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Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Jun 28, 2024 | 12:46 am
#2326
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Jun 28, 2024 | 5:22 am
#2327
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Jun 28, 2024 | 6:14 am
#2328
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Has anyone booked a xonex AS fare? Likely with a travel agent? I wonder if AS would require the same kind of overwater flight like AA does.
Also, for anyone crediting to AA, if you are using an independent travel agent... Aren't you affected by AA's ridiculously vague rule about where you book your tickets?
Customers will earn miles and Loyalty Points on flights when they: Book directly with American and eligible partner airlines.Book travel anywhere as an AAdvantage Business™ member or contracted corporate traveler.Book through preferred travel agencies. American will share a list of eligible preferred agencies on aa.com in late April.
Also, for anyone crediting to AA, if you are using an independent travel agent... Aren't you affected by AA's ridiculously vague rule about where you book your tickets?
Customers will earn miles and Loyalty Points on flights when they: Book directly with American and eligible partner airlines.Book travel anywhere as an AAdvantage Business™ member or contracted corporate traveler.Book through preferred travel agencies. American will share a list of eligible preferred agencies on aa.com in late April.
Jun 28, 2024 | 11:43 am
#2329
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Jun 28, 2024 | 8:09 pm
#2331
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Jun 28, 2024 | 8:39 pm
#2332
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Re: using a TA -- I don't know if having an AA-coded overwater segment is a requirement to using the AA xONEx fare.. or just a preference stated by the AA RTW desk. If it is the former, then it makes sense to explore the idea of an AS xONEx fare instead. If it's the latter, then nevermind.
Jun 28, 2024 | 8:54 pm
#2333
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Given they also don’t have a RTW desk and their elite agents told me they don’t do RTW fares it could easily be a pain to change just as QF is.
Jun 28, 2024 | 9:41 pm
#2334
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Customers will earn miles and Loyalty Points on flights when they: Book directly with American and eligible partner airlines.Book travel anywhere as an AAdvantage Business™ member or contracted corporate traveler.Book through preferred travel agencies. American will share a list of eligible preferred agencies on aa.com in late April.
Jun 28, 2024 | 11:19 pm
#2335
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Yes, it would be as bad as QF which is why I suggested the TA route.
Jun 28, 2024 | 11:27 pm
#2336
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Seems pretty clear if AA works for your needs that’s the easiest, but I still believe after a couple of these the deals can be so good I don’t even mind the 10 hours of my life spent on the phone w Qantas. Even at my standard billing rate 😂
Jun 28, 2024 | 11:34 pm
#2337
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So much to unravel here..
AFAICT, the only AS "over water" routes are between Hawaii and mainland U.S. The AA requirement for over water is TATL or TPAC.
Actually AS codes are on transatlantic flights too, for example. But this was all conjecture because we don't know if such requirements exist for booking AS RTW fares.
I believe that AA dropped that plan when Mr. Raja left the company.
Ok good to know.
Even if EF is accurate in this regard, why would you want to book this fare with an airline that has basically no experience with the complicated rules that govern the fare?
Nobody is suggesting that the fare be booked with AS agents. Full stop. The only scenario I'm suggesting is using a TA ( again, not AS agents) to price using the AS fare. Seeing as how the AA fares are required to have AA coded overwater segment, maybe the AS fares don't have such rules? I don't know, this is all open question.
I believe that it's an unpublished requirement. Note that AA codeshares on other carriers' metal meet the requirement.
Yes, I realize that. The point of considering AS over AA fares is to avoid AA coded flights that don't credit well with BA or AA programs. No other reason driving this exercise.
Actually AS codes are on transatlantic flights too, for example. But this was all conjecture because we don't know if such requirements exist for booking AS RTW fares.
I believe that AA dropped that plan when Mr. Raja left the company.
Ok good to know.
Even if EF is accurate in this regard, why would you want to book this fare with an airline that has basically no experience with the complicated rules that govern the fare?
Nobody is suggesting that the fare be booked with AS agents. Full stop. The only scenario I'm suggesting is using a TA ( again, not AS agents) to price using the AS fare. Seeing as how the AA fares are required to have AA coded overwater segment, maybe the AS fares don't have such rules? I don't know, this is all open question.
I believe that it's an unpublished requirement. Note that AA codeshares on other carriers' metal meet the requirement.
Yes, I realize that. The point of considering AS over AA fares is to avoid AA coded flights that don't credit well with BA or AA programs. No other reason driving this exercise.
Jun 28, 2024 | 11:42 pm
#2338
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Jun 29, 2024 | 12:58 am
#2339
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All potentially offset by the fees a TA will charge to issue and change one of these. However, I also recognize that some members value the "best deal" over time saved, so to each their own!