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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
May 17, 2009, 7:47 am
#331
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,546
1. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) be refunded and converted back into hotel points?
2. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) for Category 7 be upgraded to a Category 8 certificate? If yes, is the cost 30,000 (difference between new Cat7 and new Cat8 packages) or is the cost 90,000 (diference between old Cat7 and new Cat8)?
2. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) for Category 7 be upgraded to a Category 8 certificate? If yes, is the cost 30,000 (difference between new Cat7 and new Cat8 packages) or is the cost 90,000 (diference between old Cat7 and new Cat8)?
Last edited by Colin; May 17, 2009 at 10:05 am
May 17, 2009, 10:01 am
#332
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1. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) be refunded and converted back into hotel points?
2. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) for Category 7 be upgraded to a Category 8 certificate? If yes, is the cost 30,000 (difference between old Cat7 and Cat8 packages) or is the cost 90,000 (diference between old Cat7 and new Cat8)?
2. Can the travel package hotel certificate (ordered in 2008, not used) for Category 7 be upgraded to a Category 8 certificate? If yes, is the cost 30,000 (difference between old Cat7 and Cat8 packages) or is the cost 90,000 (diference between old Cat7 and new Cat8)?
No category upgrades at old point levels unless Marriott decides to make an exception for you. And there was no cat. 8 last year anyway.
Jun 28, 2009, 5:12 am
#333
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 2,324
Travel Package Cancelation Question
I have had to cancel the Hotel part of a travel package. I did this on line.
How long untill the points are back in my Marriot Account ??
( I did search but could not find an awnser.)
Any help appreciated.
How long untill the points are back in my Marriot Account ??
( I did search but could not find an awnser.)
Any help appreciated.
Jun 28, 2009, 5:58 am
#334
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If you ordered TP award, then the hotel award e-cert will go back into your account, not the points. If you want to exchange the hotel portion back to Marriott for points, you have to call MR and ask them to do that.
The amount of points you will get back is dependent on a few variables (category of hotel and # of airline miles redeemed). Basically, the more airline miles you ordered for your TP award, the less points you will get back for the hotel portion. In fact, I think if you ordered a Cat.1-5 hotel e-cert and 120K airline miles, you will only get back something along 10K Marriott points. Give MR a call and they can tell you the exact number of points you will get back.
The moral of the story though is that you will not get back anywhere close to the number of points that it would have cost you to order the hotel award by itself. (This is due to most of the cost to Marriott in the TP award coming from the airline miles transfer.) So you are probably much better off keeping the hotel e-cert in your account and looking at future vacations/stays that you might be able to use it at.
Here is a thread where this is discussed more thoroughly: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...l-package.html
The amount of points you will get back is dependent on a few variables (category of hotel and # of airline miles redeemed). Basically, the more airline miles you ordered for your TP award, the less points you will get back for the hotel portion. In fact, I think if you ordered a Cat.1-5 hotel e-cert and 120K airline miles, you will only get back something along 10K Marriott points. Give MR a call and they can tell you the exact number of points you will get back.
The moral of the story though is that you will not get back anywhere close to the number of points that it would have cost you to order the hotel award by itself. (This is due to most of the cost to Marriott in the TP award coming from the airline miles transfer.) So you are probably much better off keeping the hotel e-cert in your account and looking at future vacations/stays that you might be able to use it at.
Here is a thread where this is discussed more thoroughly: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...l-package.html
Jun 29, 2009, 12:57 pm
#336
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AA,DL,BA,UA,SPG, and any other free trip!
Posts: 1,803
Book with package on UAL or Separately?
I need to go to the DC area Oct 30th-Nov 1st, and wanted to know if its better to book a vacation pkg via UAL.com which includes the Marriott property I need to stay at....or is it better just to book the flight and hotel separately, as with the vacation pkg, doesn't look like i get a free breakfast.....and I saw a code for free breakfast on the thread above in the public codes.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Jun 29, 2009, 1:19 pm
#337
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle WA.
Programs: UA MM/Gold, MC Plat., Star Plat.
Posts: 94
Check it out!
I would at least price it on your own. Often I find no deal in the vacation packages offered by many of the airlines. See if you can beat the price by doing the seperate parts and adding them up. I beleive you will lose the points for the Marriott stay also when booked thru a third party, as well as your other benefits. Call the hotel direct and ask for help with their best rate.
These packages are a better deal when everything is full, they sometimes have blocked space at a lower rate, but you have lots of advance time.
These packages are a better deal when everything is full, they sometimes have blocked space at a lower rate, but you have lots of advance time.
Jun 29, 2009, 1:39 pm
#338
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My experience with 3rd party packages has been that the stays do not earn points, but my elite benefits (e.g. lounge access) were honored as usual.
Jun 29, 2009, 1:42 pm
#339
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PDX
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Posts: 1,803
priced out
when pricing it on ual.com/vacations, a stay at the Fairview Park Marriott , RT airfare PDX-IAD, economy car = $1220.xx
Priced airfare separately comes out to $621.xx alone for one of us and I havent even priced out the hotel and car yet.......so far the package takes the cake.
However, I dont know if the package deal includes a breakfast
Priced airfare separately comes out to $621.xx alone for one of us and I havent even priced out the hotel and car yet.......so far the package takes the cake.
However, I dont know if the package deal includes a breakfast
Jun 29, 2009, 1:43 pm
#340
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I have 0 pts anyways with Marriott....but I have 50K miles accrued with UAL...so I think i should be getting extra bonus miles for using their respective partners...no?
