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gebhartj May 15, 2007 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by gregorygrady (Post 7743359)
What's the point of status matching to UA before the SFO-AKL flight? The flight is already booked into Int'l business class which means you will get Lounge Access and other Business Class perks like check-in, etc. And just from that flight you will earn enough EQMs to qualify for Premier. I see no reason to status match before the flight. Or am I missing something?

If you match to Premier, you get a 25% RDM bonus, if you match to Premier Executive, it's a 100% bonus.

flyyyz May 15, 2007 6:54 pm

A previous poster had reported that UA require you to attain about 6000 miles within 90 days of being matched in order to keep the status.

For me, it really depends on how long the status is valid for (I think UA expires in Mar? I am sure a more informed FTer will correct me if I am wrong! :D) and when I plan on flying *A.

launit May 17, 2007 2:26 pm

Quick question before I fly out of Heathrow tomorrow - Recently became UA Prem Exec after matching Plat status with AA. Any suggestions on which Star Alliance lounge I should choose relax in at Terminal 3?

lucky9876coins May 17, 2007 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by launit (Post 7754525)
Quick question before I fly out of Heathrow tomorrow - Recently became UA Prem Exec after matching Plat status with AA. Any suggestions on which Star Alliance lounge I should choose relax in at Terminal 3?

Welcome to Flyertalk!:) ^

Here are your choices and my review of them.

launit May 17, 2007 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 7754868)
Welcome to Flyertalk!:) ^

Here are your choices and my review of them.

Fantastic! Love FT! Thanks for the advice. Are you aware of any star alliance lounge upgrades since posting your review in Dec '04? If not I'll add my 2 cents to the thread once I get to LA.

lucky9876coins May 18, 2007 8:30 am


Originally Posted by launit (Post 7755106)
Fantastic! Love FT! Thanks for the advice. Are you aware of any star alliance lounge upgrades since posting your review in Dec '04? If not I'll add my 2 cents to the thread once I get to LA.

That was actually in November 2006. No substantial changes have been made since then.

kenwood33 May 21, 2007 2:13 pm

I tried to ask UA match AC elite status, but they are only giving me premier (first level) with the condition that I have to accumulate some miles/segments in the next 90 days. Any tips on how I can get UA to give me premier executive level? I fly alot and I don't mind have an additional condition attached.

Fims May 21, 2007 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by kenwood33 (Post 7773476)
I tried to ask UA match AC elite status, but they are only giving me premier (first level) with the condition that I have to accumulate some miles/segments in the next 90 days. Any tips on how I can get UA to give me premier executive level? I fly alot and I don't mind have an additional condition attached.

Why you need the UA status if you have already AC one? Both are members of StarAlliance... I guess if you would comp at UA with oneworld or Skyteam FF card of the correct level, you would get the comp on UA...

CorSter May 22, 2007 12:06 pm

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CorSter May 22, 2007 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by Fims (Post 7776272)
Why you need the UA status if you have already AC one? Both are members of StarAlliance... I guess if you would comp at UA with oneworld or Skyteam FF card of the correct level, you would get the comp on UA...

E+ Access? But with UA you don't get domestic lounge access, so it's a trade-off.

AC Elite is 35k, whereas Premier Executive is 50k, so if you havn't hit 50k, that would explain why they would not match.

I know some people hold AC Elite and UA Premier, the latter just for E+.

kenwood33 May 22, 2007 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by Fims (Post 7776272)
Why you need the UA status if you have already AC one? Both are members of StarAlliance... I guess if you would comp at UA with oneworld or Skyteam FF card of the correct level, you would get the comp on UA...


Because with premier executive status you get 100% bonus miles on either UA or USAir flights, which are what I take most of the time.

I understand that there is a qualification difference between UA premier exec and AC elite, but I made it clear to the csr that I am willing to make up the difference.

Fims May 22, 2007 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by kenwood33 (Post 7782358)
Because with premier executive status you get 100% bonus miles on either UA or USAir flights, which are what I take most of the time.

I understand that there is a qualification difference between UA premier exec and AC elite, but I made it clear to the csr that I am willing to make up the difference.

