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R2 Apr 2, 2019 11:23 pm
Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958663)
I just double checked and it is an AA codeshare. Any other ideas? I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.

Thanks all!
Can you get the breakdown of surcharges? It's unbelievable how big a difference the flight code can make. As part of xONEx I had LHR-HEL, it was BA code on AY metal. I asked it to be changed to AY code so I could get more points in my AY FFP. The additional(!) surcharge would have been GBP154 to change the code. Just to be clear, this would have been the additional surcharge for the segment, not including change fee nor admin fee.

If you can see the detailed taxes and surcharges breakdown, you may be able ask if any of the high ones can be reduced by changing flight code / metal.

pandaperth Apr 3, 2019 2:12 am
Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958663)
I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.
The base fare for an ex-Norway DONE4 is NOK57,959 (~USD6,770).
On a 15 flight itinerary, one would expect to be paying about USD1,000 for the +++ (the various taxes, fees and (sur)charges).

Using The Matrix, the +++ for a couple of your flights are:
USD238 for OSL-xHEL-LAX on AY
USD265 for NBO-LHR on BA
(which implies the +++ for the other 12 flights on your itinerary are "only" ~USD500 - a bargain ;))

JAXBA Apr 3, 2019 6:59 am
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30958624)
I haven't done this recently, but I do remember that years ago you could only use AA codeshares on LHR/Africa if you were connecting to or from an AA metal TATL flight.
Connecting or continuing after stopover from an AA coded TATL flight, correct.

Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30958647)
My ticket has me flying QF SYD-LHR, then the AA code LHR-JNB. It was ticketed by an agency, not AA, so it's possible the AA desk would have a problem, but my recollection is that there is a restriction on using other airline codes on AA domestic flights (that they can only be booked as a connection to or from an international flight on that airline) but not on international flights.
SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”

SDandi Apr 3, 2019 8:58 am
Can you get the breakdown of surcharges? It's unbelievable how big a difference the flight code can make. As part of xONEx I had LHR-HEL, it was BA code on AY metal. I asked it to be changed to AY code so I could get more points in my AY FFP. The additional(!) surcharge would have been GBP154 to change the code. Just to be clear, this would have been the additional surcharge for the segment, not including change fee nor admin fee.

If you can see the detailed taxes and surcharges breakdown, you may be able ask if any of the high ones can be reduced by changing flight code / meta
l.
Carrier imposed fees (not broken down) are $455. The rest are fees like "Hong Kong Airport construction" and U.S. transportation tax ($75.00!!!!). Im happy to copy and paste here, but be warned: it's lengthy.

The base fare for an ex-Norway DONE4 is NOK57,959 (~USD6,770).
On a 15 flight itinerary, one would expect to be paying about USD1,000 for the +++ (the various taxes, fees and (sur)charges).

Using The Matrix, the +++ for a couple of your flights are:
USD238 for OSL-xHEL-LAX on AY
USD265 for NBO-LHR on BA
(which implies the +++ for the other 12 flights on your itinerary are "only" ~USD500 - a bargain https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Such a bargain! Thank you for checking- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. The NBO-LHR is AA codeshare. Do you think I could drop it down more if I did NBO-DOH? Total carrier imposed fees are $455 right now.

pandaperth Apr 3, 2019 9:40 am
Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30960341)
The NBO-LHR is AA codeshare. Do you think I could drop it down more if I did NBO-DOH? Total carrier imposed fees are $455 right now.
OPTION 1. Via LHR (assuming you are stopping over in London):
The +++ for NBO-LHR are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD215 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ)
And for LHR-OSL are:
  • USD26.70 United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
  • USD34 United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB)
TOTAL USD325.70
OPTION 2. Via DOH (assuming you would transit Doha):

the +++ for NBO-xDOH-OSL are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD222 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ) :eek:
  • USD8 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YR)
  • USD9.60 Qatar Passenger Facility Charge Pfc (G4)
  • USD0.50 Qatar Passenger Service Charge Arrivals (PZ)
TOTAL USD290.10
So, a small saving by routing via DOH, but you miss out on London

Notes:
  • All this information is gained by plugging your flights into The Matrix
  • You said that CX is ticketing this. CX might, or might not, collect the Carrier Imposed Surcharges for each and every carrier on the itinerary

anabolism Apr 3, 2019 1:07 pm
Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30958663)
I just double checked and it is an AA codeshare. Any other ideas? I thought this ticket should be around $6800, so just trying to figure out how it is almost $1000 more and what changes I can make.
It would be a lot more with a BA code. Hundreds and hundreds more.

Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 30959998)
SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
Well, it was ticketed by an agency that usually is on top of the codeshare rules. It was auto-priced and ticketed. Not sure what the implications are for being on an invalid ticket. I wouldn't mind if they changed me to the BA code as long as I didn't have to pay the extra carrier-imposed fees. At some point in the trip I will want to change dates, including the LHR-JNB flight.

Originally Posted by SDandi (Post 30960341)
Carrier imposed fees (not broken down) are $455..
That's quite good on a full RTW. You might be able to shave some off by using other codes, but that's not at all bad. I typically have to pay $1500-2500 in taxes and fees.

SDandi Apr 3, 2019 1:09 pm
Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 30960486)
OPTION 1. Via LHR (assuming you are stopping over in London):
The +++ for NBO-LHR are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD215 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ)
And for LHR-OSL are:
  • USD26.70 United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB)
  • USD34 United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB)
TOTAL USD325.70
OPTION 2. Via DOH (assuming you would transit Doha):

the +++ for NBO-xDOH-OSL are:
  • USD50 Kenya Passenger Airport Service Charge International (TU)
  • USD222 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ) :eek:
  • USD8 Carrier-imposed surcharge (YR)
  • USD9.60 Qatar Passenger Facility Charge Pfc (G4)
  • USD0.50 Qatar Passenger Service Charge Arrivals (PZ)
TOTAL USD290.10
So, a small saving by routing via DOH, but you miss out on London

Notes:
  • All this information is gained by plugging your flights into The Matrix
  • You said that CX is ticketing this. CX might, or might not, collect the Carrier Imposed Surcharges for each and every carrier on the itinerary
As always, so helpful- thank you! I guess I'll start learning to use the matrix for my next trip.;)

anabolism Apr 3, 2019 3:20 pm
Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 30959998)
The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30961403)
Well, it was ticketed by an agency that usually is on top of the codeshare rules. It was auto-priced and ticketed. Not sure what the implications are for being on an invalid ticket
By the way, I realized the RTW that I am currently flying has several invalid codeshares. Three domestic AA flights are ticketed as codeshares (on JL, BA, and QF) that do not involve connecting to or from international flights on the marketing carrier. This was ticketed by QR, and the codeshares were added when I changed dates on the phone with them.

Dr. HFH Apr 3, 2019 7:49 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30961827)
By the way, I realized the RTW that I am currently flying has several invalid codeshares. Three domestic AA flights are ticketed as codeshares (on JL, BA, and QF) that do not involve connecting to or from international flights on the marketing carrier. This was ticketed by QR, and the codeshares were added when I changed dates on the phone with them.
I have several on my past two RTWs as well as the one I'm starting on Saturday. On all of those flights, agent told me that he was unable to get those flights under the AA number, but availability was there as codeshares. All domestic AA metal, none connecting from or to international flights.

SDandi Apr 5, 2019 11:13 pm
Ticketed!

Thanks for all the help! If you're on social media, follow along: Insta: https://www.instagram.com/when.is.now/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/whenisnow/?ref=settings If you do follow along at either of these, please say hi or dm me, so I can follow your journeys.

Have a great weekend, all!

ernestnywang Apr 7, 2019 2:16 pm
Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 30959998)
SYD QF LON AA JNB is invalid. AA do not have the rights/freedoms to sell LHR-JNB without an incoming TATL AA coded flight. The AA codeshares on BA flights that don’t touch N. America are restricted to “online connecting/stopover traffic only.”
These kinds of flights can sometimes be booked using long sell or by booking it in conjunction with another flight and then subsequently cancel the other flight (married segment violation if the airline has such policy). True, they are not supposed to be booked this way, but once booked, they can be ticketed just fine.

JAXBA Apr 8, 2019 10:09 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 30975529)
These kinds of flights can sometimes be booked using long sell or by booking it in conjunction with another flight and then subsequently cancel the other flight (married segment violation if the airline has such policy). True, they are not supposed to be booked this way, but once booked, they can be ticketed just fine.
Some, like AA's code on LHR-JNB will appear, and can be sold from availability without needing to long sell. The flight doesn't need a connection from AA; stopovers are valid too, as long as the pax arrives into Europe on an AA coded flight.

Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any.

yehu Apr 9, 2019 1:33 am
Flights to Cuba not included in Explorer plan?
 
