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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jan 10, 2009, 10:25 am
#316
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,210
Because there has been a lot of confusion about the sampler reward I would like to take a step back and try to clarify some things which I think will help answer your questions. First, the Hawaiian, and UK/Ireland sampler rewards will be discontinued after the 15th. However, rewards issued prior to this change will be valid until their expiration date (one year from the date they are issued). Similarly these sampler rewards can be issued after the 15th if they are being issued to honor a reservation made before the 15th. If you are planning to use any reward on the current reward schedule but are waiting for points to post. Make your reservation now and then order the reward anytime before your stay.
If a travel package or sampler reward from the current schedule is issued after the 15th in order to honor a reservation made before the 15th. It will have a final expiration date on or near January 14, 2010. (We do not have the exact date yet but it will be in January of 2010)
For example: if I made a reservation for July 7, 2009 in November 2008 and I was planning to use a sampler reward or travel package, I could order the package or sampler in June of 2009 but the expiration date would still be January 2010.
If a travel package or sampler reward from the current schedule is issued after the 15th in order to honor a reservation made before the 15th. It will have a final expiration date on or near January 14, 2010. (We do not have the exact date yet but it will be in January of 2010)
For example: if I made a reservation for July 7, 2009 in November 2008 and I was planning to use a sampler reward or travel package, I could order the package or sampler in June of 2009 but the expiration date would still be January 2010.
1. So is it really, for sure true if I want to get 1 cat. 5 or 6 t.p. but don't have quite enough points for it by the 14th that I can still reserve the package without ordering it (i.e., having the airline miles transferred)? I previously thought everything had to be ordered by the 14th of Jan.
2. I have a diliemna. I want to get a London package for a stay in Oct. I have at least 2 properties in mind, one is and will be a cat. 7 the other is a cat. 7 and will be a cat. 8. In this case it seems you are saying that I've got to order it by the 14th, and stick with my one choice no matter what NO DATE CHANGES, NO HOTEL PROPERTY CHANGE, and you lose most of your points permanently if you can't stick exactly to a plan made in Jan. for late 2009). Is this right? If so, I think this is an unreasonably stringent restriction and I hope Marriott will reconsider. For example, at least letting me make the hotel reservations at both of the London properties and choosing which one I want to keep later.
Jan 10, 2009, 2:48 pm
#317
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: South America
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM - Marriott Silver
Posts: 353
For now, I have a couple of more questions, there's probably more to come later I am afraid.
1. So is it really, for sure true if I want to get 1 cat. 5 or 6 t.p. but don't have quite enough points for it by the 14th that I can still reserve the package without ordering it (i.e., having the airline miles transferred)? I previously thought everything had to be ordered by the 14th of Jan.
2. I have a diliemna. I want to get a London package for a stay in Oct. I have at least 2 properties in mind, one is and will be a cat. 7 the other is a cat. 7 and will be a cat. 8. In this case it seems you are saying that I've got to order it by the 14th, and stick with my one choice no matter what NO DATE CHANGES, NO HOTEL PROPERTY CHANGE, and you lose most of your points permanently if you can't stick exactly to a plan made in Jan. for late 2009). Is this right? If so, I think this is an unreasonably stringent restriction and I hope Marriott will reconsider. For example, at least letting me make the hotel reservations at both of the London properties and choosing which one I want to keep later.
1. So is it really, for sure true if I want to get 1 cat. 5 or 6 t.p. but don't have quite enough points for it by the 14th that I can still reserve the package without ordering it (i.e., having the airline miles transferred)? I previously thought everything had to be ordered by the 14th of Jan.
2. I have a diliemna. I want to get a London package for a stay in Oct. I have at least 2 properties in mind, one is and will be a cat. 7 the other is a cat. 7 and will be a cat. 8. In this case it seems you are saying that I've got to order it by the 14th, and stick with my one choice no matter what NO DATE CHANGES, NO HOTEL PROPERTY CHANGE, and you lose most of your points permanently if you can't stick exactly to a plan made in Jan. for late 2009). Is this right? If so, I think this is an unreasonably stringent restriction and I hope Marriott will reconsider. For example, at least letting me make the hotel reservations at both of the London properties and choosing which one I want to keep later.