I see. In that case of course.

What I can recommend to do is that comp to Skyteam status based on AC one, hopefully to higher level on DL or CO and then comp via that to UA, as DL and CO are other alliance competitors for UA. ;)

Or make yourself by earning to UA wished status and on the way there you can still use *A gold benefits thanks for AC level.. :)

firstclasslad May 24, 2007 8:47 am


Originally Posted by kenwood33 (Post 7773476)
I tried to ask UA match AC elite status, but they are only giving me premier (first level) with the condition that I have to accumulate some miles/segments in the next 90 days. Any tips on how I can get UA to give me premier executive level? I fly alot and I don't mind have an additional condition attached.

Maybe you need something outside the* Alliance. For example I used my BA Gold membership to get me a PE MP from UA. Received a simple + quick response via email.

Markus1301 May 27, 2007 3:55 am

Does anyone know if any airline does match a spanair *G member??

Markus

jwking May 27, 2007 7:12 am


Originally Posted by kenwood33 (Post 7773476)
I tried to ask UA match AC elite status, but they are only giving me premier (first level) with the condition that I have to accumulate some miles/segments in the next 90 days. Any tips on how I can get UA to give me premier executive level? I fly alot and I don't mind have an additional condition attached.

FWIW, I asked UA to match my AA PLT status and was told that I would be given PE for 90 day and needed to fly 12,500 miles. Luckily, one (upcoming) trip to China should take care of that.

Sounds like UA is currently offering a challenge, not an automatic match.

jwking May 27, 2007 7:16 am


Originally Posted by BA Loyal (Post 7558228)
This number has been disconnected!

605-343-4104 worked for me! Try it again.

AAir_head May 27, 2007 7:23 am


Originally Posted by jwking (Post 7805335)
FWIW, I asked UA to match my AA PLT status and was told that I would be given PE for 90 day and needed to fly 12,500 miles. Luckily, one (upcoming) trip to China should take care of that.)

Sounds like UA is currently offering a challenge, not an automatic match.

At least UA will comp you the status while you are making the challenge. On AA you don't get status until you meet the mileage requirement for the challenge--so no preferred seating/boarding and no mileage bonus until the challenge is done. Granted, a non-issue if you knock it out in one trip, but something to keep in mind if you know you'll need the full 90 days to meet the challenge on short-haul trips.

I'd say UA is granting the status match and asking for a "good faith" effort on your part to show that they haven't comp'd status to someone who will only use it for one or two short-ish liesure flights vs. someone who truly intends to be a UA frequent/elite flyer.

It seems entirely reasonable to me, anyway.

cheers!

jwking May 27, 2007 7:29 am


Originally Posted by AAir_head (Post 7805368)
At least UA will comp you the status while you are making the challenge. On AA you don't get status until you meet the mileage requirement for the challenge--so no preferred seating/boarding and no mileage bonus until the challenge is done. Granted, a non-issue if you knock it out in one trip, but something to keep in mind if you know you'll need the full 90 days to meet the challenge on short-haul trips.

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It seems entirely reasonable to me, anyway.

I agree 100%. I was surprised & pleased to hear about the "interim" status.

I don't think they need to offer it, but it is a nice touch.

Markus1301 May 27, 2007 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by Markus1301 (Post 7805120)
Does anyone know if any airline does match a spanair *G member??

Markus

Just tried to warm up my question. ;)

Markus

seanp7 May 28, 2007 4:35 pm

Data Point:

Asked NWA to match my UA Prem Exec (*G) membership using the fax number provided in this thread.

12-14 days later, received an email (below) confirming Gold WorldPerks / SkyTeam Elite.

- - - - - - - - -

Dear Mr seanp7,

Thank you for contacting Northwest Airlines in regard to upgrading your
WorldPerks account, <number>

A variety of criteria, including information from your United Airlines
mileage summary, is considered when evaluating requests from members to
match elite status from another airline. After reviewing the
information provided to us on your Mileage Plus account, your Northwest
WorldPerks account has been upgraded to Gold Elite status. This
one-time complimentary membership upgrade will remain valid through
February 29, 2008.