Hi all :)
Trying to plan our OW Explorer RTW tickets. It seems Cuba is excluded from the planner, impossible to include, although there ARE regular flights of the alliance members to & from Havana etc...
So, Is cuba really out of the destination possiblities of OW Explorer, and simply forget about it? Could not find an answer anywhere else.
Thank you!

LCSinTexas Apr 9, 2019 1:48 am
Cuba is a unique situation. You cannot fly there from the US, regardless of which passport you use, unless you travel for very specific reasons. I believe it is mostly "for education or for investment" purposes. Check the US site travel.state.gov for more info.
Try going to Cuba by way of Canada or Mexico as they have much lighter regulations.
I am honestly not sure if it can be done as part of a RTW.
Otherwise make a stop in either Mexico or Canada, and do a separate round-trip to to Cuba on another ticket.

yehu Apr 9, 2019 1:59 am
Thanks for your quick reply :)
I know about these restrictions, but even trying to "bypass" as you've suggested the US is impossible. OW Explorer online planner simply does not include any of Cuba's airports as an option at all... So it does seem that Cuba is out of Explorer RTW option, thought I couldn't find a clear answer anywhere. Thanks again!

yehu Apr 9, 2019 2:48 am
Originally Posted by LCSinTexas (Post 30980804)
Cuba is a unique situation. You cannot fly there from the US, regardless of which passport you use, unless you travel for very specific reasons. I believe it is mostly "for education or for investment" purposes. Check the US site travel.state.gov for more info.
Try going to Cuba by way of Canada or Mexico as they have much lighter regulations.
I am honestly not sure if it can be done as part of a RTW.
Otherwise make a stop in either Mexico or Canada, and do a separate round-trip to to Cuba on another ticket.
Thanks for your quick reply :)
Seems that Cuba is indeed excluded as a destination of OW Explorer program.
When you use the online planning & booking tool of the program, it is simply unavailable as an option...
Still looking for clear info regarding, which I couldn't find anywhere yet. Thanks again!

rens Apr 9, 2019 2:54 am
The flight is not available in the planner because a specific provision of the RTW rules prohibits it.The rule, however, predates AA's introduction of flights to Cuba, so not sure if this is a case of an outdated rule not being changed or if it is still in force.
As you point out there are numerous flights from the US to various Cuban cities on AA and it is not all that difficult to comply with all requirements.
The best way to find out for sure would be to call the AA RTW desk.
Given proximity, it may be a more effective use of your 16 segments to simply book a separate ticket from Miami, which will also avoid the RTW restriction (if any).

pandaperth Apr 9, 2019 6:27 am
Originally Posted by yehu (Post 30980772)
Hi all :)
Trying to plan our OW Explorer RTW tickets. It seems Cuba is excluded from the planner, impossible to include, although there ARE regular flights of the alliance members to & from Havana etc...
So, Is Cuba really out of the destination possibilities of OW Explorer, and simply forget about it? Could not find an answer anywhere else.
Thank you!
Welcome to FT yehu

My guess of what the situation is:
  • You can include Cuba in an itinerary
  • But then cannot include AA in your itinerary (for ANY flights, not just the flights to/from Cuba)
  • The tool does not allow selection of HAVana, either because of sloppy work by those that maintain the tool's database, or (more likely IMHO) they explicitly excluded HAV

My thinking is:
  1. The Oneworld Explorer "Sales Restrictions" paragraph has the following words:
    If a ticket includes travel to/from/via Cuba it may not also include flight segments for travel on American Airlines / American Eagle (operated by Envoy Airlines, Skywest, Express Jet, Republic Airlines, Mesa Airlines, Compass Airlines, Trans States Airlines, PSA Airlines and Piedmont Airlines) due to U.S. Government restrictions.
    Any such ticket will not be honoured by AA and cannot be used to travel on AA.
    I do not believe this is any sort of hangover from earlier days; there are still US Govt restrictions in place with regard to travel to Cuba.

  2. The database used by the online booking tool omits a number of ports served by Oneworld airlines (I know of ZNZ and JRO, and there are no doubt others). If you try to select HAV you get the same error message as if you try to select say ZNZ "252: This city is invalid...".
    I suspect the omission of HAV is deliberate; the Oneworld organisation is based in the USA (in New York) and my guess is that it is either prohibited from allowing a Cuban destination in its tool or it just decided to keep it simple.