Jan 10, 2009, 3:09 pm
#318
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Sun City, CA, USA
Programs: AA,UA,HH,Marriott
Posts: 398
Why am I so confused...still? I see questions about the miles/hotel/car travel packages, and then answers, talking about the "sampler packages". Are the rules the same? I have a Cat 6 travel package that is good until 1/10/10. Do I have to reserve the hotel now to avoid paying more points?
Jan 10, 2009, 7:33 pm
#319
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: The Golden State
Programs: UAL, Marriott, Skymiles, AAdvantage, trueBlue, Starwood Preferred Guest, Hyatt,Leaders Club, Alaska
Posts: 493
clarifying question regarding burning my points..
I have 340k points and want to burn them with a reservation before January 15th.
Here are my questions:
1. If I get two rooms for 5 nights in 2009, and then want to change the date to a different date in 09, do I have to start over using the new point structure?
2. Am I right in that I can go ahead and make multiple reservations, saying that I'll use my points, then pick and choose which dates I want to use them with..without an penalty?
Thank you!
Here are my questions:
1. If I get two rooms for 5 nights in 2009, and then want to change the date to a different date in 09, do I have to start over using the new point structure?
2. Am I right in that I can go ahead and make multiple reservations, saying that I'll use my points, then pick and choose which dates I want to use them with..without an penalty?
Thank you!
Jan 10, 2009, 7:33 pm
#320
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: South America
Programs: AA Platinum 1MM - Marriott Silver
Posts: 353
Why am I so confused...still? I see questions about the miles/hotel/car travel packages, and then answers, talking about the "sampler packages". Are the rules the same? I have a Cat 6 travel package that is good until 1/10/10. Do I have to reserve the hotel now to avoid paying more points?
Last edited by frisbeeace; Jan 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Jan 10, 2009, 7:41 pm
#321
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Carlsbad,CA USA
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Titanuim/Lifetime Platinum, Hilton Gold, United Silver
Posts: 1,534
I booked a stay for September at the Marriott in PAris that will become a category 8. I don't have enough points in my account now, but will earn enough in the next few months or can transfer the points from my wife's account. Can I wait to get the reward certificate after Jan 15 or should I transfer the points and get it now.
Jan 11, 2009, 3:55 pm
#322
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: UA 1K, MR Plat, HH Gold
Posts: 179
thanks for keeping this thread up to date.
I'm looking forward to using my Europe Hopper awards in March!
I'm looking forward to using my Europe Hopper awards in March!
Jan 12, 2009, 10:26 am
#323
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: MR Platinum Premier, HH Silver, National Exec Elite, USAirways Silver
Posts: 148
Just FYI
Jan 13, 2009, 9:04 am
#324
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,210
Folks,
Not having time to update the above summary of policies regarding the transitional period handling of travel packages and samplers now, I'm just going to direct you over to the original thread where marriott announced these changes, Marriott Concierge answers in the last day or so I find to be really helpful, start reading especially on page 34 of that thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...d-ugly-34.html
This is mainly coming down to, as far as I understand it, the fact that you need to have your reservations and backup reservations in place for travel packages by the 1/14/09; this is not necessary for the samplers you ordered. An interesting suggestion by Marriott Concierge in the above thread about another way to line up an Hawaiian sampler, get your reservations in place by the 14th, order afterwards (rather than the reverse; personally I would only do this if I did not have the points I needed yet.)
Not having time to update the above summary of policies regarding the transitional period handling of travel packages and samplers now, I'm just going to direct you over to the original thread where marriott announced these changes, Marriott Concierge answers in the last day or so I find to be really helpful, start reading especially on page 34 of that thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...d-ugly-34.html
This is mainly coming down to, as far as I understand it, the fact that you need to have your reservations and backup reservations in place for travel packages by the 1/14/09; this is not necessary for the samplers you ordered. An interesting suggestion by Marriott Concierge in the above thread about another way to line up an Hawaiian sampler, get your reservations in place by the 14th, order afterwards (rather than the reverse; personally I would only do this if I did not have the points I needed yet.)
