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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 1:48 pm
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    Originally Posted by voodoomonkey
    Loaded x3 at Mission Valley cust. service this morning. She was confused why it wasn't working, so I told her "I've heard it needs 'K8' if that means anything to you." She said it sure does, did her thing on her side of the register and everything went smoothly.
    At what point does the CSR need to press K8?
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 1:56 pm
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    Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
    At what point does the CSR need to press K8?
    Somewhere at/near the very beginning. Whatever was screwing things up was happening well before any entering of amounts or swiping of the debit card.
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 3:56 pm
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    Originally Posted by joecool1885
    All the more reason I'm kicking myself for not purchasing one of the electronic CCs (coin, stratos, plastc). (Preordered Coin at $50 and cancelled when they kept delaying). Questioning whether a $100 purchase would be worth it to keep MSing in case card with name on it becomes an across the board policy.
    I purchased the Plastc because of the chip. I figured I made enough from buying $2000 Amex GCs with cashback that this will make life much easier. I'm looking forward to getting it. (I'd post a link for $20 off but I believe that's against FT forum policy.) I'll actually be able to cut down on the number of cards in my wallet at that point. Joy!
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:09 pm
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    Originally Posted by februaryfour
    I purchased the Plastc because of the chip. I figured I made enough from buying $2000 Amex GCs with cashback that this will make life much easier. I'm looking forward to getting it. (I'd post a link for $20 off but I believe that's against FT forum policy.) I'll actually be able to cut down on the number of cards in my wallet at that point. Joy!
    Just a question.. Does target accept Apple Pay or any of the swipe proximity pay apps? It seems like that would be an easier way around the Coin/Plastc/etc...
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:20 pm
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    Originally Posted by Chelski
    Just a question.. Does target accept Apple Pay or any of the swipe proximity pay apps? It seems like that would be an easier way around the Coin/Plastc/etc...
    Dang. If we could load GC w/ PIN on apple pay and do it that way, I would be insane happy. Looks like Target won't work on apply pay until after Oct when chip/pin technology is instituted. News reports.
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:39 pm
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    Originally Posted by anime333
    That message has always been there. I think it meant/means that no "Target" gift card could be used; it isn't referring to prepaid Visa/MC debit gift cards.
    Thanks for confirming. Sorry for the false alarm.
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 6:17 pm
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    Originally Posted by Chelski
    Just a question.. Does target accept Apple Pay or any of the swipe proximity pay apps? It seems like that would be an easier way around the Coin/Plastc/etc...
    I've never tried to pay at Target with Apple Pay (I'd rather not have a layer between my credit card and my MS that doesn't actually do anything for me; Amex gives me cashback, GCs let me liquidate... Apple Pay doesn't do anything for me that directly swiping my card at the POS terminal wouldn't.) Good luck!
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 6:37 pm
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    Originally Posted by februaryfour
    I purchased the Plastc because of the chip. I figured I made enough from buying $2000 Amex GCs with cashback that this will make life much easier. I'm looking forward to getting it. (I'd post a link for $20 off but I believe that's against FT forum policy.) I'll actually be able to cut down on the number of cards in my wallet at that point. Joy!
    I'll have to research Plastc a little more... I like that it has Chip tech on it, and it'll ship summer instead of winter (like Coin)---- but how does the display work? I'm wondering if it will really be a workaround... without the name engraved on the card, are we certain they'll take it? Also, when accessing a GC on Plastc, will it show Gift Card or can it be customized to show your name associated with the GC?
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    Old Jun 28, 2015, 6:49 pm
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    Originally Posted by joecool1885
    I'll have to research Plastc a little more... I like that it has Chip tech on it, and it'll ship summer instead of winter (like Coin)---- but how does the display work? I'm wondering if it will really be a workaround... without the name engraved on the card, are we certain they'll take it? Also, when accessing a GC on Plastc, will it show Gift Card or can it be customized to show your name associated with the GC?
    All good questions. I'm looking forward to finding out the answer, but in the meantime, Plastc will let me cut down the 20 cards in my wallet to just 3. One credit card (the ONE card everything goes on in the end), one debit card (in case Plastc doesn't work with whatever ATM I want to use), and the Plastc with everything else (including the multitude of gift cards and loyalty cards. Even if all Plastc does is allow me to consolidate the "other" cards, that's all I need it to do. If it's a dud, it's only $135 (I'm including the $20 discount) and I've made more than that through MS anyway.
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 7:08 am
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    Originally Posted by februaryfour
    I've never tried to pay at Target with Apple Pay (I'd rather not have a layer between my credit card and my MS that doesn't actually do anything for me; Amex gives me cashback, GCs let me liquidate... Apple Pay doesn't do anything for me that directly swiping my card at the POS terminal wouldn't.) Good luck!
    I hate to use a layer but to make it easier to liquidate GCs then it's worthwhile. When you pay with Apple pay or other ones you load multiple cards and select the one you want to use. You still earn cash back when you select Amex as your payment method or miles with an airline card or 5% back at office stores.
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 11:31 am
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    If anyone has any info on successes in Queens/LI, NY please PM.

    I went to one On Saturday and they(manager) said no third-party debit cards so I left. They wanted to check that ID matched the name on the card. Trying to find another location ASAP to unload.
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 11:32 am
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    Originally Posted by nas6034
    If anyone has any info on successes in Queens/LI, NY please PM.

    I went to one On Saturday and they(manager) said no third-party debit cards so I left. They wanted to check that ID matched the name on the card. Trying to find another location ASAP to unload.
    Do you know if this store considers personal debit cards acceptable forms of payment? I want to know their definition of third party - whether it is "prepaid gift card" or what?
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 11:57 am
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    Originally Posted by macrophage
    Do you know if this store considers personal debit cards acceptable forms of payment? I want to know their definition of third party - whether it is "prepaid gift card" or what?
    From their wording they stated it has to be bank-issued with your name. It wasn't worth arguing that this is bank-issued. In addition they wanted the debit to have a name on it.
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 12:04 pm
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    Originally Posted by nas6034
    From their wording they stated it has to be bank-issued with your name. It wasn't worth arguing that this is bank-issued. In addition they wanted the debit to have a name on it.
    Oh, yeah I see.

    Hard to get prepaid non-amex with your name on it... sigh.
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    Old Jun 29, 2015, 12:08 pm
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    Originally Posted by nas6034
    From their wording they stated it has to be bank-issued with your name. It wasn't worth arguing that this is bank-issued. In addition they wanted the debit to have a name on it.

    That is not the corporate policy. The email sent by corporate does not say bank-issued or name required on the card. People should report this rogue manager to corporate HQ.
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