticketing, it is bound to raise eyebrows. Still, stranger things have happened: I'd be interested to hear if you manage it.

As for QR, I think that is simply an oversight. Again, maybe it can be issued, but I wouldn't rely on it.

EF pulls fares from the GDS, so there's no reason to think it isn't accurate. However, be aware that EF shows base fares. Taxes and fuel surcharges will add to the cost, depending on which carriers and which airports are chosen. If you're looking for a DONE4 under $6k all-in, there's no such thing at the moment.

I'm in early stages of planning a DONEx for later in 2018 or in early 2019 and I'd appreciate if you helped me clear some points.

The wiki says:

Is this still so? I thought with the realignment of booking codes on AA we can no longer fly in A and get F class TPs in BAEC? So it no longer makes sense, statuswise, to try and rack up longish segments in the lower US (e.g., JFK-TUS) as opposed to, say, routes to the Caribbean (LAX to MBJ or BZE)? Sorry if this comes across as too BAEC-centric.

Besides, does booking a flight as a codeshare affect the YQ? Say, if I want to fly QR metal from DOH to LHR and onto LAX on AA, both flights under their BA codes, do I get to pay the BA YQ? Or does the answer depend solely on the plating carrier? (I may and will change things around a lot but so far my first overwater segment would be on AA so I'm inclined to book this with them).

Thanks in advance

YQ depends also on marketing carrier. I tried to get same itionary priced with different marketing carriers with AA RTW desk previously, mostly the YQ differences were small, but when I selected BA code instead of operating carrier code (usually AA/AY) sometimes the YQ went up a lot. You can estimate the YQ with the Matrix, but it also slightly depends on ticketing carrier so the estimate is not always accurate.

The wiki is well out of date. The ability to fly in AA First on a Business RTW ticket was removed in February 2017.

This is the present situation.

Is it possible to force your trip to book in a codeshare?

Examples)
AA8495 JFK->NRT
AA8417 NRT->HKG
AA6229 LCY -> JFK

Yes. It's easier to do so when using a travel agent, rather than the online tool, or when booking via the airline whose codes you want to use. Note that in some cases, codeshares for domestic flights can only be booked when the flight is a connection to or from an international flight using the same airline's code.

Hello,

I have an upcoming business trip that will require me to make a round the world routing. Our travel agent here at work currently has recognized it will be a round the world routing but plans on issuing 3 separate tickets (Qatar, Cathay and Air Canada).

I would like to have it all booked with OW carriers to maximize my tier points and also to "sell" it to our travel agent as hopefully being a cheaper option than what they are currently quoting (which is about CHF 8400 in business).

The basics of the routing are:

GVA-HAN (currently booked as via DOH on QR which is fine)
HAN-SYD (currently booked as via HKG on CX, also fine)
SYD-YYC (currently booked via YVR on AC which is the problem)
YYC-YTO (currently on AC, also a problem)
YTO-GVA (currently on AC, also a problem)

I've seen some of the more desirable routings getting me from SYD-YYC on OW carriers are:
Via SFO on QF then WS - the BA Avios flight calculator indicates I get neither tier points nor Avios for the WestJet segment from SFO-YYC
Via SFO and SEA on QF then AS for the last two segments - I believe this would get me Avios only for the Alaskan Airlines segments
Via NRT and YVR on JL then WS - flight routing here is 3.5 hours longer but I would get 280 tier points for the two long haul Japan Airlines flights, then nothing on the WestJet flight

Any recommendations on how I should play this with our travel agent? To be honest I am not even sure if they are eligible to purchase the OW RTW ticket for us. In any event, all suggestions on how I can maximize the benefit of this for my OW tier point balance gratefully received.

A four continent (Europe, Asia, Australia/Pacific, North America) business class RTW on OW is 9700 CHF base fare, plus taxes and carrier-imposed fees. So I don't think it's going to be a cheaper option. If you get yourself to OSL to start, it drops the base fare to 7169 CHF.

You can route SYD-DFW-YYC on QF and AA (or QF and a QF code for the AA metal).

For YYC-YTO, you could route on AA YYC-DFW-YTO but you'd have to overnight in DFW.

For YTO-GVA, you can route on BA via LHR. Although it'd be a nicer flight to route on AA YTO-LAX-LHR and then BA LHR-GVA. You'd get the much better AA J seats on a longer LAX-LHR flight.

EF is not showing AONEx fares. I tried ex-LHR, ex-NRT and ex-JNB. They're just not there. Any ideas?

Edited to add: Just tried a few more quickly, BKK and HKG, and noticed that DONEx fares are also gone.

