Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Jul 18, 2014, 9:54 am
#1306
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 33
Yes, but you get 15 nights credit for getting the card (and annually after that). So, starting from 0 nights and never actually staying at a Marriott, I think you can do it in one year for a maximum of $2,205,000, if that helps!
Jul 18, 2014, 10:05 am
#1307
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
Jul 18, 2014, 11:23 am
#1308
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,285
Without the credit card:
- Suppose you average 52 nights/year of paid MR stays.
- Your average cost/night is $150.
- Your base earning of points is 78,000 per year.
- But because you are Gold you get a 25% bonus, so your total is 97,500 per year.
- Add in another 20,000/year for arrival gifts and various bonuses
- After 10 years you have 1,175,000 points and 520 nights.
- This isn't even enough for LT Gold!
Now, with the credit card:
- Every year you earn 15 elite nights just for renewing the credit card.
- You also earn one night for every $3,000 spent.
- Suppose in addition to the $7,800 you spend on MR nights you also put another $20,000/year in spend on the card.
- This is worth 9 extra nights, bringing you to 76 (52+15+9) per year
- Now you are Platinum. Among other benefits your points bonus increases to 50%.
- Now your base points of 78,000 from stays become 117,000/year.
- And from the credit card you earn 7800*5 + 20000 = 59,000/year.
- Plus the 20,000/year misc as above.
- After 10 years, you've earned 1,960,000 points and 760 nights.
- This is virtually enough for LT Platinum!
Jul 18, 2014, 9:20 pm
#1309
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
Programs: DL DM 2MM, MR LTT, Hilton D, Hertz PC. National Emerald Exec, UA Silver(thanks to Marriott)
Posts: 2,026
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status
the idea as ludicrous as it is they are trying to suggest is if you spent 2.2 M on the card you would get 750 nights at 3K a night and enough points as well to get LT Plat without staying a single night at a hotel
Jul 19, 2014, 3:15 am
#1310
Join Date: May 2011
Location: ORD
Programs: AA LTG, Marriott LTP. 50% Delta LTS, Working on Hyatt LTD
Posts: 676
Here's a quick pencil of how you might do it in 10 years, using the CC in combination with staying at MR:
Without the credit card:
- Suppose you average 52 nights/year of paid MR stays.
- Your average cost/night is $150.
- Your base earning of points is 78,000 per year.
- But because you are Gold you get a 25% bonus, so your total is 97,500 per year.
- Add in another 20,000/year for arrival gifts and various bonuses
- After 10 years you have 1,175,000 points and 520 nights.
- This isn't even enough for LT Gold!
Now, with the credit card:
- Every year you earn 15 elite nights just for renewing the credit card.
- You also earn one night for every $3,000 spent.
- Suppose in addition to the $7,800 you spend on MR nights you also put another $20,000/year in spend on the card.
- This is worth 9 extra nights, bringing you to 76 (52+15+9) per year
- Now you are Platinum. Among other benefits your points bonus increases to 50%.
- Now your base points of 78,000 from stays become 117,000/year.
- And from the credit card you earn 7800*5 + 20000 = 59,000/year.
- Plus the 20,000/year misc as above.
- After 10 years, you've earned 1,960,000 points and 760 nights.
- This is virtually enough for LT Platinum!
Without the credit card:
- Suppose you average 52 nights/year of paid MR stays.
- Your average cost/night is $150.
- Your base earning of points is 78,000 per year.
- But because you are Gold you get a 25% bonus, so your total is 97,500 per year.
- Add in another 20,000/year for arrival gifts and various bonuses
- After 10 years you have 1,175,000 points and 520 nights.
- This isn't even enough for LT Gold!
Now, with the credit card:
- Every year you earn 15 elite nights just for renewing the credit card.
- You also earn one night for every $3,000 spent.
- Suppose in addition to the $7,800 you spend on MR nights you also put another $20,000/year in spend on the card.
- This is worth 9 extra nights, bringing you to 76 (52+15+9) per year
- Now you are Platinum. Among other benefits your points bonus increases to 50%.
- Now your base points of 78,000 from stays become 117,000/year.
- And from the credit card you earn 7800*5 + 20000 = 59,000/year.
- Plus the 20,000/year misc as above.
- After 10 years, you've earned 1,960,000 points and 760 nights.
- This is virtually enough for LT Platinum!
I signed up brand new just over 3 years ago and I'm gold already. I spent about $320k on the card (about half was OPM and about 10% was marriott spend) and stayed around 180 actual nights in bed. Cancelled the card because the benefit of lifetime plat vs lifetime gold is a bottle of wine and a cheese plate at check-in (don't need the points anymore).
Jul 19, 2014, 3:18 am
#1311
Join Date: May 2011
Location: ORD
Programs: AA LTG, Marriott LTP. 50% Delta LTS, Working on Hyatt LTD
Posts: 676
You would only need to spend half that much to accomplish it in 1 year. Unless you started Jan 1 and had to get it before Dec 31, you would pass through a roll over which would effective double your nights for lifetime status purposes.
Jul 19, 2014, 10:42 am
#1312
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
What is this "rollover" thing you talk about? I am intrigued.
Jul 19, 2014, 11:00 am
#1313
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
BTW, please excuse my thinking out loud. Let's consider the opportunity cost of buying Marriott Platinum for $2,205,000.
