Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1726

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
#1727


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,241
#1728



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Are you certain it's only 5% of the base fare and not the whole thing?
16. VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
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(b) Cancellations and Refunds
1. After ticket issuance - Cancellation/No Show Forfeit 10% of ticketed fare for Economy Class fares Forfeit 5% of ticketed fare for Business/First Class fares
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I have always taken this to mean 5% of the base fare and full refund of the taxes and surcharges., Perhaps I'm mistaken? (I never cancelled a RTW ticket before)
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(b) Cancellations and Refunds
1. After ticket issuance - Cancellation/No Show Forfeit 10% of ticketed fare for Economy Class fares Forfeit 5% of ticketed fare for Business/First Class fares
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#1729



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
It's not a rule, meaning part of the fare rules
but it is a known restriction of the on-line booking tool
So, you can have a QR flight as the first flight, but then you cannot book it using the tool.
but it is a known restriction of the on-line booking tool
So, you can have a QR flight as the first flight, but then you cannot book it using the tool.
Last edited by pandaperth; Mar 11, 2024 at 1:32 am
#1730


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,241
Yes, the tool did the booking with QF (I'm yet to get the ticket)
From the rule sheet
From the rule sheet
16. VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
...
(b) Cancellations and Refunds
1. After ticket issuance - Cancellation/No Show Forfeit 10% of ticketed fare for Economy Class fares Forfeit 5% of ticketed fare for Business/First Class fares
...
I have always taken this to mean 5% of the base fare and full refund of the taxes and surcharges., Perhaps I'm mistaken? (I never cancelled a RTW ticket before)...
(b) Cancellations and Refunds
1. After ticket issuance - Cancellation/No Show Forfeit 10% of ticketed fare for Economy Class fares Forfeit 5% of ticketed fare for Business/First Class fares
...
That's an important clarification to steveholt's comment.
#1731




Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Gold, HH Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 54
CAI-xDOH-DXB-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB - priced out at USD $6K+
but changing it to
CAI-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB (and ensuring that I only use BA, IB and CX for the over water segments) - priced this at $3442. (validating on CX)
If I used the AA flight from MAD to DFW - it prices using AA base fare (>$7k), if I use QR in the first segment it uses QR base fare (>$5k).
With these restrictions in mind - I was able to get the AA desk to price the itinerary at around $3,800 (validating/ticketing on AA) - higher YQ and taxes but perhaps worth it to deal with the AA RTW.
Good luck
#1732

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
So I've been playing around with this quite a bit, with the online tool, SABRE and with the AA desk. ex-CAI different airlines have published different fares. It appears QR and AA have published fares in USD while the rest are publishing in EGP. Further, it appears that the fare selected is based on the "dominant" carrier, which seems to be the first overwater/long-haul carrier OR the first carrier. For me here's what I saw:
CAI-xDOH-DXB-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB - priced out at USD $6K+
but changing it to
CAI-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB (and ensuring that I only use BA, IB and CX for the over water segments) - priced this at $3442. (validating on CX)
If I used the AA flight from MAD to DFW - it prices using AA base fare (>$7k), if I use QR in the first segment it uses QR base fare (>$5k).
With these restrictions in mind - I was able to get the AA desk to price the itinerary at around $3,800 (validating/ticketing on AA) - higher YQ and taxes but perhaps worth it to deal with the AA RTW.
Good luck
CAI-xDOH-DXB-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB - priced out at USD $6K+
but changing it to
CAI-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB (and ensuring that I only use BA, IB and CX for the over water segments) - priced this at $3442. (validating on CX)
If I used the AA flight from MAD to DFW - it prices using AA base fare (>$7k), if I use QR in the first segment it uses QR base fare (>$5k).
With these restrictions in mind - I was able to get the AA desk to price the itinerary at around $3,800 (validating/ticketing on AA) - higher YQ and taxes but perhaps worth it to deal with the AA RTW.
Good luck
CAI - xMAD - PRG (IB)
PRG - xDOH - KUL (QR)
KUL - NRT (MH)
HND - GMP (JL)
ICN - KUL (MH)
KUL - xHKG - LAX (CX)
LAX - SFO (AA)
SFO - JFK (AA)
JFK - DFW (AA)
DFW - DOH (QR)
#1733