Jun 29, 2009, 2:31 pm
#341
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Marriott does not award any elite or award credit, points or miles, for stays booked thru third parties (either as a travel package or just the room alone).
If you want to drive a bit, I would consider checking flights to RIC. It will add to your travel time, but you will probably save about $200/ticket. One route shows a R/T of $325.40 (PDX-ORD-RIC-IAD-PDX) with an arrival time of 11:54 pm on the 30th and a departure time of 3 pm on the 1st. An earlier outbound flight costs $400.40 and gets you into RIC at 5:55 pm.
You could get a car rental for at most $100 and 2 nights at the Fairview Park Marriott for about $69/night with a AAA rate. Breakfast costs $13.95+ 5 % tax + tip for each person. The AAA rate + breakfast for two is less than the rate including breakfast ($109/night).
Marriott points do not expire, and you can transfer them to other members in 1,000 point increments for free (you need to get permission from Marriott).
If you want to drive a bit, I would consider checking flights to RIC. It will add to your travel time, but you will probably save about $200/ticket. One route shows a R/T of $325.40 (PDX-ORD-RIC-IAD-PDX) with an arrival time of 11:54 pm on the 30th and a departure time of 3 pm on the 1st. An earlier outbound flight costs $400.40 and gets you into RIC at 5:55 pm.
You could get a car rental for at most $100 and 2 nights at the Fairview Park Marriott for about $69/night with a AAA rate. Breakfast costs $13.95+ 5 % tax + tip for each person. The AAA rate + breakfast for two is less than the rate including breakfast ($109/night).
Marriott points do not expire, and you can transfer them to other members in 1,000 point increments for free (you need to get permission from Marriott).
Jul 9, 2009, 10:33 am
#342
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4
Travel Package Redemption Question Re Flight
I want to redeem one of the travel packages for 120k miles, but am not decided on which hotel I would like to stay in yet. I'm thinking I will want a cat 6 / 7 / or 8 level hotel. Probably not 8 though unless I can talk the hubby into Rome.
So, here's my question. Right now I have 290k points, but I'm looking to travel next May (2010). I know Marriott won't put my ff points into that bank until I have enough complete points. Am I better off booking ANY hotel category 5 or lower for the moment until I get enough points to get the hotel I want and then change? Will I then only have to pay the point difference or will I get refunded a partial amount and loose hotel points?
The reason I want to do this is that US Air (* alliance member) is having a special. If you transfer X points, you get an extra 50% of points for free. But, that offer is only good until the end of the month........It seems way too good to pass up.
Thank you for your help and time.
So, here's my question. Right now I have 290k points, but I'm looking to travel next May (2010). I know Marriott won't put my ff points into that bank until I have enough complete points. Am I better off booking ANY hotel category 5 or lower for the moment until I get enough points to get the hotel I want and then change? Will I then only have to pay the point difference or will I get refunded a partial amount and loose hotel points?
The reason I want to do this is that US Air (* alliance member) is having a special. If you transfer X points, you get an extra 50% of points for free. But, that offer is only good until the end of the month........It seems way too good to pass up.
Thank you for your help and time.
Jul 10, 2009, 1:30 pm
#343
Join Date: Feb 2009
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I am not sure you need to pick the hotel as it says:
Reward Delivery Information
Hotel certificate will be issued electronically and will be available at the hotel upon check-in.
So that might mean you can deposit the e-cert into your account and make the reservation when you want. However, I bet that if you ordered a 6 cat and only used a 5, they would not refund the difference in points.
But this is an instance where you need to call the elite line and ask.
Reward Delivery Information
Hotel certificate will be issued electronically and will be available at the hotel upon check-in.
So that might mean you can deposit the e-cert into your account and make the reservation when you want. However, I bet that if you ordered a 6 cat and only used a 5, they would not refund the difference in points.
But this is an instance where you need to call the elite line and ask.
Jul 10, 2009, 10:59 pm
#344
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I think the OP is saying he has the points right now for a Cat 5, but might later actually want to stay at a Cat 6 or 7. Could he then just pony up the extra 30k or whatever and book the Cat 6 hotel? The 120k US would have been converted long in the past (e.g., now) and the Cat 5 e-cert would be sitting in his account.
I honestly don't know. I've redeemed Cat 6 Travel Packages without a clue what hotel I was going to visit. In the end, I actually picked a Cat 6. This was when 7 was the top, and I knew we weren't going to NYC or London, so I figured 6 was safe. I think if I booked a TP blind now, I'd book 7 if I had the points.
I'm pretty sure you don't get a refund if you book a category down, but I don't know if Marriott makes it easy for you to add a few points and book a category up.
I honestly don't know. I've redeemed Cat 6 Travel Packages without a clue what hotel I was going to visit. In the end, I actually picked a Cat 6. This was when 7 was the top, and I knew we weren't going to NYC or London, so I figured 6 was safe. I think if I booked a TP blind now, I'd book 7 if I had the points.
I'm pretty sure you don't get a refund if you book a category down, but I don't know if Marriott makes it easy for you to add a few points and book a category up.
Jul 11, 2009, 4:11 am
#345
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Before the packages changed, it used to be that you could buy a cat 1-5 package, then "buy up" to a cat 6 or 7 if I needed it.
As far as I know, this is still possible. However, you can't buy up if you have an "old" travel package - just the new ones.
Billy
As far as I know, this is still possible. However, you can't buy up if you have an "old" travel package - just the new ones.
Billy