Are you searching for more than one airline's fares? Try it with only one.

Although it shows me fares even searching multiple airlines:

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com

EF seems to be having a bit of trouble displaying fares when more than one airline is specified
It has also been reported in a recent thread regarding RTW fares out of SEZ

Probably better to report this in the appropriate EF thread, rather than in this RTW FAQ thread (which I have just done - see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29816432-post1707.html)

Try leaving the following fields empty - it works for me ex-LHR, ex-OSL, ex-JNB:

Purchasing City
Return Date
Ticketing Date
Class Code
Fare Basis Code
Show Fares for All Travel Dates

DONEX fares ex CGK?
 

/posted in wrong thread
apoligies

Hello,

I am in the middle of the DONE4 itinerary shown below. The italicized portion has been completed and it's currently on pause at DFW.

AMM-xDOH-xORD-AUS-JFK-LAX-xDFW-PDX-DFW-ICN-KUL-NRT-CMB-PVG-xDOH-JNB-DOH

I am trying to optimize the remaining segments to obtain as many EQMs on AA as possible, while visiting Asia and South Africa. I'd like to visit Bali and Vietnam, but I think those can be done outside the itinerary as cheap flights from KUL. I am also staying away from India on this trip due to having to get a visa, etc. The routing shown is the best one I could come up with while staying on nice equipment such as DFW-ICN on AA 787-9 and PVG-DOH on QR Qsuites. Any comments or suggestions on how to improve this?

you need to make up your mind if you want EQM or nice equipment?

dfw hkg cmb nrt cmb hkg lhr cpt doh.

if u want qsuites. you can do
dfw hkg cmb nrt cmb lhr doh cpt doh

EQM is more important, but trying to balance the two.

Is LHR a transit point (cannot stopover) in this case?

Eqm is the same whether u transit or stopover

Right, I forgot that Europe and ME are considered the same continent, so I can do a stopover in London as long as I finish the itinerary in ME.

So, the online tool doesn't like this routing. I get an error saying:

You have exceeded the allowable number of arrivals/departures between Europe/Middle East and Africa. A transfer without stopover is not allowed. Choose another route and update your itinerary.

By my count there's only one arrival into Africa (DOH-CPT) and one departure (CPT-DOH). Any ideas?

What about "AMM-xDOH-xORD-......??

For AA have you considering what can be earnt on AA on RTW tickets?

• https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...onomy-rtw.html
• https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...er-ticket.html
• https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ug-2016-a.html

May or may not apply to you

The online tool doesn't like many things that are permitted by the rules. I hadn't bothered with it in years until last week when I thought that I'd give it another try. Same problem. Called AA RTW desk and explained what had happened. AAgent's response? Don't waste your time with the online tool. It never works correctly.

if you want to maximize the fare, you need to understand the fare rule.

what make you suddenly want to maximize the EQM as it doesnt seem that you care for your first half of the RTW?
I think the rule is about Europe. you are doing Europe - US - Asia - Europe - Africa - Europe.

Normally, you can only enter and exit a continent once, but it is an exception that have been discussed, and the fare rule is quite clear (if I remember after the Dec 16 update) about this situation.

The AMM to second DFW part has already been flown.

Thank you for the references.

Because the first part was flown last year to achieve Platinum status. I had a few paid business fares earlier this year and if I get enough EQM from this ticket I can push for EXP status.

I found this post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27552163-post403.html

It seems that one references removing the ban on 2 return trips from LHR to ME, but in my case there's only 1, so not sure if it applies. I do have 2 exits from the Europe/ME, once via DOH-ORD and the second via DOH-CPT, so is there an exception for this?

Great Circle Mapper

can this be improved to over 80k miles?

while AA will not ticketed this but I suspect other airlines would since they dont see it as backtracking from hawaii as LHR HNL is a 1-stop direct flight.

I'm considering another DONE fare starting later this year. It seems ex-JNB/CPT the price went up to 7,738 USD if ticketed via AA. What are the cheapest origin points these days? Ex-NRT/HND seems to be the lowest I've found so far at 7,033 USD.

I'm certain that the 75k RDM isn't an issue, since that is per e-ticket, and RTWs typically have four or more e-tickets to start, with new e-tickets typically issued for many changes. However, the fare-based RDM (and EQD) earnings is really appalling. I've had transcons booked in D earn $60 EQD and 660 RDM. However, AA codes do earn 2x EQM versus 1.5x on non-AA codes. So, if the poster cares more about EQM, then using AA codes makes sense.