Jan 14, 2009, 12:19 am
#325
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 43
When must a travel package be "ATTACHED" to a reservation?
Wow - I never thought I could be so confused. This has probably been asked and answered and if so, I apologize. But I can't find this info anywhere and I'm starting to panic. Please feel free to point me to another post if needed.
FIRST: I ordered a Cat 7 travel package 3 days ago. The airline miles have posted to my FF account. I have made a reservation at the Wailea Marriott for end of March using the standard, 150k 7 night award (did this over the phone with the hotel's reservation clerk). However, the reservation listed on my Marriott account page simply says that I will need to order a certificate before the stay. Does this mean that the 7 night certificate portion of the travel package has not been "attached" to this reservation? If not, at what point (if ever) does it have to be "attached"? Or do I simply show up when I check in with the certificate in hand?
SECOND: To make things even more confusing, I may have to change my plans for Hawaii and use the certificate in Paris in mid March - where the hotel will be changing to Cat 8. As a backup, I made an online reservation at the Renaissance Vendome for a standard, 150k 7 night reservation. Again, my account simply states to be sure I order the certificate before my stay. Since this will become Cat 8, do I need to call before tomorrow to "attach" this reservation to the paper certificate. Or can I simply show up at the hotel with the Cat 7 certificate in hand and proof that my reservation was made before the 1/15 deadline? I'm getting nervous...
HELP!
FIRST: I ordered a Cat 7 travel package 3 days ago. The airline miles have posted to my FF account. I have made a reservation at the Wailea Marriott for end of March using the standard, 150k 7 night award (did this over the phone with the hotel's reservation clerk). However, the reservation listed on my Marriott account page simply says that I will need to order a certificate before the stay. Does this mean that the 7 night certificate portion of the travel package has not been "attached" to this reservation? If not, at what point (if ever) does it have to be "attached"? Or do I simply show up when I check in with the certificate in hand?
SECOND: To make things even more confusing, I may have to change my plans for Hawaii and use the certificate in Paris in mid March - where the hotel will be changing to Cat 8. As a backup, I made an online reservation at the Renaissance Vendome for a standard, 150k 7 night reservation. Again, my account simply states to be sure I order the certificate before my stay. Since this will become Cat 8, do I need to call before tomorrow to "attach" this reservation to the paper certificate. Or can I simply show up at the hotel with the Cat 7 certificate in hand and proof that my reservation was made before the 1/15 deadline? I'm getting nervous...
HELP!
Jan 14, 2009, 8:59 am
#326
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,210
gogogo, part of the problem here is that the Marriott Rewards folks still have not completely worked out all of the details of their policy for what I'm calling now the transitional travel packages - booked under the old point system for use in 2009. Just yesterday a Marriott Rewards rep told me I had to order the package by today; totally contradictory to what Marriott Concierge and some other Marriott Rewards reps told me. I have been advised to make the res and backup res, then actually order (Have the points deducted) when I am sure as I can be of which hotel res I actually want to use.
I'm nervous also, but I've got to rely on what MC has told us. I think you are ok with your backup res in place, but you really need to wait to hear from them. Or try getting this reconfirmed by a supervisor in Marriott Rewards today. Note the time of your call and who you spoke to.
I'm nervous also, but I've got to rely on what MC has told us. I think you are ok with your backup res in place, but you really need to wait to hear from them. Or try getting this reconfirmed by a supervisor in Marriott Rewards today. Note the time of your call and who you spoke to.
Jan 14, 2009, 11:43 am
#327
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 43
The fact that the Marriott Rewards people don't even know the rules is what concerns me most. I get a different answer every time I call. At this point I think I'll just hope for the best.
Jan 14, 2009, 11:59 am
#328
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
GRIZSHEL OR ANYONE ELSE --
Let me repeat what I think Ira is telling us on this board and in PMs, and I ask for your critique of it.
