Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1666
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,616
I tried using the oneworld tool to set up a QF ticketed DONE5 but the system keeps on trying to force it to a DGLOB fare and telling me the miles are over even though the segments are only 15 and everything else seems in order. Is there some way to stop this happening or something I am doing wrong. Are you using the new beta tool or the old to arrange these?:
CAI-xAMM-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-NRT-xHKG-YVR-DFW-IAH-xDFW-SCL,GRU-xJFK-HEL-DOH
CAI-xAMM-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-NRT-xHKG-YVR-DFW-IAH-xDFW-SCL,GRU-xJFK-HEL-DOH
I know this sounds crazy but did you try the AI-powered booking tool?
Actually, I have gotten CAI-AMM-ORD on RJ move to ticketing, so that's not the issue either.
Last edited by izzik; Mar 7, 2024 at 8:31 pm
#1667




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
[QUOTE=izzik;36062430]If I had to guess, the tool doesn't like open jaw (ie, ending with a surface segment even though it's legal). If it encounters these kinds of quirks, it throws back a meaningless error like "too many miles".
Yep thanks so much that was it - the open jaw at the end! Time to get routing exact now.
Yep thanks so much that was it - the open jaw at the end! Time to get routing exact now.
#1668


Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA ExPl, BA Gold, DL Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, probably some others
Posts: 4,935
I've gotten a RJ CAI-AMM followed by QR AMM-DOH-JFK and eventually ending with AKL-DOH-DXB as an open jaw to price out without getting the unexplained error at the end of the flight selection process, although I haven't actually tried to ticket as of yet.
#1670
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
Programs: AS 75K;BA Silver;AA G;HH Dia;HY Glob
Posts: 16,678
From the rules:
The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones:
o Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia)
o Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)
o Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia)
o Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)
Last edited by jerry a. laska; Mar 8, 2024 at 12:48 am
#1671




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
#1672




Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: United Nations 193, UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 6,356
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
#1673

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed
approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5.
Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price
#1674




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
Yeah sorry please see below
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east.
I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year.
I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up.
The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK.
Hope that helps
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east.
I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year.
I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up.
The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK.
Hope that helps
#1675

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
Yeah sorry please see below
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east.
I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year.
I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up.
The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK.
Hope that helps
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH
I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east.
I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year.
I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it.
I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up.
The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK.
Hope that helps
#1676

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
#1677




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
Yes I'll make way separately between SCL and GDU.
Unless I'm mistaken there are no bookable OW options intra-South America on. XONEX ticket with maybe the exception of EZE-GRU on QR. Not sure if this can be booked as a standalone sector. It's prob as bad as Africa now for OW routes.
Unless I'm mistaken there are no bookable OW options intra-South America on. XONEX ticket with maybe the exception of EZE-GRU on QR. Not sure if this can be booked as a standalone sector. It's prob as bad as Africa now for OW routes.
#1678




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
Programs: AA LPLT, SQ Gold, QF, BA, UA, AS NB, Bonvoy LPLT, HH Gold
Posts: 398
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
Sounds like you hit similar ANC problem as me
#1679
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
Programs: AS 75K;BA Silver;AA G;HH Dia;HY Glob
Posts: 16,678
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai
1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM)
2. NWK - LAX (AS)
3. LAX - DFW (AA)
4. DFW - SFO (AA)
5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG)
6. KUL - ICN (MH)
7. ICN - HND (JL)
8. NRT - KUL (MH)
9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH)
10. VIE - DOH (QR)
11. DOH - CAI (QR)
Questions,
1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice?
2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL
3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London.
AA JFK-LAX will be a better choice than AS EWR-LAX; better lounges at JFK and AS seats are only recliner.
#1680




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: AY Platinum (BA refugee), AA liftime gold
Posts: 689
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-ANC-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-xDOH-HEL-DXB
and it says it's valid on the build page (with well over 34k miles of course), then lets me pick all the flights but won't let me go further due to the 34k "limit".
Same issue with this routing so it's not an ANC problem:
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-xDOH-HEL-DXB
Likewise with this routing so it's not about the end of the itin either:
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-DOH
And likewise with this routing so it's not about the transcon:
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-JFK-EZE,GRU-DOH
Last edited by zoombee; Mar 10, 2024 at 9:03 am Reason: typo on surface sector not showing