  3. So, IMHO, an itinerary that includes for example:
    ...MAD-HAV-LIM...
    is valid

    Also valid, IMHO, would be:
    ...MAD-HAV-LIM-LAX-HKG... provided the LIM-LAX and LAX-HKG flights are not on AA (this itinerary is making use of the allowed second visit to North America)

    To book such itineraries you would either have to use a travel agent or an airline (not AA of course!)

ernestnywang Apr 9, 2019 11:19 am
Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 30978242)

Some, like AA's code on LHR-JNB will appear, and can be sold from availability without needing to long sell. The flight doesn't need a connection from AA; stopovers are valid too, as long as the pax arrives into Europe on an AA coded flight.

Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any.
I did this for a friend once on a non-RTW ticket, and she was able to travel just fine, but of course things may be different in another case.

anabolism Apr 10, 2019 4:02 pm
Originally Posted by JAXBA (Post 30978242)

Some, like AA's code on LHR-JNB will appear, and can be sold from availability without needing to long sell. The flight doesn't need a connection from AA; stopovers are valid too, as long as the pax arrives into Europe on an AA coded flight.

Yes, they can be booked and ticketed, but there are situations where they shouldn't be, and I don't know what consequences there might be, if any.
In my case, I'm certain the TA checked for the AA code from availability and then booked it. As mentioned, I arrive into Europe on QF prime flight. The TA mentioned that he booked the AA code because the BA code raised the cost substantially.

GetSetJetSet Apr 12, 2019 1:33 pm
THX for all the help ITT just booked RTW for 4 people

2x JFK-CDG-DOH-RGN, CNX-HKG-SYD, MEL-AKL-SCL-IPC-SCL-LIM-JFK
1x LGA-ORD-DOH-SGN-NRT-MNL, CNX-HKG-SYD, MEL-AKL-SCL-IPC-SCL-GRU-JFK
1x LHR-DOH-SGN-NRT-MNL, CNX-HKG-SYD, MEL-AKL-SCL-IPC-SCL-GRU-JFK-LHR

Dr. HFH Apr 12, 2019 10:50 pm
Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet (Post 30993716)
1x LGA-ORD-DOH-SGN-NRT-MNL, CNX-HKG-SYD, MEL-AKL-SCL-IPC-SCL-GRU-JFK
Just out of curiosity, why not start with JFK-LAX-ORD... or LGA-ORD-LAX... and pick up a few thousand extra miles?

GetSetJetSet Apr 13, 2019 12:17 pm
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30995038)
Just out of curiosity, why not start with JFK-LAX-ORD... or LGA-ORD-LAX... and pick up a few thousand extra miles?
Departing 12/26. Need to land in DOH 12/27 in time to make the 8pm 12/27 DOH-SGN connection to get to SGN in time to make a VN connection to PQC on the AM of the 28th. No way to leave NYC 26th, go to LA and still get to DOH on time. At the moment, I am wondering if it's even wise to do LGA-ORD-DOH instead of JFK-DOH. It's more EQM and a longer ride in Q-suites, but I worry about weather at ORD in late Dec...The RTW tool wasn't showing JFK-DOH as an option, but EF shows D9 for both flights JFK-DOH on 12/26.

jetsetter1k Apr 24, 2019 9:58 am
I am planning on purchasing a AONE3 ticket and I want to fly from LHR-BOS. I know a couple of months ago BA removed the A Class inventory from their flights for this segment.
Does this mean I am unable to book First Class on this segment and will have to settle for business class? Any help is much appreciated!

ernestnywang Apr 24, 2019 11:21 am
Originally Posted by jetsetter1k (Post 31032853)
I am planning on purchasing a AONE3 ticket and I want to fly from LHR-BOS. I know a couple of months ago BA removed the A Class inventory from their flights for this segment.
Does this mean I am unable to book First Class on this segment and will have to settle for business class? Any help is much appreciated!
For this particular route, AONE3 can be booked to F class.

Code:
1 BA 203F 01MAY 3 LHRBOS SS1  1705  1945  /DCBA /E           
 2 CX 811A 03MAY 5 BOSHKG SS1  0150  0510  04MAY 6 /DCCX /E   
 3 BA  28A 21MAY 2 HKGLHR SS1  2345  0530  22MAY 3 /DCBA /E   
WPRW‡MGBP«                                                     
PSGR TYPE  ADT - 01                                           
    CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG             
 LON                                                           
 BOS BA  F  01MAY AONE3          01MAY 01MAY 03P             
 HKG CX  A  03MAY AONE3          03MAY 03MAY 02P             
 LON BA  A  21MAY AONE3          21MAY 21MAY 03P             
FARE  GBP  9604.00                                           
TAX  GBP    172.00GB GBP    46.62UB GBP    506.00XT         
TOTAL GBP  10328.62                                           
ADT-01  AONE3                                                 
 LON BA BOS CX HKG BA LON Q LONLON11.85 12636.97NUC12648.82   
 END ROE0.75928                                               
XT GBP28.60US GBP4.40YC GBP5.40XY GBP3.10XA GBP4.30AY         
XT GBP11.80HK GBP17.70G3 GBP4.90I5 GBP57.80YR GBP364.50YQ     
XT GBP3.50XFBOS4.5                                             
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF                   
TKT/TL26APR19/0120                                             
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - BA                                   
                                                               
