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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jan 4, 2008, 1:09 am
#166
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: More than I care to have, but never the ones I need.
Posts: 259
I agree that these travel packages are by FAR the best deal with MR.
Mr. Vker:
Were you able to get Marriott to transfer more than 120k points to the airline of your choice - or did you already have a lot of points at the airline of your choice? Two international F seats surely took more than 120K FF points.
Mr. Vker:
Were you able to get Marriott to transfer more than 120k points to the airline of your choice - or did you already have a lot of points at the airline of your choice? Two international F seats surely took more than 120K FF points.
Jan 4, 2008, 2:54 am
#167
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium (former PP), Hilton Silver, UA Silver, AS Member, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,906
I think Mr. Vker transferred 120,000 miles with each package. Since he redeemed two packages, he was able to receive 240,000 miles. You are not able to redeem more than 120,000 miles for a travel package (regarding the miles in which most major American carriers participate in).
Jan 4, 2008, 5:49 am
#168
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,077
YES! ^
I earn 18 points per dollar spent at FS Marriott properties (10 + 3 Plat Bonus + 5 MR VISA). So when I use a Hotel+Air Travel Package I effectively get 18 airline MILES of my choice per dollar spent. I don't think you can find a better earning ratio ANYWHERE. So really the answer would be YES, this is the best value for any points or mile earning of ANY program. JMHO, well maybe not so humble.
I earn 18 points per dollar spent at FS Marriott properties (10 + 3 Plat Bonus + 5 MR VISA). So when I use a Hotel+Air Travel Package I effectively get 18 airline MILES of my choice per dollar spent. I don't think you can find a better earning ratio ANYWHERE. So really the answer would be YES, this is the best value for any points or mile earning of ANY program. JMHO, well maybe not so humble.
Jan 4, 2008, 7:10 am
#169
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
I do believe there are some here that try to wait until Marriott has one of these bonuses before they order the award. The problem with that is that there is no 'official' time schedule for them or any real indication of which airline's program that Marriott will have a bonus for. So those persons use history, guessing, and just plain waiting.
Jan 4, 2008, 8:26 am
#170
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,077
I do believe there are some here that try to wait until Marriott has one of these bonuses before they order the award. The problem with that is that there is no 'official' time schedule for them or any real indication of which airline's program that Marriott will have a bonus for. So those persons use history, guessing, and just plain waiting.
Or another reason to make award reservations through an agent and not have the points deducted.
Last edited by aaupgrade; Jan 4, 2008 at 8:36 am
Jan 4, 2008, 2:33 pm
#171
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,468
I agree that these travel packages are by FAR the best deal with MR.
Mr. Vker:
Were you able to get Marriott to transfer more than 120k points to the airline of your choice - or did you already have a lot of points at the airline of your choice? Two international F seats surely took more than 120K FF points.
Mr. Vker:
Were you able to get Marriott to transfer more than 120k points to the airline of your choice - or did you already have a lot of points at the airline of your choice? Two international F seats surely took more than 120K FF points.
1) Cat 6 Hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 250,000 points
2) cat 7 hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 270,000 points
We had the other 30K miles already on AA. That equalled the entire 270k miles needed.
The plane tickets are worth approx $28000.00 not including the (2) 7 night stays.
We leave in just 5 weeks. ^^
Jan 4, 2008, 3:44 pm
#172
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
The TP's are the main reason I do my hotel stays at Marriott. I'm about to cash another one. I'm on the fence about switching to Starwood for 2008 (reasons unrelated to the points or awards themselves), and if I do I will definitely miss the TP's. Starwood's version of the TP (Nights and Flights) is actually a weaker award than a straight 5-night Starwood award.
Jan 5, 2008, 11:11 pm
#173
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,468
We cashed in as follows:
1) Cat 6 Hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 250,000 points
2) cat 7 hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 270,000 points
We had the other 30K miles already on AA. That equalled the entire 270k miles needed.
The plane tickets are worth approx $28000.00 not including the (2) 7 night stays.
We leave in just 5 weeks. ^^
1) Cat 6 Hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 250,000 points
2) cat 7 hotel (7 night cert) plus 120,000 AA miles for 270,000 points
We had the other 30K miles already on AA. That equalled the entire 270k miles needed.
