AONE4 from Khartoum
Jan 11, 2012 | 8:54 am
#121
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Majdolin Travel & Tourism Agency
Khartoum, Sudan
+249 18 378 6555
which isn't to say Cathay doesn't know about one that Google doesn't.
My limited experience trying to communicate with a place as (relatively) modern as Damascus wasn't very productive, though. But you might get lucky. I'd be hard-pressed to give a c/c to a stranger in that part of the world, though.
Jan 11, 2012 | 10:06 am
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The only TA that shows up on google maps is
Majdolin Travel & Tourism Agency
Khartoum, Sudan
+249 18 378 6555
which isn't to say Cathay doesn't know about one that Google doesn't.
My limited experience trying to communicate with a place as (relatively) modern as Damascus wasn't very productive, though. But you might get lucky. I'd be hard-pressed to give a c/c to a stranger in that part of the world, though.
Majdolin Travel & Tourism Agency
Khartoum, Sudan
+249 18 378 6555
which isn't to say Cathay doesn't know about one that Google doesn't.
My limited experience trying to communicate with a place as (relatively) modern as Damascus wasn't very productive, though. But you might get lucky. I'd be hard-pressed to give a c/c to a stranger in that part of the world, though.
Jan 17, 2012 | 2:48 pm
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Jan 18, 2012 | 9:59 am
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When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower
than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.
than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.
Jan 18, 2012 | 1:53 pm
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Jan 18, 2012 | 7:00 pm
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Purchase an ex-KRT xONE3 in Australia (no published xONE3 fares in Australia - or any southern hemisphere country for that matter)
Then after commencing the journey upgrade it to an xONE4/5/6 using this rule:
16(c) Upgrading
5) At any time the oneworld Explorer fare may be used as credit towards payment of any higher fare from the point of origin provided the conditions of the higher fare have been met. No fee will apply. Where such credit is towards another Explorer fare, retroactive use will be permitted. Reissued tickets must be endorsed --NON REF/ XXX-- (XXX equals oneworld Explorer fare basis code) and the original Non-Refundable amount remains Non-Refundable. If the upgraded ticket is subsequently cancelled, the original fee will apply.
5) At any time the oneworld Explorer fare may be used as credit towards payment of any higher fare from the point of origin provided the conditions of the higher fare have been met. No fee will apply. Where such credit is towards another Explorer fare, retroactive use will be permitted. Reissued tickets must be endorsed --NON REF/ XXX-- (XXX equals oneworld Explorer fare basis code) and the original Non-Refundable amount remains Non-Refundable. If the upgraded ticket is subsequently cancelled, the original fee will apply.
Jan 18, 2012 | 7:49 pm
#131
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When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the
ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to
the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower
than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel
originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.
ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to
the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower
than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel
originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.
Nice thought but I think a risky strategy.
I base my opinion on the following:
Purchase AONE4 ex-KRT from QF in Australia. As we all know you will be up-fared to the price of an AONE4 ex-SYD.
Halfway through trip, I decide that I want to add a continent. What is QF likely to do?-
1)Look at the AONE5 fare ex-KRT and say that they will use that fare to determine your new fare and therefore charge you only the change fee because you have already paid more than the AONE5 fare ex-KRT when buying the AONE4 ex-KRT from QF in Australia
or
2)Look at the AONE5 fare ex-SYD because that is how your ticket was priced/issued and charge you the full difference between an ex-SYD AONE4 and AONE5
Shouldn't be any different for upfaring an AONE3 to an AONE4/5/6 - the rules applicable to your original ticketing would almost certainly be those applied.
16(c) Upgrading
5) At any time the oneworld Explorer fare may be used as credit towards payment of any higher fare from the point of origin provided the conditions of the higher fare have been met. No fee will apply. Where such credit is towards another Explorer fare, retroactive use will be permitted. Reissued tickets must be endorsed --NON REF/ XXX-- (XXX equals oneworld Explorer fare basis code) and the original Non-Refundable amount remains Non-Refundable. If the upgraded ticket is subsequently cancelled, the original fee will apply.
5) At any time the oneworld Explorer fare may be used as credit towards payment of any higher fare from the point of origin provided the conditions of the higher fare have been met. No fee will apply. Where such credit is towards another Explorer fare, retroactive use will be permitted. Reissued tickets must be endorsed --NON REF/ XXX-- (XXX equals oneworld Explorer fare basis code) and the original Non-Refundable amount remains Non-Refundable. If the upgraded ticket is subsequently cancelled, the original fee will apply.
You should however be able to buy the AONE3 at the ex-KRT price but I could imagine QF trying to wriggle around it and charge the minimum AONEx fare published in OZ ie an AONE4 but this is pure speculation on my part
Last edited by 3544quebec; Jan 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Jan 20, 2012 | 11:10 pm
#132
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itinerary attempt
Hello, I have been reading the forums, and am interested in trying an xONE4 from Khartoum. I've read the rules as best I can, but I can't seem to get it to work. I tried the validator on the mileagemonkey site, and it came up with errors. I also tried a simpler itinerary on the oneworld site, but it quoted me a much higher fare (not the ex-Sudan fare).
Is there any way someone could help me figure out if my itinerary is valid, and if not, then where? Also, does anyone know where to actually book a ticket for the ex-krt fare? (I've heard about canada, but how do I actually do it? Are there canadian travel agents who specialise in rtw? Are they able to book without a surcharge for fuel, etc?)
The itinerary I am thinking of is as follows (brackets mean that the stop is transit for less than 24 hours -- am I correct that these count as a segment?):
krt-(amm)-(dme)-vvo-(dme)-(nrt)-syd-cns-syd-del-hkg-mia-phx-ord-anc-ord-amm
Thanks for your help!
Is there any way someone could help me figure out if my itinerary is valid, and if not, then where? Also, does anyone know where to actually book a ticket for the ex-krt fare? (I've heard about canada, but how do I actually do it? Are there canadian travel agents who specialise in rtw? Are they able to book without a surcharge for fuel, etc?)
The itinerary I am thinking of is as follows (brackets mean that the stop is transit for less than 24 hours -- am I correct that these count as a segment?):
krt-(amm)-(dme)-vvo-(dme)-(nrt)-syd-cns-syd-del-hkg-mia-phx-ord-anc-ord-amm
Thanks for your help!
Jan 21, 2012 | 12:17 am
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I also tried a simpler itinerary on the oneworld site, but it quoted me a much higher fare (not the ex-Sudan fare).
The itinerary I am thinking of is as follows (brackets mean that the stop is transit for less than 24 hours -- am I correct that these count as a segment?):
krt-(amm)-(dme)-vvo-(dme)-(nrt)-syd-cns-syd-del-hkg-mia-phx-ord-anc-ord-amm
Thanks for your help!
The itinerary I am thinking of is as follows (brackets mean that the stop is transit for less than 24 hours -- am I correct that these count as a segment?):
krt-(amm)-(dme)-vvo-(dme)-(nrt)-syd-cns-syd-del-hkg-mia-phx-ord-anc-ord-amm
Thanks for your help!
Well here's a start from this thread one page back -
If I price out an AONE5 KRT-AMM-......AMM-KRT online I get a price of $US8923 + $1385 taxes. The base price corresponds to the price given on EF. If I price the same ex-KRT itinerary but drop the last segment and end in AMM it tells me it is a vald itinerary but I get quoted $US13531 + $1623 taxes. The $US13531 doesn't correspond to the base price in any country on the itinerary.
Jan 25, 2012 | 4:06 am
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