ATTN*AIR EXTRAS AVAILABLE - SEE WP*AE                         
ATTN*BAGGAGE INFO AVAILABLE - SEE WP*BAG                       
.

RChavez May 7, 2019 1:06 pm
I can't find anything excluding this, but if I have a QR issued ticket is there anything preventing segments with TLV on them from being issued on QR stock? I'm planning on ending my trip in TLV on a CAI-originated DONE3 but wanted to make sure this wouldn't violate any QR policies that I'm unaware of and aren't expressed in the fare rules.

Dr. HFH May 7, 2019 8:09 pm
Originally Posted by RChavez (Post 31076808)
I can't find anything excluding this, but if I have a QR issued ticket is there anything preventing segments with TLV on them from being issued on QR stock? I'm planning on ending my trip in TLV on a CAI-originated DONE3 but wanted to make sure this wouldn't violate any QR policies that I'm unaware of and aren't expressed in the fare rules.
Define "preventing." QR won't issue the ticket if it contravenes any QR rules. If QR has issued the ticket, there's nothing more to worry about, yes?

RChavez May 8, 2019 12:28 pm
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31077948)
Define "preventing." QR won't issue the ticket if it contravenes any QR rules. If QR has issued the ticket, there's nothing more to worry about, yes?
Well the original routing did not include TLV but it is an already-issued DONE3 on QR stock. I'm looking to change the routing to now include TLV on a BA operated flight. Not sure if QR has any policies preventing QR-issued tickets including TLV as a city anywhere on the routing. (Thinking of the HAV/Cuba restriction as the closest analogue.)

I couldn't find any policies excluding this, and it auto prices in Sabre, so I'd presume all is good. Just wanted to know if anyone had any experience on this matter.

(I do have an outstanding question to QR and will report back on their response as well.)

anabolism May 8, 2019 5:07 pm
Originally Posted by RChavez (Post 31076808)
I can't find anything excluding this, but if I have a QR issued ticket is there anything preventing segments with TLV on them from being issued on QR stock? I'm planning on ending my trip in TLV on a CAI-originated DONE3 but wanted to make sure this wouldn't violate any QR policies that I'm unaware of and aren't expressed in the fare rules.
I have not heard of any problems with QR and Israel. QR is a OneWorld members and as far as I know interlines with RJ, BA, IB, and others who fly into TLV. I'm not aware of Qatar the country having any restrictions or problems with Israel. Now, a Saudi Arabian airline would likely be a different story.

Calchas May 14, 2019 1:07 pm
Originally Posted by RChavez (Post 31080368)
Not sure if QR has any policies preventing QR-issued tickets including TLV as a city anywhere on the routing.
QR still has fares filed to TLV.

Code:
DOH-TLV      CXR-QR      TUE 14MAY19                    USD
THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS ALSO PUBLISH FARES DOH-TLV:
AA AB AC AY BA BD BT CO CX CY DL ET GF HU IB IZ JL KL KQ LH LO
LX MS MU NH NZ OS PC PS RJ SN SQ TK UA
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
QAR CONVERTED TO USD USING BSR 1 QAR - 0.27461211 USD         
QR    DOHTLV.EH      14MAY19          MPM  1342
    V FARE BASIS    BK    FARE  TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1  NLQAR1RI      N O  544.00    ----      -    3/  - EH01
  2  NLQAR1RI      N O  640.00    ----      -    -/  - EH02
 
EH01*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ CONSTRUCTED RTG
      1. DOH-AMM-RJ-TLV
      2. DOH-QR-ATH-A3/AZ/OA-TLV
      3. DOH-QR-IST/SAW-PC-TLV
      4. DOH-QR-LCA-A3/CY/IZ/OA-TLV
      5. DOH-QR-MLA-KM-TLV
      6. DOH-QR/RJ-AMM-RJ-TLV
EH02*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ CONSTRUCTED RTG
      1. DOH-LCA-CY-TLV
I flew RJ340 AMM-TLV on Sunday and I noticed while settling into row 1 that a number of passengers were carrying boarding cards printed on that distinctive Qatar cardboard.