Your credentials are now being processed and will be mailed to the
address on file. You may expect to receive your Gold Elite kit in
approximately three weeks.

In the interim, WorldPerks Elite members are now able to print off their
temporary WorldPerks reference card through nwa.com, if a PIN is
established. From the nwa.com Home Page, select WorldPerks, then Manage
My Account, then select Request a WorldPerks Reference Card, or click on
the following address at:

https://webx25.nwa.com/cgi-bin/wp_card.pro

If you have difficulties with the process, please contact our online
support group at [email protected] or 1-800-692-6955 open 24/7.

In order to requalify for the 2008 program year (01MAR08 through
28FEB09), you must accumulate the minimum elite qualifying mile or
travel the required qualifying segment thresholds through December 31,
2007. Actual flight miles must be earned on Northwest, KLM, Alaska
Airlines, Continental Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, SkyTeam Alliance
members or Northwest-designated flights operated by other WorldPerks
partner airlines. Bonus miles and partner mileage credit do not count
towards the annual elite qualification threshold.

We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from our members. We are
working hard to distinguish Northwest Airlines as a carrier of
preference and we hope you will allow us the continued privilege of
serving your air travel needs.

Sincerely,

<name>, Manager
WorldPerks Service Center

SuperFlyBoy May 28, 2007 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by seanp7 (Post 7810905)
Data Point:

Asked NWA to match my UA Prem Exec (*G) membership using the fax number provided in this thread.

12-14 days later, received an email (below) confirming Gold WorldPerks / SkyTeam Elite.

Hi Sean,

What documentation did you enclose from UA?

Was the number the same as in the beginning of the thread?

Just wanted to know, as I intend to do this myself...and which might help others do the same.

TIA!

Markus1301 May 29, 2007 1:53 am

Does the airline you want to have the status match double check with the airline you're collected miles and status?

Otherwise you could easily change status and miles in the mail you hand over to the "new" airline?!

Markus

kwoj May 29, 2007 2:58 am

Does anybody know if Starwood/Hilton/Hyatt/Mariott will match Kempinski Private Concierge ?

Thanks

jwking May 30, 2007 7:20 am

Recent UAL Prem Exec match from AA PLT
 
Public service announcement before I share my recent experience:

MANY of these status match programs/policies are ONE TIME ONLY. I would only recommend asking for a match if you REALLY plan on spending the money/time with the new airline or hotel chain. You never know when you are going to need it again!

As for me, I will be doing several trips to PEK over the next 18 months in C. With Air China's (CA) JFK-PEK route, UA's IAD-PEK route and CA's possible membership in *A, I thought it made sense. YM(or opinion)MV.
Hi jwking,

Congratulations! You have been awarded Premier Executive status in the Mileage Plus program! This will make your travel with us comfortable, simple and more rewarding than ever.

Your status will be effective for 90 days. To keep the status through February 2008, just earn 12,500 base flight miles or 15 base flight segments on United, Ted or United Express within the 90-day timeframe. Once you meet that threshold, a Premier Executive kit will be generated and mailed. Until you have a card, be sure to add your Mileage Plus number to your reservation in order to fully benefit from your elite status.

To maintain the status throughout all of 2008, you must earn 50,000 Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) or 60 Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS) by December 31, 2007. EQM and EQS are earned on United, United Express, Ted and the Star Alliance members listed below:

Adria Airways | Air Canada | Air New Zealand | All Nippon Airways | Asiana | Austrian Airlines Group | Blue1 | bmi | Croatia Airlines | LOT Airlines | Lufthansa | SAS | Singapore Airlines | South African Airways | Spanair | Swiss International Air Lines | TAP Portugal | THAI | US Airways

For details about the Mileage Plus elite program, visit www.united.com/elite. I hope you will travel with us often and experience the exceptional service and style reserved for our elite members around the world.

Thank you for choosing United, and enjoy your Premier Executive membership!
I particularly like the part that says: "To keep the status through February 2008, just earn 12,500 base flight miles or 15 base flight segments on United, Ted or United Express within the 90-day timeframe."

