Jun 5, 2025, 12:53 am
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Sep 12, 2024 | 9:25 am
#2476
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I once tried to price out a DONE4 ex TYO on the phone and the agent kept pushing me to the oneworld online tool. She seemed potentially open to the idea if the first segment was JL metal,but I didn't feel confident in her ability to do it right...so I hung up.
YMMV
YMMV
Sep 13, 2024 | 10:09 pm
#2477
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If you are thinking of booking a xONEx fare and paying in USD, I suggest ticketing sooner rather than later. You only need the first segment to be perfect.. the rest can change later w/o repricing the whole ticket.
On a separate note, there has been a recent price increase for some origination points. As of today, ex-OSL DONE4 is actually cheaper than ex-TYO.
On a separate note, there has been a recent price increase for some origination points. As of today, ex-OSL DONE4 is actually cheaper than ex-TYO.
Sep 14, 2024 | 12:41 am
#2478
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If you are thinking of booking a xONEx fare and paying in USD, I suggest ticketing sooner rather than later. You only need the first segment to be perfect.. the rest can change later w/o repricing the whole ticket.
On a separate note, there has been a recent price increase for some origination points. As of today, ex-OSL DONE4 is actually cheaper than ex-TYO.
On a separate note, there has been a recent price increase for some origination points. As of today, ex-OSL DONE4 is actually cheaper than ex-TYO.
Looking in EF the base fares appear unchanged
ex-Norway DONE4 is NOK57,959
ex-Japan DONE4 is JPY780,400
Sep 14, 2024 | 6:42 am
#2479
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About 160 JPY = 1 USD in early July versus just over 140 JPY = 1 USD now
Good timing helps wandering
Fred
Sep 14, 2024 | 8:18 am
#2480
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Sep 16, 2024 | 8:35 am
#2481
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On the topic of exJapan... I thought I read that taxes & surcharges are lower vs other starting points, possibly depending on which carrier tickets. Did I make that up? If not, can someone point me to the post(s) or outline the details? I can't find it...
It does seem Japan has some sort of legal cap on surcharges but it is unclear how that would apply to a rtw.
It does seem Japan has some sort of legal cap on surcharges but it is unclear how that would apply to a rtw.
Sep 16, 2024 | 9:08 pm
#2482
Join Date: Jul 1999
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On the topic of exJapan... I thought I read that taxes & surcharges are lower vs other starting points, possibly depending on which carrier tickets. Did I make that up? If not, can someone point me to the post(s) or outline the details? I can't find it...
It does seem Japan has some sort of legal cap on surcharges but it is unclear how that would apply to a rtw.
It does seem Japan has some sort of legal cap on surcharges but it is unclear how that would apply to a rtw.
None of the pricing has changed Norway/Japan, but the Yen has appreciated, bring them into close parity.
Sep 16, 2024 | 11:28 pm
#2483
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[QUOTE=SNA_Flyer;36531005]Taxes are going to be the same, but the fuel surcharges out of Japan tend to be a lot less for whatever reason./QUOTE]
Some jurisdictions - but I'm not sure if Japan is one - have fuel surcharges regulated by the authorities. At least JAL is transparent about their fuel surcharges, see the link:
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/inter/fare/fuel/detail.html
Some jurisdictions - but I'm not sure if Japan is one - have fuel surcharges regulated by the authorities. At least JAL is transparent about their fuel surcharges, see the link:
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/inter/fare/fuel/detail.html
Sep 17, 2024 | 1:55 am
#2484
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Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism regulates fuel surcharges for exJapan tickets based on actual fuel prices with airlines having to regularly apply for permission to charge at a given rate. JAL issues a press release every two months about it, e.g. most recently: https://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/202408/008257.html
What's murky is how this works in practice for xONEx tickets given the caps assume . I believe that's been discussed on flytertalk with (from memory) it varying based on ticketing carrier.
Sep 17, 2024 | 8:13 am
#2485
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I wonder if there's a connection between the government regulating fuel surcharges for ex-JPN tickets and the idea of carriers limiting availability for those tickets.
Probably not common knowledge.. only someone in rev mgmt can confirm.
Probably not common knowledge.. only someone in rev mgmt can confirm.
Sep 17, 2024 | 10:25 am
#2486
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I believe that all fare categories except full (F, J, and Y) are generally limited as to the number of seats on a flight.
Sep 17, 2024 | 1:50 pm
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Sep 17, 2024 | 3:59 pm
#2489
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Yep, I could have been clearer I was asking about the surcharges part of the taxes and fuel surcharges addition to the base fare.
Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism regulates fuel surcharges for exJapan tickets based on actual fuel prices with airlines having to regularly apply for permission to charge at a given rate. JAL issues a press release every two months about it, e.g. most recently: https://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/202408/008257.html
What's murky is how this works in practice for xONEx tickets given the caps assume . I believe that's been discussed on flytertalk with (from memory) it varying based on ticketing carrier.
Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism regulates fuel surcharges for exJapan tickets based on actual fuel prices with airlines having to regularly apply for permission to charge at a given rate. JAL issues a press release every two months about it, e.g. most recently: https://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/202408/008257.html
What's murky is how this works in practice for xONEx tickets given the caps assume . I believe that's been discussed on flytertalk with (from memory) it varying based on ticketing carrier.