Scenario #1 - Spend $2,205,000 on Marriott CC
2,205,000 Marriott points x $0.0088/pt = $19,404
+
Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Scenario #2 - Spend $2,205,000 on SPG CC
2,205,000 SPG points x $0.021/pt = $46,305
Marriott Lifetime Platinum would cost $26,901 in Scenarion #2
Scenario #3 - Apply for 24 CC's over 1 year and the rest on SPG CC
Assume each new CC requires $5,000 spend to earn 50,000 pts, we will average these points low at $0.01/pt to account for some CC offers less than 50,000
24 x 50,000pt = 1,200,000 pt * $0.01/pt = $12,000
(2,205,000 - 24*5,000) = 2,193,000 * $0.021/pt = $46,053
Total value = $12,000 + $46,053 = $58,053
Marriott Lifetime would cost $38,649 in Option #3
So it seems that going for Marriott Lifetime Platinum via CC spend over 1 year would cost between $26,901 and $38,649. Let's say $30,000 to keep with round numbers.
The question to ask now is it worth $30,000?
Scenario #1 - Spend $2,205,000 on Marriott CC
2,205,000 Marriott points x $0.0088/pt = $19,404
+
Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Scenario #2 - Spend $2,205,000 on SPG CC
2,205,000 SPG points x $0.021/pt = $46,305
Marriott Lifetime Platinum would cost $26,901 in Scenarion #2
Scenario #3 - Apply for 24 CC's over 1 year and the rest on SPG CC
Assume each new CC requires $5,000 spend to earn 50,000 pts, we will average these points low at $0.01/pt to account for some CC offers less than 50,000
24 x 50,000pt = 1,200,000 pt * $0.01/pt = $12,000
(2,205,000 - 24*5,000) = 2,193,000 * $0.021/pt = $46,053
Total value = $12,000 + $46,053 = $58,053
Marriott Lifetime would cost $38,649 in Option #3
So it seems that going for Marriott Lifetime Platinum via CC spend over 1 year would cost between $26,901 and $38,649. Let's say $30,000 to keep with round numbers.
The question to ask now is it worth $30,000?
Jul 19, 2014, 12:04 pm
#1314
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
Rollover is part of normal Marriott status earning (not just lifetime status). It means that any extra nights you have over your current status (minus any rollover nights from the previous year, if any) get added to your next year's night count.
So, for example, if you start from scratch (and, for simplicity of this example, if don't have the credit card) at 0 nights, and do 55 paid nights, you'll be Gold (at 50 nights), and the next year you start from 5 (rollover) nights already earned (as 55 - 50 = 5), rather than from 0 again.
So, for example, if you start from scratch (and, for simplicity of this example, if don't have the credit card) at 0 nights, and do 55 paid nights, you'll be Gold (at 50 nights), and the next year you start from 5 (rollover) nights already earned (as 55 - 50 = 5), rather than from 0 again.
Jul 19, 2014, 12:09 pm
#1315
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
I fail to see how you can apply for 24 CC's in 1 year that all earn Marriott points. Most CCs don't earn Marriott points. There's a Marriott card or two, several Ultimate Rewards cards. But those are all from Chase, meaning you can't repeat for a couple years.
And how in the world do you turn SPG points into Marriott points???
(You can't transfer points from one hotel program to another, except in a few cases with extreme loss of value by going through an airline program or a rail program as in intermediary.)
And how in the world do you turn SPG points into Marriott points???
(You can't transfer points from one hotel program to another, except in a few cases with extreme loss of value by going through an airline program or a rail program as in intermediary.)
Jul 19, 2014, 12:18 pm
#1316
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
Jul 19, 2014, 12:22 pm
#1317
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
I choose the first scenario to put all money on the Marriott card which nets a certain value of Marriott points plus lifetime status.
As an alternative choice, let's look at Scenario #2 and forget about Lifetime Marriott. How much value can I get out of ~$2,2million spend if I don't care about lifetime status. First choice is put it all on an SPG card, which points are generally valued around $0.021. An even better option, is to not just put that spend on the SPG card, but during the year to also apply for various cards across various programs that will also produce value in their sign-up bonuses. I created an estimation of what is the upper limit of cards that could be applied for and an estimate of the sign-up value of each card.
Does that make it clearer?
Jul 19, 2014, 12:52 pm
#1318
Join Date: May 2011
Location: ORD
Programs: AA LTG, Marriott LTP. 50% Delta LTS, Working on Hyatt LTD
Posts: 676
Not counting the 15 nights you would also get for the card and the 75 nights. it's actually lower than 450 nights, and you really don't need platinum, just gold. So the actual spend needed is something in the $600k range.
Is it worth it? Platinum probably not, but gold would be if you spend ~xxx (probably less than 200) nights in a marriott during your lifetime with your family and they eat breakfast or drink soft drinks (free from lounge) that's otherwise $20 per person per day then you'd save more than you lost doing signups or a 2% cash back card.
That said, I got it from stays and $300k spend; not $1M or anything.
Jul 19, 2014, 1:07 pm
#1319
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: PEK
Programs: SPG Plat, A3 *A Gold, HH Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
2tall4economy, I'm still not following you. The 375 roll over nights have already been counted once in the first year, why would they be counted twice when they roll over??
Jul 19, 2014, 2:40 pm
#1320
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: All roads lead to ATL
Posts: 124
Rollover nights do not count toward Lifetime status.