Im a new user May 14, 2019 3:07 pm
Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 31101121)
DOH-TLV CXR-QR TUE 14MAY19 USD
THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS ALSO PUBLISH FARES DOH-TLV:
AA AB AC AY BA BD BT CO CX CY DL ET GF HU IB IZ JL KL KQ LH LO
LX MS MU NH NZ OS PC PS RJ SN SQ TK UA
What fares does Air Berlin (AB) publish? Is it normal that defunct airlines publish fares?

Dr. HFH May 14, 2019 8:58 pm
Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 31101121)
QR still has fares filed to TLV.
Fares filed and service are two different things. Tried booking and the booking engine doesn't have TLV programmed in. Both "TLV" and "Tel Aviv" produce "No city matching for your request."

pandaperth May 14, 2019 9:43 pm
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31102455)
Fares filed and service are two different things. Tried booking and the booking engine doesn't have TLV programmed in. Both "TLV" and "Tel Aviv" produce "No city matching for your request."
:confused::confused:
I just plugged this itinerary into the booking engine - no problem
TLV-LHR-LAX-HKG-DOH
I could choose flights. It failed to price up; got the usual message
Sorry, we've noticed that an error has occurred. The fastest way to get a quote is to contact British Airways.

Dr. HFH May 14, 2019 10:35 pm
Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 31102485)
:confused::confused:
I just plugged this itinerary into the booking engine - no problem
TLV-LHR-LAX-HKG-DOH
I could choose flights. It failed to price up; got the usual message
Curioser and curiouser....

anabolism May 15, 2019 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31102455)
Fares filed and service are two different things. Tried booking and the booking engine doesn't have TLV programmed in. Both "TLV" and "Tel Aviv" produce "No city matching for your request."
Matrix shows plenty of ways to book a QR fare to TLV. I tried pricing DOH-TLV in J and Y, and JNB-DOH-AMM-TLV in Y, all on QR fares:

Calchas May 15, 2019 11:30 am
Originally Posted by Some person (Post 31101550)
What fares does Air Berlin (AB) publish? Is it normal that defunct airlines publish fares?
Good spot. Probably the fare cancellation message was never sent by AB after it closed its doors.

Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31102455)
Fares filed and service are two different things. Tried booking and the booking engine doesn't have TLV programmed in. Both "TLV" and "Tel Aviv" produce "No city matching for your request."
Yes, but the question was, will QR plate a ticket that includes TLV, not will they land a plane there.

anabolism May 15, 2019 12:40 pm
Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 31104436)
Yes, but the question was, will QR plate a ticket that includes TLV, not will they land a plane there.
Matrix shows QR-published fares (as I posted just above). You're a TA, aren't you? You could try auto-pricing an itinerary on QR. I'd be surprised if didn't ticket or if someone bought it and QR had the slightest problem.

Calchas May 15, 2019 1:31 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 31104696)
You're a TA, aren't you?
Just an enthusiast. :)

RChavez May 22, 2019 4:26 pm
Thanks all for the follow up messages. Ultimately I wound up just returning to CAI because it fit better with my schedule and managed to pick up a decent J fare back to the US from there.

The anecdotal evidence (QR-issued BPs seen) as well as the GDS affirmation that itineraries involving TLV and QR-stock will auto price are helpful. I was able to confirm with QR no issue with TLV being on QR-issued tickets.

As an aside, I have long considered myself quite knowledgeable on ticketing, routing and fare rules... dealing with a now-defunct ex-CAI RTW and trying to make various changes across airlines and routings have significantly added to my knowledge base. I've had to go up against some less-than-helpful/incorrect airline agents (and these are the agents manning the trade support lines, not general public).

Gig103 May 28, 2019 2:41 pm
I'm sort of thinking about booking an RTW starting in south america (getting there on points). My first leg would be to the USA (home), then a few legs inside the USA before going to Europe, then HKG, then back to south america. The last leg is CX HKG-LAX-EZE.

Now to the question - I know on regular tickets folks sometimes 'miss the last leg' for hidden city pricing on regular tickets. Is it the same with the last leg of an RTW? Basically if I got off in LAX and took a non-oneworld ticket to my home would it be likely to run into problems for not completing an RTW itinerary?


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