I have been told that their CA codeshare will count towards this total.

*fingers crossed*

seanp7 May 30, 2007 10:35 pm


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 7812100)
Hi Sean,

What documentation did you enclose from UA?

Was the number the same as in the beginning of the thread?

Just wanted to know, as I intend to do this myself...and which might help others do the same.

TIA!

Hey SuperFlyBoy - yes just followed the directions on the first page of the thread, faxed my mileage plus statement for the last year and a copy of my current card. I mentioned that I was wanting to switch my business to them.

flightline Jun 1, 2007 12:05 am

One big question hasn't been well answered, perhaps because we just aren't sure:

When should one request a match in order for the status to be valid for the entire next year? Any thoughts on DL? UA with the new 90 day thing? NW? CO?

Savage25 Jun 1, 2007 6:53 am


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 7830670)
One big question hasn't been well answered, perhaps because we just aren't sure:

When should one request a match in order for the status to be valid for the entire next year? Any thoughts on DL? UA with the new 90 day thing? NW? CO?

CO after 1 June. Officially confirmed by CO Insider.

flightline Jun 1, 2007 9:33 am


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 7830670)
One big question hasn't been well answered, perhaps because we just aren't sure:

When should one request a match in order for the status to be valid for the entire next year? Any thoughts on DL? UA with the new 90 day thing? NW? CO?

These are not necessarily reliable:

AS
Oct 1
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....25&postcount=3

US
Nov 1
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...&postcount=688

bk3day Jun 3, 2007 7:32 pm

Advice on the Timing the Best Match? (UA to/from DL)
 
In Jan 2008 I'm flying the LAX-SYD-AKL deal.

That trip will also necessitate a NYC-LAX r/t, most likely to be flown on UA to assure minimum of 2P status.

Presently, my travel is all leisure, mostly on DL from NYC-PBI.

However, in 2007 and/or 2008 I plan to make several leisure trips and/or MRs to West Coast cities (maybe SFO, SEA, PDX, LIH, ANC) and/or any other really good deals that come along)

My options appear to be:

1. Do some of those MRs by year end 2007 on DL and achieve Silver with goal to get UA 2P match prior to NZ trip.

Pro: Earn 25% RDM. on entire UA NYC-NZ trip. Increased RDMs and possibility of upgrades for all of 2008 on both UA & DL.

2.Wait until after UA NZ trip and then do UA MRs in an effort to get 1P status. Then ask DL for status match right away.

Pro: Better perks near end of 2008 & all of 2009.

3. Wait until after UA NZ trip and then do UA MRs in an effort to get 1P status. Wait to ask for DL status match until near the end of UA status term if it looks like i won't be able to requalify for 1P

4. Something You see that I missed?

Which option do you think has best chance of succeeding and carries most most benefits?

thanks

lucky9876coins Jun 3, 2007 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by bk3day (Post 7843826)
Something You see that I missed?

Do you actually plan on fully taking advantage of the benefits? It seems like you are matching for not a ton of flying. Keep in mind that this is once in a lifetime, so I would reconsider just matching for the point of matching. Personally, I would only match if I were going to requalify and switch airlines, but that's just me. Of course, if you could requalify for both next year, I would definitely consider it.

bk3day Jun 4, 2007 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 7844536)
Do you actually plan on fully taking advantage of the benefits? ...., if you could requalify for both next year, I would definitely consider it.

My plan is to take the most advantage of the NYC-NZ miles that I can. While I usually fly coach, I do plan on making several transcon trips in 2007 and/or 2008.

At the very least, by the end of Jan 2008, I will qualify for at least 2P status with UA.

The 1st question is whether to do some 2007 MRs on Delta for the purpose of matching status pre-NYC to NZ?

That would give me the extra 25% RDM bonus for the NYC - NZ trp.

However, that will use up my 1 shot at a UA status match and lock me in to the lowest level status on BOTH UA and DL.

Chances are that by the end of 2008, I will requal for 1 but probably not both programs.

OTOH, if I don't do the 2007 DL -> UA match, wait and spend 2008 working towards goal of 1P on UA, I can instead *hopefully* match to a higher status on DL.