First, I am only talking about the 7 night travel packages, not the hotel samplers.
As I understand it, we need only to make an old points reservation by tonight.
I am not even sure if we need to have the points in our account, but that is not a problem for me, as I have enough points. In fact, I have made two 7 night stay reservations over Christmas under the OLD point schedule for what will become Category 8 hotels.
Now, I think Ira is saying that is all we need to do right now.
At some later point we can then order an OLD Category 7 travel package (at less points than the new ones that come into force tomorrow) -- until what date in the future we must do this by is unfortunately left unsaid by Ira -- should we wish to utilize the reward reservation we have booked prior to 1/15/09.
Should we wish to utilize that reward reservation, we will be able to substitute in the hotel portion of the OLD travel package, and have the points holding that reservation under the old rates go back into my account (since I am holding the reservation with points) or not, if the MR member is allowed to hold the 7 night award booked under the old schedule without sufficient points.
If we do not wish to utilize the reservation, we need not order the Old travel Package and the points holding the reward reservation (or not, if permitted) will just go back into our account, like any cancelled hotel award reservation operates.
Is this correct, as you understand it?
Let me repeat what I think Ira is telling us on this board and in PMs, and I ask for your critique of it.
First, I am only talking about the 7 night travel packages, not the hotel samplers.
As I understand it, we need only to make an old points reservation by tonight.
I am not even sure if we need to have the points in our account, but that is not a problem for me, as I have enough points. In fact, I have made two 7 night stay reservations over Christmas under the OLD point schedule for what will become Category 8 hotels.
Now, I think Ira is saying that is all we need to do right now.
At some later point we can then order an OLD Category 7 travel package (at less points than the new ones that come into force tomorrow) -- until what date in the future we must do this by is unfortunately left unsaid by Ira -- should we wish to utilize the reward reservation we have booked prior to 1/15/09.
Should we wish to utilize that reward reservation, we will be able to substitute in the hotel portion of the OLD travel package, and have the points holding that reservation under the old rates go back into my account (since I am holding the reservation with points) or not, if the MR member is allowed to hold the 7 night award booked under the old schedule without sufficient points.
If we do not wish to utilize the reservation, we need not order the Old travel Package and the points holding the reward reservation (or not, if permitted) will just go back into our account, like any cancelled hotel award reservation operates.
Is this correct, as you understand it?
Last edited by NJUPINTHEAIR; Jan 14, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Jan 14, 2009, 12:30 pm
#329
Company Representative - Marriott Concierge
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,083
Wow - I never thought I could be so confused. This has probably been asked and answered and if so, I apologize. But I can't find this info anywhere and I'm starting to panic. Please feel free to point me to another post if needed.
FIRST: I ordered a Cat 7 travel package 3 days ago. The airline miles have posted to my FF account. I have made a reservation at the Wailea Marriott for end of March using the standard, 150k 7 night award (did this over the phone with the hotel's reservation clerk). However, the reservation listed on my Marriott account page simply says that I will need to order a certificate before the stay. Does this mean that the 7 night certificate portion of the travel package has not been "attached" to this reservation? If not, at what point (if ever) does it have to be "attached"? Or do I simply show up when I check in with the certificate in hand?
SECOND: To make things even more confusing, I may have to change my plans for Hawaii and use the certificate in Paris in mid March - where the hotel will be changing to Cat 8. As a backup, I made an online reservation at the Renaissance Vendome for a standard, 150k 7 night reservation. Again, my account simply states to be sure I order the certificate before my stay. Since this will become Cat 8, do I need to call before tomorrow to "attach" this reservation to the paper certificate. Or can I simply show up at the hotel with the Cat 7 certificate in hand and proof that my reservation was made before the 1/15 deadline? I'm getting nervous...
HELP!
FIRST: I ordered a Cat 7 travel package 3 days ago. The airline miles have posted to my FF account. I have made a reservation at the Wailea Marriott for end of March using the standard, 150k 7 night award (did this over the phone with the hotel's reservation clerk). However, the reservation listed on my Marriott account page simply says that I will need to order a certificate before the stay. Does this mean that the 7 night certificate portion of the travel package has not been "attached" to this reservation? If not, at what point (if ever) does it have to be "attached"? Or do I simply show up when I check in with the certificate in hand?