The plane tickets are worth approx $28000.00 not including the (2) 7 night stays.
We leave in just 5 weeks. ^^
Jan 6, 2008, 7:59 am
#174
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: TX
Posts: 756
What a great deal...was wondering what I should do with all my points. Since the miles do not need to be used in conjunction with the stay, it is essentially a way to just get a 7-night certificate? We may just want to bank the miles and use the certificate in Hawaii...would that work? Also, is it just AA that the miles can be transferred to?
Jan 6, 2008, 8:27 am
#175
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Silver, MR Plat Prem & LT Plat, Hyatt Plat,SPG Plat, Hertz PC, National EE, UA 1K
Posts: 3,407
What a great deal...was wondering what I should do with all my points. Since the miles do not need to be used in conjunction with the stay, it is essentially a way to just get a 7-night certificate? We may just want to bank the miles and use the certificate in Hawaii...would that work? Also, is it just AA that the miles can be transferred to?
Any airline partner. I have mine credited to CO. I have a gazillion miles in both programs, but seems I like to "dump" them into the ff mile program as its easy to do!
Also, as an elite (all levels, IIRC) they will do "expedited" transfers, getting them to the airline in about 2 days!
This has worked well for about 7 packages so far. ONLY problem is they are NOT LINKING the stay certs to the hotel you have reserved, and THIS WILL be a problem to come. See the post on the HI Hotel Sampler.
Jan 6, 2008, 10:24 am
#176
Join Date: Oct 2002
Programs: Marriott Plat Premier/LT Plat; SPG Plat/LT Gold; Hilton Gold; Hyatt Plat
Posts: 2,356
Why are hotel + air miles such a good deal?
7 nights at cat 5 = 115 pts
7 nights at cat 5 + 120k miles = 235k
so basically 120k marriot pts = 120k miles
7 (additional night at cat 5) = 5 US Flights or 2 Flights to Europe?
If u assume you can get each cat 5 night at $200 is the 120k miles worth $1400?
Though another thought:
7 nights at cat 5 + 120k = 235k
Take 90k and convert the miles to hhonors pts for an aloha award
7 nights at Cat 5, 6 nights in Hawaii Hilton + 30k airlines award for 235k.
7 nights at cat 5 = 115 pts
7 nights at cat 5 + 120k miles = 235k
so basically 120k marriot pts = 120k miles
7 (additional night at cat 5) = 5 US Flights or 2 Flights to Europe?
If u assume you can get each cat 5 night at $200 is the 120k miles worth $1400?
Though another thought:
7 nights at cat 5 + 120k = 235k
Take 90k and convert the miles to hhonors pts for an aloha award
7 nights at Cat 5, 6 nights in Hawaii Hilton + 30k airlines award for 235k.
Jan 6, 2008, 12:39 pm
#177
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,077
The reason they are such a good deal is for the miles exchange rate, which IMO can't be beat. Using the hotel+air package means, as you ahve shown, that you get 1 airline mile for each Marriott Reward point. And since in my case I earn 18 Marriott Reward points per dollar spent at Marriotts, that means I am getting airlines miles at the rate of 18 miles per dollar spent. IMO, a great deal by any measure.
Definitely not at 1.17¢ per point would be a waste of points IMO. Now 7 nights in Paris at a Cat 7 for 150000 which would normally go for $5950 is worth it at 3.97¢ per point.
Right now I am staying at a Cat 6 for 3 weeks for 390000. If I had paid for it, it would have cost $10500. comes out to 2.69¢ per point. So the hotel awards work for me, but I am a bit choosy as to where I use them. But that's just me.
Now if the hotel+air packages don't work for you, then there are always other hotel frequent stay programs you can choose from. Most everybody who does use them sees them as a great value.
Regarding the Hilton exchange thing, why would you stay at Marriotts to get Hilton points? If you wanted Hilton points, then stay at Hiltons. Personally that's not something I would consider as Hiltons don't exist in destinations I frequent.
Right now I am staying at a Cat 6 for 3 weeks for 390000. If I had paid for it, it would have cost $10500. comes out to 2.69¢ per point. So the hotel awards work for me, but I am a bit choosy as to where I use them. But that's just me.
