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hmmurdock May 10, 2014 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by mistressjaime (Post 22834602)
If you can use WM billpay to pay "best buy chase" for some chase cards, would evolve work for that too? Anyone try this?

Give it a shot and let us know if it works. But just as a data point the BBY card on evolve pays citi.

sam_goh May 10, 2014 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by raccah (Post 22837285)
WOW! Really! We have been paying like crazy (almost done with my mortgage) - and chase/JPMC automagically pays the bill and uses the rest of the payment for principal! Without ANYTHING from me we are already paid out till August

I had a chat with a supervisor level Chase mortgage person when I first started using evolve. Apparently there are different T&Cs on mortgages and Chase's system is kind of screwy on handling them.

Let's say my mortgage was $1K and I paid $1.8K the same day, it would get credited $1K P&I and $800 to P. If I did $2K same day, it would get credited as 2 payments. If I did $1.8K and then $200 the next, it would be 1 payment, and $800 and $200 towards principal.

Apparently as others have noted, if all your payments arrive on the same day and exceed your monthly payment, you'll get a payment + principal reduction on the difference.

What is not apparent is, that it's only to a point because some mortgages (like mine) allow pre-payments. Say you're going out of town, you can send in two payments and it will pay this month and the next. So that's why I got credited 2 payments worth instead of principal reduction on the middle scenario. My mortgage allows for up to 3 prepayments a month.

So anyways, took a long time to figure that out with the multitude of $100 and $200 payments I was doing on a much larger mortgage :)

worldtravels May 11, 2014 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by hmmurdock (Post 22844684)
Give it a shot and let us know if it works. But just as a data point the BBY card on evolve pays citi.

Pays which citicard? Any citi credit card?

Alcibiades May 11, 2014 7:28 pm

CITIBANK issues the BestBuy credit card

worldtravels May 11, 2014 9:15 pm

I understand, does that mean I can pay any citicard using Evolve?

Namaste1 May 11, 2014 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by worldtravels (Post 22848923)
I understand, does that mean I can pay any citicard using Evolve?

I tried paying my citi AA mastercard but it didn't work :(

worldtravels May 11, 2014 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by Namaste1 (Post 22848985)
I tried paying my citi AA mastercard but it didn't work :(

Yes, I would like to pay mine too.

1stTimeFlyer May 12, 2014 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by sam_goh (Post 22844860)
I had a chat with a supervisor level Chase mortgage person when I first started using evolve. Apparently there are different T&Cs on mortgages and Chase's system is kind of screwy on handling them.

Let's say my mortgage was $1K and I paid $1.8K the same day, it would get credited $1K P&I and $800 to P. If I did $2K same day, it would get credited as 2 payments. If I did $1.8K and then $200 the next, it would be 1 payment, and $800 and $200 towards principal.

Apparently as others have noted, if all your payments arrive on the same day and exceed your monthly payment, you'll get a payment + principal reduction on the difference.

What is not apparent is, that it's only to a point because some mortgages (like mine) allow pre-payments. Say you're going out of town, you can send in two payments and it will pay this month and the next. So that's why I got credited 2 payments worth instead of principal reduction on the middle scenario. My mortgage allows for up to 3 prepayments a month.

So anyways, took a long time to figure that out with the multitude of $100 and $200 payments I was doing on a much larger mortgage :)

Thanks for the info, Sam! So a question for Sam and anyone else in the know: I have a monthly mortgage of $1.8K. If I want to pay my Chase mortgage using Evolve does that mean I need to open up two accounts? Otherwise I would be making the payment in two days, would they be applying the 2nd day's payment to principal as opposed to P&I? I'd prefer to just have one Evolve account but will obv open the 2nd if that's the only way to make this work. Thanks all!

tuppy May 12, 2014 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer (Post 22851821)
Thanks for the info, Sam! So a question for Sam and anyone else in the know: I have a monthly mortgage of $1.8K. If I want to pay my Chase mortgage using Evolve does that mean I need to open up two accounts? Otherwise I would be making the payment in two days, would they be applying the 2nd day's payment to principal as opposed to P&I? I'd prefer to just have one Evolve account but will obv open the 2nd if that's the only way to make this work. Thanks all!

Not sure exactly how to make it work but DO NOT open 2 accounts. They are actively looking for people trying to get around the 1k daily limit.

learning2fly May 12, 2014 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer (Post 22851821)
Thanks for the info, Sam! So a question for Sam and anyone else in the know: I have a monthly mortgage of $1.8K. If I want to pay my Chase mortgage using Evolve does that mean I need to open up two accounts? Otherwise I would be making the payment in two days, would they be applying the 2nd day's payment to principal as opposed to P&I? I'd prefer to just have one Evolve account but will obv open the 2nd if that's the only way to make this work. Thanks all!

I think someone said a couple of pages back that they did their supra-$1k payments over the weekend, and they were processed on Monday as one payment so maybe you could try sending half your payments on Saturday and half on Sunday.

chronik May 12, 2014 3:39 pm

If I contribute to my NY State 529 College Savings Plan - will I still receive the state tax benefits by contributing using staples VISA GCs?

Credit Card -> Staples $200 Visa GC -> 529

Does that still work for allowable contributions for tax purposes? The deduction is quite significant, but would hate to explain to NY how the contributions are coming in via GC.

concordian May 12, 2014 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer (Post 22851821)
Thanks for the info, Sam! So a question for Sam and anyone else in the know: I have a monthly mortgage of $1.8K. If I want to pay my Chase mortgage using Evolve does that mean I need to open up two accounts? Otherwise I would be making the payment in two days, would they be applying the 2nd day's payment to principal as opposed to P&I? I'd prefer to just have one Evolve account but will obv open the 2nd if that's the only way to make this work. Thanks all!

Why don't use your DW or someone in your household for second account. at hats how I pay my mortgage of 2000$.

sam_goh May 12, 2014 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer (Post 22851821)
Thanks for the info, Sam! So a question for Sam and anyone else in the know: I have a monthly mortgage of $1.8K. If I want to pay my Chase mortgage using Evolve does that mean I need to open up two accounts? Otherwise I would be making the payment in two days, would they be applying the 2nd day's payment to principal as opposed to P&I? I'd prefer to just have one Evolve account but will obv open the 2nd if that's the only way to make this work. Thanks all!

You will need more than one evolve account. I setup one for myself and spouse. Haven't been active in watching what's shut down or not, but I know there are others that have opened multiple accounts for themselves.

Just be sure to realize that the velocity limit (e.g. 1 payment every 5-6 mins) applies across accounts from the same IP. So you can't pay yours then your wife's immediately after.

There is a workaround. If I need to do things in a hurry, I'll have one account open on my computer, then VPN into work and use my wife's account in a VMWare window. Thus one can have parallel transactions going.

tigermark82 May 12, 2014 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by tnite (Post 22818551)
My loan initially was serviced by Franklin American Mortgage and has been transferred to CENLAR starting May .
I will send out the payment and let you know if it worked.

I got the same letter last month. I made my payment to CENLAR from my checking account last month and it went through. Interestingly enough this month I got a statement from Franklin. I just submitted my first EVOLVE payment to CENLAR tonight. Everything appears to working.

fishmonger6 May 13, 2014 12:55 pm

tigermark - were you able to do payment to Franklin/CENLAR for over $1,000? Did it apply correctly? TIA!


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