SECOND: To make things even more confusing, I may have to change my plans for Hawaii and use the certificate in Paris in mid March - where the hotel will be changing to Cat 8. As a backup, I made an online reservation at the Renaissance Vendome for a standard, 150k 7 night reservation. Again, my account simply states to be sure I order the certificate before my stay. Since this will become Cat 8, do I need to call before tomorrow to "attach" this reservation to the paper certificate. Or can I simply show up at the hotel with the Cat 7 certificate in hand and proof that my reservation was made before the 1/15 deadline? I'm getting nervous...
HELP!
Your reservation for Paris sounds fine. As long as it was made for reward redemption before the 15th it does not matter when you order the reward, you are locked into the category 7 price.
Ira
Jan 14, 2009, 5:14 pm
#330
Company Representative - Marriott Concierge
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,083
GRIZSHEL OR ANYONE ELSE --
Let me repeat what I think Ira is telling us on this board and in PMs, and I ask for your critique of it.
First, I am only talking about the 7 night travel packages, not the hotel samplers.
As I understand it, we need only to make an old points reservation by tonight.
I am not even sure if we need to have the points in our account, but that is not a problem for me, as I have enough points. In fact, I have made two 7 night stay reservations over Christmas under the OLD point schedule for what will become Category 8 hotels.
Now, I think Ira is saying that is all we need to do right now.
At some later point we can then order an OLD Category 7 travel package (at less points than the new ones that come into force tomorrow) -- until what date in the future we must do this by is unfortunately left unsaid by Ira -- should we wish to utilize the reward reservation we have booked prior to 1/15/09.
Should we wish to utilize that reward reservation, we will be able to substitute in the hotel portion of the OLD travel package, and have the points holding that reservation under the old rates go back into my account (since I am holding the reservation with points) or not, if the MR member is allowed to hold the 7 night award booked under the old schedule without sufficient points.
If we do not wish to utilize the reservation, we need not order the Old travel Package and the points holding the reward reservation (or not, if permitted) will just go back into our account, like any cancelled hotel award reservation operates.
Is this correct, as you understand it?
Let me repeat what I think Ira is telling us on this board and in PMs, and I ask for your critique of it.
First, I am only talking about the 7 night travel packages, not the hotel samplers.
As I understand it, we need only to make an old points reservation by tonight.
I am not even sure if we need to have the points in our account, but that is not a problem for me, as I have enough points. In fact, I have made two 7 night stay reservations over Christmas under the OLD point schedule for what will become Category 8 hotels.
Now, I think Ira is saying that is all we need to do right now.
At some later point we can then order an OLD Category 7 travel package (at less points than the new ones that come into force tomorrow) -- until what date in the future we must do this by is unfortunately left unsaid by Ira -- should we wish to utilize the reward reservation we have booked prior to 1/15/09.
Should we wish to utilize that reward reservation, we will be able to substitute in the hotel portion of the OLD travel package, and have the points holding that reservation under the old rates go back into my account (since I am holding the reservation with points) or not, if the MR member is allowed to hold the 7 night award booked under the old schedule without sufficient points.
If we do not wish to utilize the reservation, we need not order the Old travel Package and the points holding the reward reservation (or not, if permitted) will just go back into our account, like any cancelled hotel award reservation operates.
Is this correct, as you understand it?
If you have already ordered the travel package you do not need to make the reservation tonight. Of course it is always best to make your reservation as soon as you know where and when you are staying, but the point is, if you have a travel package in your account it will be good for any reward redemption stay (matching the category of hotel the package is issued) regardless of if the reservation was made before or after the 15th.
Making the reservation tonight becomes important if you are planning to use the certificate at a hotel that is becoming a category 8, and it is also important if you do not have enough points in your account yet to order the reward. Booking the reservation tonight will make it possible for you to order the cheaper rewards anytime before your stay.
Ira