What does a 1P match get you from DL?

If I go that way, I'm not sure whether to take immediate advantage of the DL match or wait til I'm about to lose my UA 1P status before approaching DL.

any thoughts on the best strategy?

bk3day Jun 6, 2007 1:22 pm

If you have status, can you up it a level by a match?
 
for example, if i have silver status on DL, can I do a match using a UA 1P and bump the DL silver up to gold?

e6toeknee Jun 7, 2007 11:25 am

Alaska Airlines fax # listed on 1st post (206-433-3477) verified today. Sent in my UA 1P mileage summary on Tuesday. I checked the web site today and it says MVP Gold!
Have a few flights scheduled on Alaska this summer and I'm hoping that my new MVP Gold status will get me into first class.
I wonder though if I had waited until July to status match, if I would also have qualified for MVP Gold for 2008 as well, but didn't want to cut it too close to my flight dates. Didn't expect a 48 hour turnaround time.

gobluetwo Jun 12, 2007 8:30 am

just to summarize the DL --> UA status match rules now in place (just got off the phone with a guy in India):

2P: must be Silver Medallion (FO) and fly 6,250 miles or 8 segments within 90 days of email confirmation. email confirmation is sent within 5 days of them receiving a copy of your latest MP statement (with status shown) to fax number 605-343-4104.

1P: must be Gold/Platinum Medallion (GM/PM) and fly 12,500 miles or 15 segments within 90 days of email confirmation. email confirmation is sent within 5 days of them receiving a copy of your latest MP statement (with status shown) to fax number 605-343-4104.

matched status lasts through Feb 2008. In order to have status through all of 2008, must earn 25k (for 2P) or 50k (for 1P) by 12/31/2007. i didn't think to ask (and honestly wasn't sure he'd understand if i asked) if people trying to match 1P and didn't make it would still be granted 2P.

anyway, it's not just a simple status match - there is a catch. the funny thing is that this guy called it a "promotion." not.

BOSton Traveller Jun 12, 2007 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins (Post 7844536)
Do you actually plan on fully taking advantage of the benefits? It seems like you are matching for not a ton of flying. Keep in mind that this is once in a lifetime, so I would reconsider just matching for the point of matching. Personally, I would only match if I were going to requalify and switch airlines, but that's just me. Of course, if you could requalify for both next year, I would definitely consider it.

Not always. I moved a lot years ago, change address and tried to resubmit for match status. Used new acct number and new address got status mathc again. It just doesnt work for same account, change accounts no problem!

gleff Jun 13, 2007 1:50 am

Multiple accounts is generally against the rules of the programs. You may get away with it, you may not, but not sure it's something I'd be comfortable with in either case.

lucky9876coins Jun 13, 2007 2:00 am


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 7894759)
Multiple accounts is generally against the rules of the programs. You may get away with it, you may not, but not sure it's something I'd be comfortable with in either case.

You mean uncomfortable with? The worst that could have happen is that they close your account and take away all your miles, right, or would they even do that? If so, and one has little stake in the airline, the match could still potentially make sense, I guess...

gleff Jun 13, 2007 2:05 am

Fair enough, I'm not preaching or debating a 'correct' morality, we all have a moral sense to be comfortable with even when it comes to FF programs. And abandoning old accounts, opening new ones, in order to get a second (or third!) status match just feels over some line for me. YMMV. (And it could just be that I've been up most of the night. ;) )

lucky9876coins Jun 13, 2007 2:10 am


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 7894791)
Fair enough, I'm not preaching or debating a 'correct' morality, we all have a moral sense to be comfortable with even when it comes to FF programs. And abandoning old accounts, opening new ones, in order to get a second (or third!) status match just feels over some line for me. YMMV. (And it could just be that I've been up most of the night. ;) )

Oh, completely agree with you there. Sorry, I didn't realize that's what you were saying with your post... I also should get to bed eventually.:o

bearteacher Jun 19, 2007 8:28 pm

UA 1K to match TG
 
Does anyone have the experience of using UA membership to match TG's? I plan to try and would like to the possibility.

Thanks.


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