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,241
No, the tool is doing my head in. Multiple errors like the 'over 34K' one and it will only offer me RJ via AMM when my first segment is CAI-DOH.
I've spoken to Qantas in Hobart. It's being pieced together manually. That's a very good fare, though. Very cheap taxes. Was it done using the tool? Would you like to share your routing?
I've spoken to Qantas in Hobart. It's being pieced together manually. That's a very good fare, though. Very cheap taxes. Was it done using the tool? Would you like to share your routing?
CAI-xDOH-DFW-xANC (AA codes)
ANC-ORD
ORD-SJU
SJU-CLT
CLT-MEX
MEX-JFK
JFK-SYD
SYD-BLR
BLR-KUL
KUL-HKG (CX)
HKG-xLHR-CDG (BA)
CDG-xDOH-AMM (QR)
First, Qantas said CAI-DOH had to be on the QR code if I wanted A. I could book the AA code, but I'd be in H.
Second, Qantas said I must end in CAI. The agent I spoke with was fully aware of the Middle East exception (among the others) but he insisted five "senior ticketing agents" had all looked at the rules and said I must in CAI. More concerning, he said the oneworld desk also supported that position.
It was priced at AUD8403. The highest YQ charges were $1394 and $636 and the highest YR was $715. The agent I spoke with didn't know where exactly they came from, though.
#1734




Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Andover, MA, 01810
Posts: 1,988
Second, Qantas said I must end in CAI. The agent I spoke with was fully aware of the Middle East exception (among the others) but he insisted five "senior ticketing agents" had all looked at the rules and said I must in CAI. More concerning, he said the oneworld desk also supported that position.
#1735




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
So I've been playing around with this quite a bit, with the online tool, SABRE and with the AA desk. ex-CAI different airlines have published different fares. It appears QR and AA have published fares in USD while the rest are publishing in EGP. Further, it appears that the fare selected is based on the "dominant" carrier, which seems to be the first overwater/long-haul carrier OR the first carrier. For me here's what I saw:
CAI-xDOH-DXB-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB - priced out at USD $6K+
but changing it to
CAI-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB (and ensuring that I only use BA, IB and CX for the over water segments) - priced this at $3442. (validating on CX)
If I used the AA flight from MAD to DFW - it prices using AA base fare (>$7k), if I use QR in the first segment it uses QR base fare (>$5k).
With these restrictions in mind - I was able to get the AA desk to price the itinerary at around $3,800 (validating/ticketing on AA) - higher YQ and taxes but perhaps worth it to deal with the AA RTW.
Good luck
CAI-xDOH-DXB-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB - priced out at USD $6K+
but changing it to
CAI-xLHR-PMI-xMAD-DFW-GRU-JFK-xHKG-DXB (and ensuring that I only use BA, IB and CX for the over water segments) - priced this at $3442. (validating on CX)
If I used the AA flight from MAD to DFW - it prices using AA base fare (>$7k), if I use QR in the first segment it uses QR base fare (>$5k).
With these restrictions in mind - I was able to get the AA desk to price the itinerary at around $3,800 (validating/ticketing on AA) - higher YQ and taxes but perhaps worth it to deal with the AA RTW.
Good luck
#1736

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
Need some advice
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
#1737
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,112
Need some advice
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
#1738




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
Need some advice
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
#1739




Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: United Nations 193, UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 6,358
Few points:
When I was dealing with a medical issue a few weeks back QF confirmed to me the refund charge is 5% of the base fare - 100% of taxes would get refunded. So you might need to HUCA, but right now looks like refund charge is < 200 USD.
Does anyone have a list of what jacks the YR/YQ charges? So far, it seems to be:
When I was dealing with a medical issue a few weeks back QF confirmed to me the refund charge is 5% of the base fare - 100% of taxes would get refunded. So you might need to HUCA, but right now looks like refund charge is < 200 USD.
Does anyone have a list of what jacks the YR/YQ charges? So far, it seems to be:
- any BA segment (using AT or IB out of CAI lowers it significantly)
- any QR segment
- any QF segment - especially longhauls
#1740




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
Need some advice
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million
I am almost done with my itinerary, just pending one final date confirmation.
I reach the booking page with credit card details, am I right to assume once I click submit, the payment will be automatically effected? or i still need to talk to airlines to get it ticketed?
When you guys mentioned ticketing, does it mean you are talking to airlines service agent to get the ticket issue instead of through the rtw page?
thanks a million