Now if the hotel+air packages don't work for you, then there are always other hotel frequent stay programs you can choose from. Most everybody who does use them sees them as a great value.
Regarding the Hilton exchange thing, why would you stay at Marriotts to get Hilton points? If you wanted Hilton points, then stay at Hiltons. Personally that's not something I would consider as Hiltons don't exist in destinations I frequent.
Jan 6, 2008, 12:41 pm
#178
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Marriott Platinum Premier, AAdvantage Platinum (1MM Lifetime Gold), Avis First
Posts: 524
This is a great deal to exchange MR points for AA miles 1:1 is a steal. I have use this twice and we fly FS for 60K each.
Jan 6, 2008, 1:25 pm
#179
Join Date: Oct 2002
Programs: Marriott Plat Premier/LT Plat; SPG Plat/LT Gold; Hilton Gold; Hyatt Plat
Posts: 2,356
The reason they are such a good deal is for the miles exchange rate, which IMO can't be beat. Using the hotel+air package means, as you ahve shown, that you get 1 airline mile for each Marriott Reward point. And since in my case I earn 18 Marriott Reward points per dollar spent at Marriotts, that means I am getting airlines miles at the rate of 18 miles per dollar spent. IMO, a great deal by any measure.
Definitely not at 1.17¢ per point would be a waste of points IMO. Now 7 nights in Paris at a Cat 7 for 150000 which would normally go for $5950 is worth it at 3.97¢ per point.
Right now I am staying at a Cat 6 for 3 weeks for 390000. If I had paid for it, it would have cost $10500. comes out to 2.69¢ per point. So the hotel awards work for me, but I am a bit choosy as to where I use them. But that's just me.
Now if the hotel+air packages don't work for you, then there are always other hotel frequent stay programs you can choose from. Most everybody who does use them sees them as a great value.
Regarding the Hilton exchange thing, why would you stay at Marriotts to get Hilton points? If you wanted Hilton points, then stay at Hiltons. Personally that's not something I would consider as Hiltons don't exist in destinations I frequent.
Definitely not at 1.17¢ per point would be a waste of points IMO. Now 7 nights in Paris at a Cat 7 for 150000 which would normally go for $5950 is worth it at 3.97¢ per point.
Right now I am staying at a Cat 6 for 3 weeks for 390000. If I had paid for it, it would have cost $10500. comes out to 2.69¢ per point. So the hotel awards work for me, but I am a bit choosy as to where I use them. But that's just me.
Now if the hotel+air packages don't work for you, then there are always other hotel frequent stay programs you can choose from. Most everybody who does use them sees them as a great value.
Regarding the Hilton exchange thing, why would you stay at Marriotts to get Hilton points? If you wanted Hilton points, then stay at Hiltons. Personally that's not something I would consider as Hiltons don't exist in destinations I frequent.
Not saying stay at Marriott to get Hilton pts. However if the air + hotel awards basically are add 1 marriott pt for 1 airline mile then there is a benefit
1. 1 Marriot Pt becomes 1 Airline Mile Becomes 2 Hilton Pts. Using a 175k Aloha 6 night Aloha award u get a 6 night hawaii award for 87.5k Marriott Pts, a savings of 120k pts of a normal Marriott 6 night Hawaii award.
2. Everyone eventually needs to use a Hilton or Starwood when Marriotts are unavailable or perhaps where a friend's wedding is. In this case, you can use those spare pts along with converted pts to get a nice award.
Last edited by welookgood.com; Jan 6, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Jan 6, 2008, 2:35 pm
#180
Join Date: Oct 2002
Programs: Marriott Plat Premier/LT Plat; SPG Plat/LT Gold; Hilton Gold; Hyatt Plat
Posts: 2,356
Not to hijack thread but what happens if u do hotel & air and cancel the hotel due to plan changes. Can you use the cert on something else?
Also can you use a 7 night hotel cert over 8 nights (6 night reward, 1 paid night, final night reward)
Also can you use a 7 night hotel cert over 8 nights (6 night reward, 1 paid night, final night reward)